https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-d...removed-russian-sexual-assault-claims-1711680
hmm and how many here bought every word hook line and sinker.
hmm and how many here bought every word hook line and sinker.
Ukrainian official fired over questionable Russian rape claims.
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The Russians have a history of brutally and rape, I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of Ukraine women will come forward in the futurehttps://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-d...removed-russian-sexual-assault-claims-1711680
hmm and how many here bought every word hook line and sinker.
And yet....https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-d...removed-russian-sexual-assault-claims-1711680
hmm and how many here bought every word hook line and sinker.
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Ukraine Says It Intercepted Audio of Wife Telling Russian Soldier, 'Go There, Rape … Women': Report
“I allow it. Just wear protection,” a woman allegedly tells her husband in the call
Yeah a Russian woman is gonna tell her hubby to go rape other women. And you believe that LMAO.And yet....
Ukraine Says It Intercepted Audio of Wife Telling Russian Soldier, 'Go There, Rape … Women': Report
“I allow it. Just wear protection,” a woman allegedly tells her husband in the callpeople.com
Oh yeah I guess the Germans were all warm and cuddly, USA raped quite a few Euros during WWII. And in Korea, Vietnam Iraq you name it.
What a fucking stupid, ignorant attempt at an argument.
Notty equivocates his claims that German and American soldiers raping justify your claims not to believe that reports that the fucking Russian pigs are raping civillians are not to believed. We are not discussing WW2 or the shameful wars inVietnam,Korea and Irag.
To dismiss any claims of rape out of hand is despicable to civilized people.. Especially in 2022.
It sickens me to know the world still has people with these attitudes.
I guess he did not dismiss it. He just said it happened, happens and will happen in any war between any nations. Human nature. Humans are the most horrible animals, be it US or Russian soldiers although I appreciate overall more efficient controls and legal system in the US which I guess keeps most would-be rapists at bay unlike in Russia...
Rape occurs in peace time, in Canada, and it happens in every war. There is nothing different about this war then any war in the last 20 years. So to make it seem as though Russians are doing something different is an attempt to absolve our country and allies of their crimes and whitewash history.
Yes that is my point. But you have to remember that there was a RARE conviction of a special forces officer for war crimes and the president pardoned him. US tortured hundreds and only a handful of flunkies were charged while Bush, who authorized it, was not even questioned. It was sanctioned at the highest levels of the whitehouse and no one was held accountable. Its probably true that if a white woman gets raped by a black guy he will be held accountable, but a black woman by whites? Depends on which state.
He dismissed it by minimizing it and saying everyone does it.
Bullshit.
Its wrong when anyone does it and if he won't call it out then he's supporting it.
You guys are pretending it does not happen. It not happening on any sort of systemic scale. It happens in peacetime as well. What I object to, is the usual old propaganda BS to try and vilify Russian people as some sort of inferior race that act in this way, while ignoring the fact that NATO and the USA have sent men to places to kill and rape happened, and was not dealt with severely if at all.
Judge: You may speak in your own defense
Nottboi: I did rape that woman but so long as Bill Cosby is not in jail then I should not be in jail otherwise it is racism
Nottboi: I did rape that woman but so long as Bill Cosby is not in jail then I should not be in jail otherwise it is racism
Actually that is how courts work, if the circumstances were identical, that would be the case. In fact Cosby had his conviction quashed because he did not receive due process that others did. You are so clueless you actually reinforced my point unwittingly. lol.
That means you have to call it out everywhere, not excuse it when the Russians you love do it.
If you are against rape call out Putin's boys as well as Americans.
Don't excuse anyone.
Why not?
Russian state-controlled media been stirring up hate against Ukrainians for a decade. It's endemic and intense. Go look at the thread I did on Putin's propaganda.
There are certainly rapes whenever men with guns are sent to a country. But American troops never stole toilets from the Iraqis.
I guess he did not excuse Russian rapists but said that rape and brutality are not only in Russia so Russians as a whole should not be stigmatized. Likewise we may stigmatize all muslims as terrorists. I would admit however that in dictatorships, the majority of people have lower internal barriers to brutality since otherwise dictatorship would not be possible if there were not that vast power pyramid of brutal people at all hierarchy levels supporting the dictator. In China, Iran, Saudi Arabia or North Korea we should expect still more brutality and rapists.
It's just how world civilizations happen to evolve... Interestingly, the British waged brutal wars on all continents for centuries and created the biggest empire in the world but somehow all former parts of this empire managed to evolve into societies with high barriers to brutality and (coincidentally or not?) highest intellectual and monetary capitals nowadays (US, Canada, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa) but Russian empire could not...
Overall the toughest problem with any dictatorship (aka brutal nation) is breaking the vicious circle of poverty->poor education -> brutality -> dictatorship -> poverty. Ukraine is an example of a very harsh and lengthy process of breaking this vicious circle. France went thru this process for more than a century from the first French revolution in 1789, lots of wars, brutality and other revolutions till the present republic.
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That just makes it more important to call it out whenever it happens.
Not excuse it.
I have not see any stats or hard data to support the facts that rape has been conducted by Russian troops, only that it likely has. In this climate of massive propaganda I am not willing to call out or condemn anything without a solid factual basis. Where was anyone calling out the rapes of civilians by US and NATO troops? The media did not even give voice to victims. So all we are seeing now is racist propaganda and I refuse to support this.
