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silentkisser

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he came through when it matters

he got the US on track to be vaccinated in record time.

look at how bad Canada is doing. We would be in 100x better shape with Trump rather than the drama teacher.
Trump did NOTHING when it came to vaccinations. The Biden administration basically said they came into work on the 20th and found nothing planned. Hell, even the development of the vaccine had little US input. Trump made COVID political, which likely made the death toll worse than it should have been.

Trudeau is far from perfect, and I don't really know (sadly) if his vaccine rollout plan will work. I'm praying it does.

But really, Trump is the worst. He will be marked as the worst president for a number of reasons. He was on track to be one of the worst until the Big Lie and the insurrection. He will not be fondly remembered (unless the GOP successfully stages a MAGA takeover of the government and kills democracy). Hell, even then they'd probably turn on his memory....
 

jcpro

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Trump did NOTHING when it came to vaccinations. The Biden administration basically said they came into work on the 20th and found nothing planned. Hell, even the development of the vaccine had little US input. Trump made COVID political, which likely made the death toll worse than it should have been.

Trudeau is far from perfect, and I don't really know (sadly) if his vaccine rollout plan will work. I'm praying it does.

But really, Trump is the worst. He will be marked as the worst president for a number of reasons. He was on track to be one of the worst until the Big Lie and the insurrection. He will not be fondly remembered (unless the GOP successfully stages a MAGA takeover of the government and kills democracy). Hell, even then they'd probably turn on his memory....
ROTFLMFAO!!
 

Valcazar

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Nah. The GOP loves their token black people and token women, but actually VOTE for one to run things? Not gonna happen.

He helped speed up the development of the vaccines and he deserves credit for that. He did virtually nothing about getting those vaccines into peoples arms.
Operation Warp Speed did help. Some research got funded and the promise of "if you deliver, we will buy in bulk" was an incentive for pharma companies to put more resources into it because it had a guaranteed payout if they succeeded. That the distribution part was a shit show is a mark against it. But that the US had the money to dangle a big prize and did so helped speed the development process along. Credit for that is fair.
 

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He helped speed up the development of the vaccines and he deserves credit for that. He did virtually nothing about getting those vaccines into peoples arms.
Really? Aside from the catchy "operation warp speed" designation, Trump's people contributed nothing. On the contrary, Trump attacked science time and again and de-funded WHO. He deliberately disregarded earlier warnings about Covid 19 than anyone else in the country had. He was willing to put many people at great risk to increase his prospects politically.

As far as the actual vaccine roll-out, he was to busy staging super spreader events and political theater....
 
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jcpro

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He helped speed up the development of the vaccines and he deserves credit for that. He did virtually nothing about getting those vaccines into peoples arms.
He helped speed up the development of the vaccines and he deserves credit for that. He did virtually nothing about getting those vaccines into peoples arms.
He helped speed up the development of the vaccines and he deserves credit for that. He did virtually nothing about getting those vaccines into peoples arms.
Another fucking lie. Since the roll out on Dec. 14. 57 million Americans received the vaccine. When Biden came into office one million per day were receiving it including Lyin' Joe.

“Just over four weeks ago, America had no real plan to vaccinate most of the country. My predecessor, as my mother would say, ‘failed to order enough vaccines,’ failed to mobilize the effort to administer the shots… That changed the moment we took office.” Joe Biden yesterday doing what Biden does best- making shit up.
 

jarhead

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He and his admin were Horrible! No buts and excuses.

His one major claim is the stock market which is not really a gov't policy. Plus if that took a downward turn, there were very little options left.
 

kherg007

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He and his admin were Horrible! No buts and excuses.

His one major claim is the stock market which is not really a gov't policy. Plus if that took a downward turn, there were very little options left.
Keep in mind he inherited a rising stock market. Look at the data below. Where is the Trump bump?
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toguy5252

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Another fucking lie. Since the roll out on Dec. 14. 57 million Americans received the vaccine. When Biden came into office one million per day were receiving it including Lyin' Joe.

“Just over four weeks ago, America had no real plan to vaccinate most of the country. My predecessor, as my mother would say, ‘failed to order enough vaccines,’ failed to mobilize the effort to administer the shots… That changed the moment we took office.” Joe Biden yesterday doing what Biden does best- making shit up.
Try dealing with objective facts and and reality. Since Biden came in the number of doses administered daily has almost doubled. The former sorest loser in history left logistics to the states and declared victory when the vaccines were approved as opposed to in peoples arms.
 
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jcpro

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Try dealing with objective facts and and reality. Since Biden came in the number of doses administered daily has almost doubled. The former sorest loser in history left logistics to the states and declared victory when the vaccines were approved as opposed to in peoples arms.
Wrong again. It went from about 1 million to about 1.5 million per day. And, besides, that's not what Joe said. I got it(how could have been so stupid?!). Joe was talking about Justin who neither developed nor procured vaccines for his people. So, how will the "fact checkers" at the Washington Post score that one; true, mostly true, mostly false or bullshit?
 

toguy5252

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Wrong again. It went from about 1 million to about 1.5 million per day. And, besides, that's not what Joe said. I got it(how could have been so stupid?!). Joe was talking about Justin who neither developed nor procured vaccines for his people. So, how will the "fact checkers" at the Washington Post score that one; true, mostly true, mostly false or bullshit?

LOL. The now former cry-baby in chief promised 20 million people would be vaccinated by the end of the year. That turned out to be @ 10M. It then turned out his administration was lying about supplies and distribution.

Biden will easily pass hi 100M in first 100 days and his program is approaching 1.7 M per day.

Try dealing with objective facts and not alternative facts. No idea why you are bringing Justin into this other than to distract from failings of the now former sorest loser in history.
 
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nottyboi

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Wrong again. It went from about 1 million to about 1.5 million per day. And, besides, that's not what Joe said. I got it(how could have been so stupid?!). Joe was talking about Justin who neither developed nor procured vaccines for his people. So, how will the "fact checkers" at the Washington Post score that one; true, mostly true, mostly false or bullshit?
So the PM is supposed to do what? Go to lab and develop a vaccine lol. The feds have ordered a lot of vaccine.
 
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Bagilson

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To be fair, he was what he is - a tacky New York Real Estate conman with serious mental issues.

Just like Uncle Obama was what he is - an empty suit who sold out, and whose only distinguishing feature the color of his skin.

And Sleepy Joe is what he will be - Hunter’s dad, the big guy who needs his cut.

And Kamal Harris is who she will be - an empty suit who sold out, whose only distinguishing feature is her gender and the color of her skin, and who will probably lose to Trump in 2024.
Bang on.
 

jcpro

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LOL. The now former cry-baby in chief promised 20 million people would be vaccinated by the end of the year. That turned out to be @ 10M. It then turned out his administration was lying about supplies and distribution.

Biden will easily pass hi 100M in first 100 days and his program is approaching 1.7 M per day.

Try dealing with objective facts and not alternative facts. No idea why you are bringing Justin into this other than to distract from failings of the now former sorest loser in history.
The objective fact is that Joe"s a bullshitter.
 
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