USSC strikes down Roe v Wade
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If PP wins leadership and then beats Justin in about 3.5 years then yes, there will be a good chance it will commence here too.
You're 100% correct, Czar. And that's why Canada will never decriminalize abortion or legislate other commie ideas like universal health care or state-subsidized higher education - because the oppressed people of Canada would rise up and overthrow the Tie-runts.
As the Dems have done sweet shit all since Clinton got in, and in fact continue to fight against progressive candidates in primaries. The present progressive block is too small to have a real effect. They also need to be independent to matter.
I call bullshit to the notion a third party can't work. In fact with the "Maverick" nature that already exists of some sitting politicians, and the wins of Bernie Sanders a concerted effort could imo bring in independent candidates in several districts.
Crowd funding could get them the money they need. They just need charismatic candidates.
But please enlighten us. How will electing a few more Senators change this ruling? Without killing the filibuster.
So let's do it this way, Grunwald Jr.
Go through the "purple" swing states in the 2020 election and - 1 by 1 - give me the % that the Dems won by. Now for each thereof, give me the estimated % that a far left 3rd party would split the vote in those swing states. Because you're not trying to win an election of hipster barrista-graphic novelist-political radicals in Brooklyn. You're trying to win an election of middle-aged housewives and grocery store clerks in Madison, WI and Grand Rapids, MI.
We done now? Do we have to go through this shit again?
Thanks. Was just curious why a woman would choose to have an abortion. Was hoping to move beyond the rhetoric of "her body, her choice".
I know in one culture, a fetus is aborted because it is the "wrong" gender. (Maybe this is no longer the case?)
In one survey a major reason cited was insufficient financial resources.
Why do women choose to have an abortion? (cabbagetownwomensclinic.com)
Reasons Women Get Abortions [Recently Updated] (hli.org)
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The question is really quite silly. The idea that asking an audience of what i expect to be for the most part middle aged male pervs to try and answer for women is silly.
Isn't the real point that if something is a right then the reasons for exercising that right are personal to the decision maker. The decision to abort or carry a fetus to term is deeply personal and emotional and I cannot imagine a more difficult decision.
??? Ask the girl. Each one will have their own reason. Its not a one size fits all.
Why do you care anyways? Being a guy you have ZERO input into her decision.
The point is exactly that it must be a right.
It is misguided when people use the most terrible examples to argue for the right to abortion: "If a 12 year old is raped and has to carry the fetus"
It must be a right for a women to terminate a pregnancy, maybe with restrictions in the last trimester.
Political suicide for any Canadian politician.
No it's not. It's a diversion. It's whataboutism. It's saying that 2 wrongs make a right. It's an excuse for a valid argument even if there is actual hypocrisy..
Absolutely correct.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg has been sainted by the left because she was a liberal justice and a woman and Jewish.
But her legacy will be what we saw unfold last week. Ginsberg was selfish and arrogant in her desire to remain as a sitting judge on the Supreme Court. Obama asked her to retire while he still had control of the US Senate so he could have appointed a new, younger liberal justice in her place. But no. Instead she refused his very reasonable and prudent request and continued to sit on the court until she was 87 years old at which point she died. Unfathomable to me that she did this. If she had of just retired when asked, the vote on Roe v Wade would have gone the other way last friday as John Roberts, though a conservative, is a logical and ethical man. And by all accounts a legal scholar and head and shoulders above his colleagues on the Supreme Court.
But there are other examples where the Democrats royally fucked up:
1. Trump won. I know that seems dumb, but a huge number of Democrats did not vote in 2016 because they despised Hillary Clinton. Or they were Bernie supporters and figured they would show Hillary for her treacherous behaviour. I get that. I hated her too because I thought she was a vile candidate. But not voting for Hillary in the presidential election of 2016 was the very definition of "cutting off your nose to spite your face". At least Hillary was sane. And none of this would be happening now if she had of been elected. During his tenure, Trump hit the Supreme Court jackpot and was able to nominate and ultimately confirm three young conservative justices, quite likely setting the tenor of the Supreme Court for the next 20 years. Think about that.
2. Obama lost control of the US Senate in the midterm elections of 2014. No other president in US history has ever lost as many seats in congress as Obama did. During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president.
When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; when he left there were 46.
So when Obama had a chance to fill the vacant Supreme Court seat in March 2016 upon the sudden and unexpected death of Antonin Scalia, he knew he would never be able to fill the seat with a big L liberal justice, so he tried nominating a more moderate liberal, some might have even said "centrist" - Merick Garland. Obama hoped against hope that Garland would be confirmed by the Senate (since the POTUS nominates the Supreme Court justice and the Senate must approve the nomination.) But the Republicans were having none of that. They simply said "no way", not until the election in November 2016 (which Trump ultimately won) and the subsequent inauguration in January 2017.
The thing is, I don't blame Obama for the loss of congress. I blame the entire direction the Democratic party was taking at the time, and indeed the direction it continues to take today, (and will result in the the Democrats being ANNIHILATED this November and again in November 2024. Count on it.) In a nutshell, much like the NDP and liberals in Ontario have lost the ability to relate to working people and now choose to focus their collective energy on racism, gender identity, pronouns and various other notions of identity politics, the Democrats have also lost their way and are focused only on the interests of a tiny minority of people. As a result, the small D Democrats, the working people - traditional Democratic voters are thinking, "this is just fucking nuts" and have turned to the Republican party.
So it's not just Ginsberg's self centeredness and selfishness that has lead to what we last saw last Friday, it's a whole pile of "what ifs"
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On a separate matter, I will raise the issue of mandatory age for judges and politicians. Anyone who has older relatives and friends realizes that at a certain age judgment begins to suffer. It's possible Justice Ginsberg was selfish, but it's also very possible she could not comprehend how close she was to the end of her life and how risky that was for her liberal causes.
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87 years is too old to be fully in command of all one's faculties. Even if one remains intellectually acute, commonsense and day-to-day judgment suffer.
