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I couldn’t help but lay it out there to understand how others are feeling. Gone are the days of $120hh to $140hh in Durham. The SPs seem to be raising their prices in the range of $160hh to $200hh. I understand in the west end the prices were already jacked up and they have voluminous SPs. I’m just concerned for both the availability of SPs in Durham and our affordability. It’s not like our income is also going up to match inflating prices, thanks to taxes. Hobbying affordability comes with extra cash/leftover.

Also heard from Pickering Angels, last week’s visit, that their prices are going up and N/NR options will be removed. :(

How are you guys feeling about these price hikes and affordability of hobbling in our region?
 
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Sunshine321 said:
I couldn’t help but lay it out there to understand how others are feeling. Gone are the days of $120hh to $140hh in Durham. The SPs seem to be raising their prices in the range of $160hh to $200hh. I understand in the west end the prices were already jacked up and they have voluminous SPs. I’m just concerned for both the availability of SPs in Durham and our affordability. It’s not like our income is also going up to match inflating prices, thanks to taxes. Hobbying affordability comes with extra cash/leftover.

Also heard from Pickering Angels, last week’s visit, that their prices are going up and N/NR options will be removed. :(

How are you guys feeling about these price hikes and affordability of hobbling in our region?
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I understand that prices go up, but what are they doing extra to justify the increase? I would like to suggest car pooling - I come up from the Patch at least once a week, perhaps a couple of us here could share the gas $$$.....lol

I guess it`s the cost of having fun!
 
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Just don't see the girls that ask for $200 HH or $300 H.

Just last week, Kaydence Kox rate on her ad was $220 H. She is super well reviewed in durham, not remotely 2nd class escort at all. I do note the rate is not posted on her ad currently, so maybe it just got increased.


Also, Kelsey Star was in durham recently, and her hourly rate is $220. She is now in TO.


So both Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, were offering $220 H recently in durham. They are both highly reviewed chicks, first class escorts, and well known to Terbs.

Miss Silver is good too, at $220H or $120HH. Maybe her rates are $20 more now, IDK.

Chicks will demand 200HH or 300+H if we continue to pay for it. But there are lots of well review chicks that have normal pricing.

Like I have seen girls at $300H and $250H or $220H or $200H, and the price didn't reflect the experience. Like I didn't see much of a difference in performance based on price. A $300 H girl is not going to be better than Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, and they both charge $220 hour.

Also, if you see an escort more than once, don't forget to ask for a "regular" client rate. Like if the normal rate is $250H, most escorts will give you a discount on the repeats, like $200H. Or if it's a 140HH rate, most escorts will give you a regular rate of $100 or $120. YMMV of course, but 90% of escorts have given me a regular rate after seeing them once. The remaining 10% that don't, I don't repeat. But sometimes I do bring gifts on top of a regular rate, like good quality chocolate. Giving gifts makes the session less like transaction and more like a date, it becomes something in-between, which makes the vibes between the escort/client much better.
 
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Inflation is ruining it. I am no economist but it’s only downhill from here. Inflation is affecting everyone, some more than others. SP’s cannot justify the price increase due to inflation because I am not getting paid any extra to do my job. I guess this will either weed out the less financial capable clients or if their rates are too high for the services/level of service provided they would go out of business. Being financially responsible & saving is key. At the end of the day, escorting is a business & when you go see an SP you are supporting their business. My advice is do your research, save more & only invest to book well reviewed & trusted SP’s. This will eventually weed out bad business (bad SP’s), basically boycotting the market so that only reliable & good SP stay in business. The days of TOFFT/finding hidden gems are gone. TOFFT is too expensive & risky nowadays with an increase of scams during COVID. Times are a changing!
 
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Just last week, Kaydence Kox rate on her ad was $220 H. She is super well reviewed in durham, not remotely 2nd class escort at all. I do note the rate is not posted on her ad currently, so maybe it just got increased.

Miss Silver is good too, at $220H or $120HH. Maybe her rates are $20 more now, IDK.
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Kadence Kox is now $150hh and Miss Silver is $160hh. Nikki Jameson is $200hh. I guess the $h are not changing as much? More incentive to book hourly.

I can relate to worthiness of $$ based on reliability of service. My head was at the general level - new girls in the region that have not established their reputation and clientele as yet.

Also, Pickering Angels and LaVilla where the girls are hit and miss in terms of low restrictions and reliable service. $$ going up.
 
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Kadence Kox is now $150hh and Miss Silver is $160hh. Nikki Jameson is $200hh. I guess the $h are not changing as much? More incentive to book hourly.

I can relate to worthiness of $$ based on reliability of service. My head was at the general level - new girls in the region that have not established their reputation and clientele as yet.

Also, Pickering Angels and LaVilla where the girls are hit and miss in terms of low restrictions and reliable service. $$ going up.
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That’s why I stay with great rate girls.
 
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i agree, when business gets slow because the increasing rates, some have less play money,, then there will be blue light specials, to get clients returning.
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Yes I agree but lots of great providers in Durham that have not changed their rates. Monica Mimi Tina Candice. They are from 80 for 15 min to 120 half hour. These ladies are great and busy. The others raise their rates and my favourites love it Mates.
 
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Or SPs will just stop coming here from out of town. Why go to a region where the base price is lower than what you get elsewhere? A lot will likely stay in Toronto or wherever else and not bother coming here on tours at all. Some of our local favs might even move elsewhere they can make more money from those higher rates as well.

Let’s also keep in mind that not all clients are members of TERB or other review boards. Clients who aren’t or are generally less informed about the industry will continue to pay whatever the ladies charge and not think about it. That’s how there are still so many scammers, bad SP, etc etc active as well is because these clients keep them in business.
 
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I gladly pay what's asked if I feel I'm getting good value. It's appreciated, but I'm also extremally particular. I actually live in Durham, but never see any providers here. Tempted, but haven't yet.. Usually venture to Markham, or the city, for the selection. Quality over quantity for this guy...
 
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goldrod said:
Just don't see the girls that ask for $200 HH or $300 H.

Just last week, Kaydence Kox rate on her ad was $220 H. She is super well reviewed in durham, not remotely 2nd class escort at all. I do note the rate is not posted on her ad currently, so maybe it just got increased.


Also, Kelsey Star was in durham recently, and her hourly rate is $220. She is now in TO.


So both Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, were offering $220 H recently in durham. They are both highly reviewed chicks, first class escorts, and well known to Terbs.

Miss Silver is good too, at $220H or $120HH. Maybe her rates are $20 more now, IDK.

Chicks will demand 200HH or 300+H if we continue to pay for it. But there are lots of well review chicks that have normal pricing.

Like I have seen girls at $300H and $250H or $220H or $200H, and the price didn't reflect the experience. Like I didn't see much of a difference in performance based on price. A $300 H girl is not going to be better than Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, and they both charge $220 hour.

Also, if you see an escort more than once, don't forget to ask for a "regular" client rate. Like if the normal rate is $250H, most escorts will give you a discount on the repeats, like $200H. Or if it's a 140HH rate, most escorts will give you a regular rate of $100 or $120. YMMV of course, but 90% of escorts have given me a regular rate after seeing them once. The remaining 10% that don't, I don't repeat. But sometimes I do bring gifts on top of a regular rate, like good quality chocolate. Giving gifts makes the session less like transaction and more like a date, it becomes something in-between, which makes the vibes between the escort/client much better.
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Thanks! I forgot all about Kelsey Star. She and Silver are DEFINITELY on my TDL. Unless I'm planning to be in Tronna, I'll likely see Silver first, but thanks for putting Kelsey back on my radar (strawberry blonde = Yummmmm)
 
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USA escorts charge at 400-600 per hour. It’s 250 here
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It could be that it's super illegal in many US states, but basically legal here. Like the cops only arrest pimps and similar that traffic women. Like an O of weed costs me like $200-$300 before legalization. Now, I can get an O from a gov't run online store for $99 with free shipping, and it's safe weed, not the shit full of mold and who knows what else that I use to get.
 
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Or SPs will just stop coming here from out of town. Why go to a region where the base price is lower than what you get elsewhere? A lot will likely stay in Toronto or wherever else and not bother coming here on tours at all. Some of our local favs might even move elsewhere they can make more money from those higher rates as well.

Let’s also keep in mind that not all clients are members of TERB or other review boards. Clients who aren’t or are generally less informed about the industry will continue to pay whatever the ladies charge and not think about it. That’s how there are still so many scammers, bad SP, etc etc active as well is because these clients keep them in business.
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You speak wisdom. This race to the bottom only reinforces the idea of accepting exploitation instead of understanding that sex workers deserve to keep up with the cost of living. Its the same mentality I encounter when trying to book gigs for my side hustle and people offer me what I got paid in 1985. Then I"M the asshole because I wont do setup, soundcheck, three sets , pack-up and teardown for $100 (usually tying up my time from 6PM-3AM, not including travel time).

These women are putting your dick in their mouth, or down their throat, often getting your cum in their throat. They're also getting pounded by unattractive guys (or fat guys such as yours truly). Look at their overhead costs, then factor in what their job is. whether they enjoy their job is irrelevant - they don't deserve to be devalued. People will say to me "If you want that much you won't work very often." or "I thought playing music was fun. Besides, you're already making good money.". My side hustle is fun because I play what I want, with whom I want, for people I want. If I'm playing overplayed covers in a bar for drunks, that isn't fun. My pay scale is based on how much I will enjoy the gig. What's my point? I have often said that if I'm going to be a musical prostitute, I'm damned well going to be a highly paid musical prostitute. I can almost guarantee that the people complaining the most about SP rates aren't as hot or charming as they think they are.

I can't afford to hobby very often, and my little soldier needs help to stand at attention so when I do, I'm happy to spend the money for a woman who is cool to be with and who knows I value her as a human being. That connection increases the odds of a satisfying time for both of us. Instead of looking for the cheapest session, I'm perfectly content to indulge less often.
 
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You speak wisdom. This race to the bottom only reinforces the idea of accepting exploitation instead of understanding that sex workers deserve to keep up with the cost of living. Its the same mentality I encounter when trying to book gigs for my side hustle and people offer me what I got paid in 1985. Then I"M the asshole because I wont do setup, soundcheck, three sets , pack-up and teardown for $100 (usually tying up my time from 6PM-3AM, not including travel time).

These women are putting your dick in their mouth, or down their throat, often getting your cum in their throat. They're also getting pounded by unattractive guys (or fat guys such as yours truly). Look at their overhead costs, then factor in what their job is. whether they enjoy their job is irrelevant - they don't deserve to be devalued. People will say to me "If you want that much you won't work very often." or "I thought playing music was fun. Besides, you're already making good money.". My side hustle is fun because I play what I want, with whom I want, for people I want. If I'm playing overplayed covers in a bar for drunks, that isn't fun. My pay scale is based on how much I will enjoy the gig. What's my point? I have often said that if I'm going to be a musical prostitute, I'm damned well going to be a highly paid musical prostitute. I can almost guarantee that the people complaining the most about SP rates aren't as hot or charming as they think they are.

I can't afford to hobby very often, and my little soldier needs help to stand at attention so when I do, I'm happy to spend the money for a woman who is cool to be with and who knows I value her as a human being. That connection increases the odds of a satisfying time for both of us. Instead of looking for the cheapest session, I'm perfectly content to indulge
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You speak wisdom. This race to the bottom only reinforces the idea of accepting exploitation instead of understanding that sex workers deserve to keep up with the cost of living. Its the same mentality I encounter when trying to book gigs for my side hustle and people offer me what I got paid in 1985. Then I"M the asshole because I wont do setup, soundcheck, three sets , pack-up and teardown for $100 (usually tying up my time from 6PM-3AM, not including travel time).

These women are putting your dick in their mouth, or down their throat, often getting your cum in their throat. They're also getting pounded by unattractive guys (or fat guys such as yours truly). Look at their overhead costs, then factor in what their job is. whether they enjoy their job is irrelevant - they don't deserve to be devalued. People will say to me "If you want that much you won't work very often." or "I thought playing music was fun. Besides, you're already making good money.". My side hustle is fun because I play what I want, with whom I want, for people I want. If I'm playing overplayed covers in a bar for drunks, that isn't fun. My pay scale is based on how much I will enjoy the gig. What's my point? I have often said that if I'm going to be a musical prostitute, I'm damned well going to be a highly paid musical prostitute. I can almost guarantee that the people complaining the most about SP rates aren't as hot or charming as they think they are.

I can't afford to hobby very often, and my little soldier needs help to stand at attention so when I do, I'm happy to spend the money for a woman who is cool to be with and who knows I value her as a human being. That connection increases the odds of a satisfying time for both of us. Instead of looking for the cheapest session, I'm perfectly content to indulge less often.
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Supply and demand, and you simply just get what you pay for. I'm not complaining
 
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goldrod said:
Just don't see the girls that ask for $200 HH or $300 H.

Just last week, Kaydence Kox rate on her ad was $220 H. She is super well reviewed in durham, not remotely 2nd class escort at all. I do note the rate is not posted on her ad currently, so maybe it just got increased.


Also, Kelsey Star was in durham recently, and her hourly rate is $220. She is now in TO.


So both Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, were offering $220 H recently in durham. They are both highly reviewed chicks, first class escorts, and well known to Terbs.

Miss Silver is good too, at $220H or $120HH. Maybe her rates are $20 more now, IDK.

Chicks will demand 200HH or 300+H if we continue to pay for it. But there are lots of well review chicks that have normal pricing.

Like I have seen girls at $300H and $250H or $220H or $200H, and the price didn't reflect the experience. Like I didn't see much of a difference in performance based on price. A $300 H girl is not going to be better than Kaydence Kox & Kelsey Star, and they both charge $220 hour.

Also, if you see an escort more than once, don't forget to ask for a "regular" client rate. Like if the normal rate is $250H, most escorts will give you a discount on the repeats, like $200H. Or if it's a 140HH rate, most escorts will give you a regular rate of $100 or $120. YMMV of course, but 90% of escorts have given me a regular rate after seeing them once. The remaining 10% that don't, I don't repeat. But sometimes I do bring gifts on top of a regular rate, like good quality chocolate. Giving gifts makes the session less like transaction and more like a date, it becomes something in-between, which makes the vibes between the escort/client much better.
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Couldn't of said it better myself about KK. I've seen Kaydence Kox many times and she's not a nut bar like most at her price point and is a bargain at 220h.
 
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You speak wisdom. This race to the bottom only reinforces the idea of accepting exploitation instead of understanding that sex workers deserve to keep up with the cost of living. Its the same mentality I encounter when trying to book gigs for my side hustle and people offer me what I got paid in 1985. Then I"M the asshole because I wont do setup, soundcheck, three sets , pack-up and teardown for $100 (usually tying up my time from 6PM-3AM, not including travel time).

These women are putting your dick in their mouth, or down their throat, often getting your cum in their throat. They're also getting pounded by unattractive guys (or fat guys such as yours truly). Look at their overhead costs, then factor in what their job is. whether they enjoy their job is irrelevant - they don't deserve to be devalued. People will say to me "If you want that much you won't work very often." or "I thought playing music was fun. Besides, you're already making good money.". My side hustle is fun because I play what I want, with whom I want, for people I want. If I'm playing overplayed covers in a bar for drunks, that isn't fun. My pay scale is based on how much I will enjoy the gig. What's my point? I have often said that if I'm going to be a musical prostitute, I'm damned well going to be a highly paid musical prostitute. I can almost guarantee that the people complaining the most about SP rates aren't as hot or charming as they think they are.

I can't afford to hobby very often, and my little soldier needs help to stand at attention so when I do, I'm happy to spend the money for a woman who is cool to be with and who knows I value her as a human being. That connection increases the odds of a satisfying time for both of us. Instead of looking for the cheapest session, I'm perfectly content to indulge less often.
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Cant say I can sympathize with you. Sucks to suck, like today’s economy. I do agree with the last two things you said. Stay humble!
 
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