Rising prices & affordability
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Exactly. All these guys on here are like “lower your rates, lower your rates” when from the SPs perspective it’s more “No, I’ll just go where the money is” just like any other job. While I am also a lower income hobbier and haven’t had much time or freedom to partake since my last review, this just means I’ll have to save more money aside and be more particular about who I see in the future.
It’s all about perspective. Look at it from the SP’s point of view. It’s not about them lowering their rates, it’s about all of us having to adjust to the situation.
Still good either way. She's a cool chick and loves what she does.
Wow, a $80 increase in the hour rate since last week. Now that's inflation!!!
At least there is still Kelsey Star @ $220 hour. KK is good, but I do prefer Kelsey Star.
Haven't seen Kelsey Star advertise here in Durham in a while. She come out this way often.
She used to, but not often. She did post in durham last week. Even with the girls increasing their prices, if u have seen them before, they probably won't increase your rate. None of my regulars increased their rates with me, like ever.
KK was at $220 hour last week. She now posts no rate on her ad, but I gather via text it is $300. So she is probably testing it out, see if any1 bites. If not, she will bring her rate back to or near normal.
I got told 200hh 320h from Kaydence
I get that it is hard right now. You guys are not making more and cost of living has gone up leaving less money in your hobby pocket. But it is your hobby pocket. A luxury item. Our expenses just to make money have gone up. Double the gas, 50% more in hotel costs, ad fees have gone up etc. This is our overhead. So to make our same salary as last year or two years - we have to raise rates. One is luxury spending vrs expense spending. We are not making more. We didn’t get a raise, we are just trying to cover the increased cost of our expenses. Not even for the higher cost of living. Just to cover costs.
For example. It cost me an extra $100 in gas to go to Ottawa a couple of weeks ago. Hotel was about $150 more then last year over the 3 nights. If I don’t raise my rates then I am making $250 less this trip then past trips. If I raise my rates $20, then that expense number difference gets partially covered and while I still make less, it is not by as much.
We are not just to milk you guys for the most we can, we are just trying to avoid a pay cut.
I want to also point out that this Durham attitude of “if we don’t pay, they will lower their rates” as not worked. All it has done is make Durham a wasteland. We had multiple agencies, several indies and touring ladies. Now there are no agencies (C&E is not an agency really) barely any touring ladies and only a select few of regular indies who live and therefore work in Durham for convenience of location. So be careful that you guys don’t drive everyone out completely. I personally will only see regulars now in Durham because I can’t stand all the hagglers here. It is a big difference from other locations just FYI. It is turning off escorts from this area.
For example. It cost me an extra $100 in gas to go to Ottawa a couple of weeks ago. Hotel was about $150 more then last year over the 3 nights. If I don’t raise my rates then I am making $250 less this trip then past trips. If I raise my rates $20, then that expense number difference gets partially covered and while I still make less, it is not by as much.
We are not just to milk you guys for the most we can, we are just trying to avoid a pay cut.
I want to also point out that this Durham attitude of “if we don’t pay, they will lower their rates” as not worked. All it has done is make Durham a wasteland. We had multiple agencies, several indies and touring ladies. Now there are no agencies (C&E is not an agency really) barely any touring ladies and only a select few of regular indies who live and therefore work in Durham for convenience of location. So be careful that you guys don’t drive everyone out completely. I personally will only see regulars now in Durham because I can’t stand all the hagglers here. It is a big difference from other locations just FYI. It is turning off escorts from this area.
as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Toronto is the place to go.. nothing here in the Wasteland, only a cpl good ladies, Ifuseek, Mimi and maybe 1 or 2 others. I make the drive to Scarb or Markham anytime. Not so worried about the gas prices, is what it is, no point in complaining about it, communism at is best is setting in and said for a yrs. not getting in to politics.
Very well said and explained, Jenesis. Thanks. I understand the hotel costs have gone up because tourism is crazy this year. Also gas prices go up and down. But SP prices once go up it is likely the new baseline. To keep up we either pick & choose carefully based on service or cut down on hobbying as we have less in our pocket. Latter is painful as we all have our itches, and hobby to stay normal in our everyday life.
Just for my understanding, independent SPs that live in the region, host in same places, get paid in cash/no taxes, earn more than regular folks e.g. people breaking their backs and legs in Walmart. Then how is 40 to 50% increase in rates justified?
Also, some folks say stay with regulars and you will experience less volatility in rates. That’s one type of hobbyists. But others believe in ‘Variety is the spice of life’ and if we stay regular with one SP then we are virtually married to them. So as we switch between SPs and we experience increasing rates.
Not sure there is any solution but it’s good to hear different sides of story to understand what pressures each side is facing. Now these times may be temporary or new normal. We all are dealing with them as we go.
"Just for my understanding, independent SPs that live in the region, host in same places, get paid in cash/no taxes, earn more than regular folks e.g. people breaking their backs and legs in Walmart. Then how is 40 to 50% increase in rates justified?"
exactly.. and avoiding at least the 30% tax. can you say money grab.
I texted her 11am today.
Me " Hey babe, what are your rates? "
KK "140hh 260hr solos 260hh 480hr duos"
Me "May i ask who your duo partner is?"
KK "Olivia there is a pic I. My add and she also has an add up. If you type in Kaydence in the search bar my name is in her add"
So KK went from $220 Hour last week to $300 and $320 yesterday, to $260 Hour today. So if no one bites at $300/$320, it goes down! Now $260.
Also, when I use to chill with Melody, she told me she made 5K in just one weekend, so don't feel too bad for the escorts, especially cause they don't pay income taxes. That said, if escorts can get more money cause the rich 1% will pay, good for them, fuck the 1%. But for blue collar workers, inflation is tough. During tough times, it's the discretionary expenses that go first, like escorting, or even netflix is losing business now. So raising prices to a level where it pushes blue collar workers out of the market is not great for escorts either.
In the end, it's supply and demand. If people will pay higher prices, then prices will increase. If people won't pay higher prices, then come down like KK just did. I do recommend seeing KK, but $260H 140 HH would be a max. You can also ask escorts is there a low volume time that you could see them where prices are lower. During peak times, they should get surge pricing. During wasteland times, discounted pricing. Like maybe that is best for clients and escorts. Can't afford the inflation, see them during low demand times. Your the 1%, see them during popular times with surge pricing.
Bottom line, go see KK soon while the prices are more normal!!!
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You are right if we just dont agree to the rates , they will lower .. 20$ increase on outcalls because gas .. ok ill bite .. but incalls at large increases.. ill wait it out with you guys
I have lowered rates before. My rates now are lowered then what I was charging. Because touring allowed me to spread expenses out over more clients then if I work at home in Whitby. It did this last year because COVID times were tough and some clients were out of work, etc. So it does it happen.
As to the money grabbing escort, maybe talk to the contractor who does his side gigs in cash and doesn’t pay taxes on it. Or the mechanic who takes cash and doesn’t pay taxes on it. Everyone gets mad at the escort but Plenty of places do this. And not all SPs avoid taxes. I don’t. I pay mine. I prefer to write off expenses and stuff so that is me. Not all escorts are like me, I get that but not all of us are cash grabbing women either.
I don’t understand I’ve never once put my rates in my add and I have not have I charged 220hr. I have how ever posted specials 120hh 240hr… 200hh 320hr are my outcall rates in Whitby… 140hh 260hr are my rates during my working hours and if anyone wants me to come back to my incall once home I charge 150hh 300hr.
That’s roughly a 43% increase on the hh and a 45% increase on the h. Inflation is affecting all of us. Like others mentioned most of us aren’t getting raises but, if she has enough clients willing to pay the new rates good for her. Unfortunately, she has priced herself out of my range.
If the numbers get closer to the 400 range, I'd be expecting a pse experience. Just sayin..
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