Russian and Ukrain military footage

[nottyboi]

So you don't reject OSINT, you just reject English sources in principle?
Russian-language OSINT you would be fine with, then?

I don't reject anything, I just treat all info as having a bias, and try to weight it accordingly. Just about every report has a bias.

 

[nottyboi]

If they have warehouses of these tires why are they sending out critical missile launchers with 30 year old tires that fall apart before they reach their target?

How do you know the tire fell apart vs hitting a mine or shot out etc? If the tire has been sitting in storage for 30 years it may very well be ok depending on conditions of storage. Tires are made incredibly tough and stable, when they sit in a warehouse they degrade very slowly.

 

[mandrill]

His exact statement was that both RT and OSINT "are both propaganda mouthpieces," which implies it is either an agency or an organization.
And then of course, "OSINT is primarily a western concept, and the site has developed its own cognitive bias" here he claims it is a website.
In the answer to me he has expanded that to "a hashtag".
He might eventually realize that it is an acronym standing for a specific intelligence gathering approach that is used internationally by citizens of more than one country.

He just wriggles around trying to find a way to support Putin and retain his credibility.

 

[nottyboi]

Sure, notty. In 1905. But this is now 2022 when Europe is federated, integrated and peaceful. Who tf in Europe marches around "imposing their will with a powerful military"?..... Nobody except Russia. If your theory was correct, France and Germany would re-fight the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 every 10 years forever.

And the saddest shit of all is that Russia is a weak 3rd tier European state that's a fraction as strong as the UK, France or Germany. It's a classic case of a mean chihuahua that believes it can eat the German shepherd.

Everything you post is a weak attempt to justify your support for a fascist-imperialist aggressor that is committing genocide on a smaller neighbour.



Notty, almost every Russian state-affiliated public figure has now stated that Russia needs to re build its empire and rule all Slavs. It's nuts, but this is the core ideology of the Russian state in 2022. You're just not reading and absorbing plain facts in the news.


Notty, the Russians have genocided villages, including torturing inhabitants. They have torn down Ukrainian statues and replaced them with Russian ones. They have looted farm crops and agricultural machinery. They have bombarded Ukrainian cities into rubble. They have attempted to force Ukrainians to vote in referendums introducing Russian rule. The only thing they haven't done is dropped nukes on Kyiv - probably because their nukes no longer work and they'd probably blow up Moscow by mistake.

This has nothing to do with "Russophobia" and everything to do with fascism and imperialism.

Wow this is laughable, especially just after NATO went to Afghanistan to try and impose its will and failed. After a subset of NATO countries bombed Libya and overthrew Ghadaffi... like honestly, were you on drugs the last decade? Holy FUCK.

 

[mandrill]

How do you know the tire fell apart vs hitting a mine or shot out etc? If the tire has been sitting in storage for 30 years it may very well be ok depending on conditions of storage. Tires are made incredibly tough and stable, when they sit in a warehouse they degrade very slowly.

Buddy, no. All you write is counter-factual. There are dozens of photos of shredded Russian tires with close-ups of wear damage and sun damage in the areas where the tires failed.

Experts are now doing threads on the Russian tire failures.

 

[mandrill]

Wow this is laughable, especially just after NATO went to Afghanistan to try and impose its will and failed. After a subset of NATO countries bombed Libya and overthrew Ghadaffi... like honestly, were you on drugs the last decade? Holy FUCK.

You miss the point. There are different rules for Europe and the Third World. No one really gives a fuck about the Third World. But no one fucks around in Europe. It's a sacrosanct rule. Putin just broke it and that's 75% of why Europe is hating on him and supporting Ukraine.

 

[mandrill]

I don't reject anything, I just treat all info as having a bias, and try to weight it accordingly. Just about every report has a bias.

We all sift, notty. There's just nothing that says Russia is doing well to sift.

 

[nottyboi]

Buddy, no. All you write is counter-factual. There are dozens of photos of shredded Russian tires with close-ups of wear damage and sun damage in the areas where the tires failed.

Experts are now doing threads on the Russian tire failures.

Oh wow..so some tires failed..good thing they have more!! How many tires have failed? Does this affect the strategic situation? These missile trucks can shoot their missiles from great distances, so does it render them ineffective while they wait for new tires to be sent?

 

[mandrill]

Oh wow..so some tires failed..good thing they have more!! How many tires have failed? Does this affect the strategic situation? These missile trucks can shoot their missiles from great distances, so does it render them ineffective while they wait for new tires to be sent?

Thousands of tires are failing. The trucks are all totally fucked through lack of maintenance.

 

[nottyboi]

You miss the point. There are different rules for Europe and the Third World. No one really gives a fuck about the Third World. But no one fucks around in Europe. It's a sacrosanct rule. Putin just broke it and that's 75% of why Europe is hating on him and supporting Ukraine.

Ok so then you are endorsing racism then? How about when NATO bombed Serbia and created Kosovo? How was that "within the rules" . Dude give it up. You eat up the BS like its filet mignon. How dark does the skin tone have to be before killing them is OK?

 

[mandrill]

Oh wow..so some tires failed..good thing they have more!! How many tires have failed? Does this affect the strategic situation? These missile trucks can shoot their missiles from great distances, so does it render them ineffective while they wait for new tires to be sent?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521182849000423426

 

[nottyboi]

Thousands of tires are failing. The trucks are all totally fucked through lack of maintenance.

Well we shall see if this makes a difference. Now I am seeing the theory of "Cheap Chinese Tires" being floated, while the other pic posted showed made in the USSR. So you see how easily it is to read between the lines and see the bias? War is full of operational problems. In WWII US torpedoes were failing by the score costing lives of US sailors. It took ages to fix this simple issue.

 

[mandrill]

Ok so then you are endorsing racism then? How about when NATO bombed Serbia and created Kosovo? How was that "within the rules" . Dude give it up. You eat up the BS like its filet mignon. How dark does the skin tone have to be before killing them is OK?

Serbia broke the rules as well. And Europe freaked out about it.

I didn't say killing folks in the 3rd World was okay. I post numerous times in support of Syrian refugees for instance. But most Europeans and North Americans don't give a shit. Let's do it this way, notty: Give me a list of all the articles and social media posts about Ukraine in the last month. Probably 100,000 or more?

Now do the same thing for the war in Yemen. Now do the same thing for the current Ethiopian genocide war. There's probably 100 articles on Yemen? And 5 or 6 on Ethiopia?

See my point?

 

[mandrill]

Well we shall see if this makes a difference. Now I am seeing the theory of "Cheap Chinese Tires" being floated, while the other pic posted showed made in the USSR. So you see how easily it is to read between the lines and see the bias? War is full of operational problems. In WWII US torpedoes were failing by the score costing lives of US sailors. It took ages to fix this simple issue.

Yes, the torpedoes were a major problem. The USN improved their kill rate when they fixed the torpedoes. Your point being?

 

[nottyboi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521182849000423426

you don't think that piece of ordinance had anything to do with the tires deflating?

 

[mandrill]

you don't think that piece of ordinance had anything to do with the tires deflating?

Is that what Telenko says when he analyzes those tires, notty?

 

[nottyboi]

Serbia broke the rules as well. And Europe freaked out about it.

I didn't say killing folks in the 3rd World was okay. I post numerous times in support of Syrian refugees for instance. But most Europeans and North Americans don't give a shit. Let's do it this way, notty: Give me a list of all the articles and social media posts about Ukraine in the last month. Probably 100,000 or more?

Now do the same thing for the war in Yemen. Now do the same thing for the current Ethiopian genocide war. There's probably 100 articles on Yemen? And 5 or 6 on Ethiopia?

See my point?

Oh so Serbia broke the rules, yet Ukraine who signed the Minsk accords WITH German and French endorsement TWICE, and refused to implement them is somehow blameless. Dude GIVE IT A REST!!!

 

[mandrill]

Oh so Serbia broke the rules, yet Ukraine who signed the Minsk accords WITH German and French endorsement TWICE, and refused to implement them is somehow blameless. Dude GIVE IT A REST!!!

Ukraine didn't attack anyone, notty. It defended itself. That's the difference in perception.

Just like now. Ukraine is killing 100's of Russians, but it's self defence. So the rest of Europe supports Ukraine, not Russia.

 

[nottyboi]

Is that what Telenko says when he analyzes those tires, notty?

He just ignores that possibility. So here is another clue. If the tires failed due to age or defect .. what are the chances more then one failed at the EXACT SAME TIME!! ON THE SAME SIDE, RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. OMG you are clueless.

 

[nottyboi]

Ukraine didn't attack anyone, notty. It defended itself. That's the difference in perception.

Just like now. Ukraine is killing 100's of Russians, but it's self defence. So the rest of Europe supports Ukraine, not Russia.

Then why did the Minsk Accords exist and why did the French and Germans sponsor it. Were they to prevent Ukraine from being too nice to Donbas? How did 14,000 people die ?