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The double standard with Hunter Biden's laptop is worse than you think

Leimonis

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is it possible that the person who assaulted Chris Rock at the Oscars was actually Hunter Biden? I am just asking questions!
 

Valcazar

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😆 That's not what I said. But, sure, try to make hay. You gonna love it, next year. Right now, the last vestiges of the honest media AND the Congressional Republicans are laying the ground work for some real fun that is yet to come. The first objective was to verify and legitimize- that's now done. You can guess what comes next and, this time, the lying MSM, the social media fascists, the intelligence "experts" or the "fact checkers" won't be standing in the way. They'll be running for cover. Criminal charges and threats of perjury tend to have that effect- even on lying rats. Oh, yeah...and a Special Counsel for Joe.
What perjury charges would be laid?
I don't think Congress can order a Special Counsel, btw, pretty sure that falls under the executive.
I do expect endless hearings into the hard drive contents, though, because they can cast shadows and imply things for ages that way.
 

Valcazar

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I'm not sure this statement is correct. I don't know enough about the FBIs ability to glean the labtop for information.

I don't really think the FBI or anyone will be able to definitively prove that Hunter and Joe were peddling influence. There is also the tax angle that complicates things. It would seem there is enough for the FBI to investigate. And yes, the FBI is investigating.
They are.
The tax angle (I will not at all be shocked if Hunter fucked up his taxes with this and will get hit with something.)
The FARA angle (The evidence people have leaked from the laptop so far shows he was going out of his way to not fall foul of FARA, but I suspect it may be found he failed to register as a foreign agent and will have to pay a fine or however one deals with a past filing error.)
The "influence peddling" angle. We agree it is very unlikely they will find anything they can prosecute. Nothing from the laptop is proof this happened (if there was, it would have been released by now). There are emails that could maybe hint that maybe it might have happened. That's not enough to convict anyone. They will need records from elsewhere, chains of events to show what happened, etc. Presumably that is part of what is being investigated if the investigation has expanded past his tax problems.
 

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I'm not sure this statement is correct. I don't know enough about the FBIs ability to glean the labtop for information.

I don't really think the FBI or anyone will be able to definitively prove that Hunter and Joe were peddling influence. There is also the tax angle that complicates things. It would seem there is enough for the FBI to investigate. And yes, the FBI is investigating.
The WP did a deep look.
Read it.
 

Dutch Oven

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You should likely stick to not commenting about computer forensics.
Please enlighten us, if that is your area of expertise.
 

Dave58

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So someone has his Laptop but we cant get trump to release his tax returns , we cant get anyone of Trump , his enablers etc to appear before congress even after they 've be subpoenaed

This is one fucked up USA
 

Frankfooter

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So someone has his Laptop but we cant get trump to release his tax returns , we cant get anyone of Trump , his enablers etc to appear before congress even after they 've be subpoenaed

This is one fucked up USA
Yup, rump got Putin to release Hillary's email in time to take focus away from pussygate.
Then he got Rudy to get hacks of Hunter's emails but nothing happened.
And since there isn't any other Biden hacks or scandals the right wingers are stuck pushing this one.

There was no scandal in Hillary's emails and the worst in Hunter might be a tax issue.
Poor right wingers, but at least it gives them something to obsess over.
 

WyattEarp

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Didn't you hear?
The FBI is apparently the one giving the emails to the NY Post.
I think you were going for a joke here, but the media seemed to know a lot about the FBI's investigation of Russian meddling/collusion long before it was made public
 

WyattEarp

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Who released the Access Hollywood tape?
Does it matter? One would presume someone who was very interested in defeating Trump.

Someone clearly held on to it and waited carefully through the primaries, the conventions and deep into the campaign.
 

WyattEarp

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The problem is that what was shown on TV did not look like a coup attempt at all, so you should give up, if that's your best argument.
Pre-organizing a mob to over run the Capitol in an effort to stop the certification of a democratic election…. As admitted by many, in the administration, and who were formerly in the investigation.

And I will use your tactic…. They are “investigating”, so 🤷🏻
Poker, I wanted to give credit for your effort and tenacity.

However, I have to ask if this rag-tag mob took over the Capitol for an extended period, what would happen next? Were there insurrectionists waiting outside Washington to sweep in and hold the Capitol? Why didn't they materialize? Why didn't the few thousand protesters in Washington that day rush into the Capitol? A coup needs an extended plan not just a disruption. These are fair questions of the Jan. 6 coup narrative.

The truth is this group of misfits could only delay the certification for a few hours. If there was adequate security that day, these idiots would have been rounded up and thrown in jail in short order with the slightest delay.

The media is the one that confuses and obfuscates events. The direct violence employed by the mob on January 6 has been greatly exaggerated. The suicides are tragic, but I wouldn't say unruly protesters causing stress in law enforcers is a "deadly attack".

 
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Poker, I wanted to give credit for your effort and tenacity.

However, I have to ask if this rag-tag mob took over the Capitol for an extended period, what would happen next? Were there insurrectionists waiting outside Washington to sweep in and hold the Capitol? Why didn't they materialize? Why didn't the few thousand protesters in Washington that day rush into the Capitol? A coup needs an extended plan not just a disruption. These are fair questions of the Jan. 6 coup narrative.

The truth is this group of misfits could only delay the certification for a few hours. If there was adequate security that day, these idiots would have been rounded up and thrown in jail in short order with the slightest delay.

The media is the one that confuses and obfuscates events. The direct violence employed by the mob on January 6 has been greatly exaggerated. The suicides are tragic, but I wouldn't say unruly protesters causing stress in law enforcers is a "deadly attack".

LOL. Your attempt to rewrite history is really quite funny.
 

poker

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Poker, I wanted to give credit for your effort and tenacity.

However, I have to ask if this rag-tag mob took over the Capitol for an extended period, what would happen next? Were there insurrectionists waiting outside Washington to sweep in and hold the Capitol? Why didn't they materialize? Why didn't the few thousand protesters in Washington that day rush into the Capitol? A coup needs an extended plan not just a disruption. These are fair questions of the Jan. 6 coup narrative.

The truth is this group of misfits could only delay the certification for a few hours. If there was adequate security that day, these idiots would have been rounded up and thrown in jail in short order with the slightest delay.

The media is the one that confuses and obfuscates events. The direct violence employed by the mob on January 6 has been greatly exaggerated. The suicides are tragic, but I wouldn't say unruly protesters causing stress in law enforcers is a "deadly attack".

Steve Bannon already openly admitted the Plan. Use the Mob and Capitol attack to stop Biden’s Certification…. Had Pence and McConnell agreed, it would been much more than a few hours. Then, use the courts to overturn votes in 4 key swing states. Arizona, Georgia…

So, it wasn’t the Mob was going to rule…. It was the last hope they had of delaying it to get it in front of the Supreme Court.
 
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Dave58

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The truth is this group of misfits could only delay the certification for a few hours. If there was adequate security that day, these idiots would have been rounded up and thrown in jail in short order with the slightest delay.
Your buddy didnt want any security
 

WyattEarp

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LOL. Your attempt to rewrite history is really quite funny.
What is quite funny are shallow dismissals without substantive retort.
 
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WyattEarp

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Steve Bannon already openly admitted the Plan. Use the Mob and Capitol attack to stop Biden’s Certification…. Had Pence and McConnell agreed, it would been much more than a few hours. Then, use the courts to overturn votes in 4 key swing states. Arizona, Georgia…

So, it wasn’t the Mob was going to rule…. It was the last hope they had of delaying it to get it in front of the Supreme Court.
If Bannon had a plan to storm the Capitol, then that's a crime. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

However on the face, I think you would agree with the statement conception is not the same as execution. It's very possible that someone conceived what you noted, but was there a coup in every sense of the word taking place on January 6. As you yourself said, it's being investigated.
 
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poker

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If Bannon had a plan to storm the Capitol, then that's a crime. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

However on the face, I think you would agree with the statement conception is not the same as execution. It's very possible that someone conceived what you noted, but was there a coup in every sense of the word taking place on January 6. As you yourself said, it's being investigated.
Well…. They were coordinating with the White House and Senators.

Again, I only what I hear. Nobody is going to be punished, and democracy is almost over in the US.
 

WyattEarp

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Well…. They were coordinating with the White House and Senators.

Again, I only what I hear. Nobody is going to be punished, and democracy is almost over in the US.
You're being overly dramatic. Feeds into the January 6 hysteria. A real coup attempt would have military leaders and units involved to prop up an unelected government.

Some liberal partisans (and some extreme conservatives) think disagreement with their views is a failure of democracy. It's all swell when they have large majorities.

I think Canada could use more dissent. You might have it sooner than later. Dissent is a cornerstone of democracy. Merkel in Germany was great at limiting dissent, but her legacy is now being reviewed by current events.
 
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WyattEarp

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Well…. They were coordinating with the White House and Senators.

Again, I only what I hear. Nobody is going to be punished, and democracy is almost over in the US.
Honestly, I have not heard the details of such. I know Trump did not want Pence to certify the results of the electoral college. Perhaps that and the court challenges are being put in the "coup" blender.
 
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