The double standard with Hunter Biden's laptop is worse than you think

[Dutch Oven]

Peddling influence is not a crime… Neither is diplomats staying at a Trump property looking for political favours from Trump while he was in office. Corporations are apparently people…

Bottom line… you appear to be a blinded by politics in your decision making. Sorry. Investing the Bidens means they were dirty… but the Trumps we’re always innocent. You make excuses for this side, and believe and promote everything nasty said about the other. That’s not smart.

If the Bidens are guilty of anything, I hope they pay for it. Same for the Trumps.
… btw, how did Hillary’s email scandal turn out? Bet you were all over that once upon a time.

Peddling influence can be a crime, if the circumstances constitute bribery, extortion or a host of other corruption charges.

Here's a useful introduction to US anti-corruption criminal statutes: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption

As to Hillary's misdeeds, she violated federal records laws, but Comey decided to use his discretion not to prosecute. It wasn't a corruption charge. Lucky for her, because I'm confident she destroyed those records for a reason. There are still outstanding investigations regarding their destruction.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

Jan 6 was Trump giving a middle finger to the world, using his dumb followers. Did he have any chance in hell of “stopping Biden from being President”? No! He lost when he couldn’t overturn those 4 states. The courts shut his fraud claim down. The end.

Stop obsessing on trying to lock Trump up. He toed the legal line just enough to not be imprisonned. So yeah he will get away with it.

Organizers of the convoy are going to jail for helping organize a protest. I think that’s a double standard.

You seriously think your hero had absolutely nothing to do with the riot on Jan 6 to stop Joe Biden from being president .

Fucking amazing

 

[poker]

Peddling influence can be a crime, if the circumstances constitute bribery, extortion or a host of other corruption charges.

Here's a useful introduction to US anti-corruption criminal statutes: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption

As to Hillary's misdeeds, she violated federal records laws, but Comey decided to use his discretion not to prosecute. It wasn't a corruption charge. Lucky for her, because I'm confident she destroyed those records for a reason. There are still outstanding investigations regarding their destruction.

Dutch…. We all know there is corruption in politics. That we agree on. I think we might even agree that politicians have written themselves some loopholes, to avoid corruption charges, while still accepting corporate money and voting on things that affect those corporations.

Where we disagree… is which party is more corrupt. Gerrymandering voting districts. Picking Supreme Court Justices. Murder and pedophile accusations. All that appears to be good with you. Got it. Trump putting his kids on the Whitehouse payroll to “solve the Mideast peace crisis”…. Didn’t blink an eye did you. We all get it. If a televised Coup attempt could not convince you, than I give up. If a phone call to State reps asking to find more votes is not illegal to you, then great!

One question though…. Do you work for Mike Lindell, or Alex Jones?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I seriously cannot comprehend that people do not understand that Jan 6 was a coup to overthrown democracy.

People who do not wake up now will regret it.

It's ok because of rhe blm protests....haven't you been reading your gqp Bible?

 

[toguy5252]

You are too emotionally invested in Trump...while you may know something about Trump having to do with the riot...DoJ and the authorities don't have the kind of information you possess to nail Trump in the Jan 6 riot...if you really wanna help with the investigation...cough up the proof instead of bitching about what you know in an escort review board...

It is really quite simple. The most transparent POTUS in history need only withdraw his idiotic claims of executive privilege and his minions and he can set the record straight before the Committee. Oh wait a second he has invoked a non-existent privilege to try and shield hi former employees from testifying, he has fought every subpoena, he has provided no documents and generally done everything possible to obstruct the Committee in its search for answers. Obviously the efforts of an innocent person.

 

[Dutch Oven]

If a televised Coup attempt could not convince you, than I give up.

The problem is that what was shown on TV did not look like a coup attempt at all, so you should give up, if that's your best argument.

 

[richaceg]

It is really quite simple. The most transparent POTUS in history need only withdraw his idiotic claims of executive privilege and his minions and he can set the record straight before the Committee. Oh wait a second he has invoked a non-existent privilege to try and shield hi former employees from testifying, he has fought every subpoena, he has provided no documents and generally done everything possible to obstruct the Committee in its search for answers. Obviously the efforts of an innocent person.

It's within their laws...still no laws violated by his actions...until someone can come up with a concrete evidence to nail orangeman, he's out there living amongst innocent civilians...

 

[jalimon]

It's ok because of rhe blm protests....haven't you been reading your gqp Bible?

The BLM protest were not about politics. They were about racial injustice and inequalities. And there will be more.

The american people will not be protected for long in their gated communities when such a growing majority of the populations is getting poorer and poorer.

 

[toguy5252]

It's within their laws...still no laws violated by his actions...until someone can come up with a concrete evidence to nail orangeman, he's out there living amongst innocent civilians...

LOL. You were talking about the evidence the Committee has or does not. I was pointing out that the biggest impediment to the Committee doing its job is the obstruction by the former insurrectionist in chief. The guy who continually refers to himself as the most transparent POTUS in history.

 

[WyattEarp]

Trump had patents in China approved for his company, and his for his children.

Your bias comes out loudly in such a statement. Trump had the patents approved? I think that's kind of a silly statement. By the way, Ivana trademarks her brand. There are no Ivanka Trump patents.

The topic was a media talking point that failed to mention the Chinese govt. culture expect personal favors and give personal favors. Lastly, Ivana shutdown the brand before the patents were approved. That's really an important omission no matter how you want to portray it.

When the media gives you only half a story, it's not a story. This forum is littered with untruths and non-stories that were hyped up by the media. Only the loony Left can level a criticism like this, while simultaneously criticizing Trump for his tough stance on China.

Apparently, Japan and Canada also fast-tracked trademark approvals as well. Trudeau must have been plotting something with Trump.

 

[toguy5252]

Your bias comes out loudly in such a statement. Trump had the patents approved? I think that's kind of a silly statement. By the way, Ivana trademarks her brand. There are no Ivana Trump patents.

The topic was a media talking point that failed to mention the Chinese govt. culture expect personal favors and give personal favors. Lastly, Ivana shutdown the brand before the patents were approved. That's really an important omission no matter how you want to portray it.

When the media gives you only half a story, it's not a story. This forum is littered with untruths and non-stories that were hyped up by the media. Only the loony Left can level a criticism like this, while simultaneously criticizing Trump for his tough stance on China.

Apparently, Japan and Canada also fast-tracked trademark approvals as well. Trudeau must have been plotting something with Trump.

LOL. You are quite right. Commerce in China and Canada are exactly the same. And she shut down the brand because the name became poison.

The eagerness of his followers to continually try and rationalize behaviors which cannot be innocently explained away is really quite impressive. That is what it is like to be a member of a cult.

 

[Leimonis]

The problem is that what was shown on TV did not look like a coup attempt at all, so you should give up, if that's your best argument.

Let’s imagine that you are about to sign a document in your own home and a bunch of people show up, overcome the doorman, break into your house and start looking for you to stop you from signing.
If that sounds okay to you please provide your address so that we can come and peacefully protest against your position.

 

[WyattEarp]

You are too emotionally invested in Trump...while you may know something about Trump having to do with the riot...DoJ and the authorities don't have the kind of information you possess to nail Trump in the Jan 6 riot...if you really wanna help with the investigation...cough up the proof instead of bitching about what you know in an escort review board...

That was the exact point made with those screaming Russian collusion. They heard it reported by the media so much they were convinced they had heard and seen evidence. Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff said told the world he had seen the evidence.

If you have evidence of Russian collusion or a Jan. 6 coup d'etat, you should have call the Justice Dept. or FBI immediately.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Let’s imagine that you are about to sign a document in your own home and a bunch of people show up, overcome the doorman, break into your house and start looking for you to stop you from signing.
If that sounds okay to you please provide your address so that we can come and peacefully protest against your position.

No need to imagine anything, since we got to see what happened on TV. A large group of protesters. A small contingent of Capital police who were either incompetently directed, or who decided to abandon their posts out of frustration with the lack of direction. A few troublemakers who took advantage of the situation to breach the lines of security. A vast majority who entered into the Capital who didn't even know how it was made possible for them to be inside. A vast majority who wandered around the Capital like aimless tourists and who damaged nothing and harmed no one. A few larpers and grandstanders. One incompetent cop who killed a protester unnecessarily. A crowd which quickly left the building when told to do so. The whole thing lasted less than a couple of hours.

In summary, a protest about 1/100th as violent and dangerous as 20 or so BLM/George Floyd protests that happened during 2020, none of which were characterized as a coup, or even as significant social unrest.

There, now you can give your imagination a rest and focus on what actually happened.

 

[WyattEarp]

LOL. You are quite right. Commerce in China and Canada are exactly the same. And she shut down the brand because the name became poison.

The eagerness of his followers to continually try and rationalize behaviors which cannot be innocently explained away is really quite impressive. That is what it is like to be a member of a cult.

No, the trademark thing got blown way out of proportion and people weren't given all the facts. It got repeated so often that people are quite comfortable repeating it here again and again. Most continue to omit all the facts even after they made aware of the omission. If the trademark thing is such a great point, why leave out important details?

Beside the non-serious posters who attack and dismiss others, I think most of you know I would not post half the information and ignore the half that did not support my opinion. You will likely see the good and the bad in my same post.

As far as rationalizing behaviors, let's not get dramatic. The Ivanka Trump brand existed long before the 2016 election. The brand was shutdown before the trademarks were approved. Those are the facts. Speculating that she wanted to peddle influence is not even conjecture. It's imagination.

 

[toguy5252]

No, the trademark thing got blown way out of proportion and people weren't given all the facts. It got repeated so often that people are quite comfortable repeating it here again and again. Most continue to omit all the facts even after they made aware of the omission. If the trademark thing is such a great point, why leave out important details?

Beside the non-serious posters who attack and dismiss others, I think most of you know I would not post half the information and ignore the half that did not support my opinion. You will likely see the good and the bad in my same post.

As far as rationalizing behaviors, let's not get dramatic. The Ivanka Trump brand existed long before the 2016 election. The brand was shutdown before the trademarks were approved. Those are the facts. Speculating that she wanted to peddle influence is not even conjecture. It's imagination.

LOL. You are the one who is ignoring facts and cherry picking facts that you think may be relevant. there was not shortage of actual evidence of countries and companies seeking to curry favor with the sorest loser in history. just look at the thousands of room nights that were booked at the post office which were never occupied. t=There were many, many examples of such blatant attempts to gain favour. lets get real here.

Ivank had applied for her TM's when her brand was flourishing and the applications were going nowhere until the election. She obviously did not anticipate the poison that her brand would become.

 

[toguy5252]

That was the exact point made with those screaming Russian collusion. They heard it reported by the media so much they were convinced they had heard and seen evidence. Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff said told the world he had seen the evidence.

If you have evidence of Russian collusion or a Jan. 6 coup d'etat, you should have call the Justice Dept. or FBI immediately.

there was no shortage of evidence of actual cooperation between the campaign and Russia. The cooperation did not rise to the level of criminality and Mueller made it clear that his decision was made at least in part as a result of the proximity to the election.

 

[benstt]

Good luck with that argument. Computer science has come a long way. Analysts can detect when/if content was changed or added. There's a chain of possession that can be established without any gaps.

You should likely stick to not commenting about computer forensics.

 

[richaceg]

there was no shortage of evidence of actual cooperation between the campaign and Russia. The cooperation did not rise to the level of criminality and Mueller made it clear that his decision was made at least in part as a result of the proximity to the election.

FBI and DOJ are making a fool of themselves...If your story is true...but it's not...It was all nothingburger...

 

[WyattEarp]

You should likely stick to not commenting about computer forensics.

Counterpoints that offer no points are a bit self-indulgent.