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I think If I read the word “agenda” one more time I’m gonna lose my last remaining sole braincell. Please spare me Kings!

But re; the legitimacy of them being trans, is this for real and being investigated or is this being said because they look the way they do? That’s some serious bullshit if real and kinda does a huge disservice to legitimate trans athletes.

I will say that there’s no trans bingo card but in cases like this and in sports there has to be a line drawn. If Lia is competing, she’s past their testing. How does this work?
 

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I will say that there’s no trans bingo card but in cases like this and in sports there has to be a line drawn. If Lia is competing, she’s past their testing. How does this work?
The testing is flawed and political. Welcome to the real world.
 

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The testing is flawed and political. Welcome to the real world.
I’m being a great sport and if you have anything tangible to add feel free!

How is horomone testing and other tests done in labs political? Are there other guidelines i’m not seeing? Can Anyone answer this cause this guy is chemically predisposed to need to dunk on anyone who disagrees with him
 

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I read something about a cis female athlete not passing their gender screening due to high testosterone levels, what then? *grabs popcorn*
 

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Demi Lovato avoids this whole trans issue because she said she is non-binary.
 

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Demi Lovato avoids this whole trans issue because she said she is non-binary.
Demi Lovato avoids this whole trans issue because she said she is non-binary.
Odd because being NB is considered trans. I don’t think she is all there considering she sings to ghosts. Now, idk how I feel about enby
athletes competing in their unbiological category there’s too much room to take advantage of that
 

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I’m being a great sport and if you have anything tangible to add feel free!

How is horomone testing and other tests done in labs political? Are there other guidelines i’m not seeing? Can Anyone answer this cause this guy is chemically predisposed to need to dunk on anyone who disagrees with him
The problem is that biological males have heavy denser bones, larger hearts with a greater lung capacity. No amount of hormones or gender reidentification can change that.

Ergo they are at a competitive advantage over biological females. So when it comes to sports and athletic competition, no they shouldn't be allowed to participate.
 

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The problem is that biological males have heavy denser bones, larger hearts with a greater lung capacity. No amount of hormones or gender reidentification can change that.

Ergo they are at a competitive advantage over biological females. So when it comes to sports and athletic competition, no they shouldn't be allowed to participate.
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I think If I read the word “agenda” one more time I’m gonna lose my last remaining sole braincell. Please spare me Kings!

But re; the legitimacy of them being trans, is this for real and being investigated or is this being said because they look the way they do? That’s some serious bullshit if real and kinda does a huge disservice to legitimate trans athletes.

I will say that there’s no trans bingo card but in cases like this and in sports there has to be a line drawn. If Lia is competing, she’s past their testing. How does this work?
The news link in post #1 stated at Lia is still biologically male, remains sexually attracted to women, and their physical Transformation is a product solely of hormone ingestion. The swimming coach at Penn University has also been described as someone who wants to win 'at any cost'. What Lia is doing is not against the rules pertaining to NCAA athletic competition. This prompted a change of policy; USA Swimming is now the governing body for this intercollegiate sport, (see post #22).

Additional links and comments are in this thread:

 

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Odd because being NB is considered trans. I don’t think she is all there considering she sings to ghosts. Now, idk how I feel about enby
athletes competing in their unbiological category there’s too much room to take advantage of that
This is getting all confusing. All I know is that every female I ever engaged are 120% certain beyond a shadow of a doubt they are 150% female. No ambiguity.
Question: Why does the dog in the pic below have so much excess skin?
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How is horomone testing and other tests done in labs political? Are there other guidelines i’m not seeing? Can Anyone answer this cause this guy is chemically predisposed to need to dunk on anyone who disagrees with him
Yeah there's plenty. But let's set aside the guidelines for a moment and use our eyes. Does anything basic stand out to you, like shoulders, height, body proportion? He doesn't even have to undress for us to see other glaring differences. Stop getting caught in an abstract minefield. It's destructive.

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This is getting all confusing. All I know is that every female I ever engaged are 120% certain beyond a shadow of a doubt they are 150% female. No ambiguity.
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I love sticking my foot in my mouth but to
provide another example of someone who is non
binary is yours truly. I don’t wake up and feel like damn I’m a chick. I won’t get into explaining how I feel. For work I don’t associate myself with being non binary as it’s frankly unimportant and I’d rather us focus on how cool my boobs are. I’m like a human and all that but I’m completely fine with
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Yeah there's plenty. But let's set aside the guidelines for a moment and use our eyes. Does anything basic stand out to you, like shoulders, height, body proportion? He doesn't even have to undress for us to see other glaring differences. Stop getting caught in an abstract minefield. It's destructive.

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Oh no I absolutely would shit my suit if I had to compete against her I won’t deny that. Lacey can have a little political discussion, as a treat.
 

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University of Pennsylvania is Ivy League. Normally, Ivy League schools don't offer athletic scholarships so Miss Thomas must be pretty smart to get in to that school.

But, Elizabeth Warren got into Harvard claiming to be indigenous. Obama got into Harvard because of AA.
 

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I remember she was a complete failure on the women's tour. When he was a male, he was a good but far from a great tennis player and by the time he "converted" I think he was already in his mid 40's and past her prime. An interesting footnote and a sideshow, nothing more.
Yet you postulated that trans players would start entering tennis now.

I do remember Bobby Riggs in his 50's beating Margaret Court and later lost to Billie Jean King but he was allowed only one serve and had to cover the doubles court.
Irrelevant to the discussion of trans athletes.
 
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"Like other Ivy League schools, Penn undergraduate aid is entirely need-based. The University does not award scholarships based on academic or athletic merit".
I was playing amateur psychiatrist. Trying to figure out her motivation.

Obviously it wasn't to try and get an athletic scholarship because ivy league universities don't offer athletic scholarships.

Is it for money? Swimmers don't earn all that much money.
How Much Money Professional Swimmers Really Make - MySwimPro

Is it for glory? Possibly.

Tennis is a big money sport so there is a monetary benefit for a former male, now trans, to compete in the women's tour. There have been trans (or maybe only one tran) in tennis at various levels but none have actually made an impact because they weren't very good and/or are past their best before date.
Trans athletes make great gains, yet resentment still flares | CBC Sports
 
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