Bradford school suspends teen for flying pro-police flag on truck

Valcazar

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But according to the Sun, it's part of the woke culture war against your freedoms.
Isn't everything?

Well it's been going on for about 30 years.
Also clickbait, we are talking the Economist here, not the Sun.
I read the issue, it isn't clickbait, the articles on the topic actually cover what the title says.
The whole "The Leftist attack on Tolerance" is clickbait.
I remember when it was "Politically Correct".
This is all just a reboot of that moral panic.

It would be nice if it stopped working but people love to believe bullshit.
 

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This thread sounds like the kids who got picked on in highschool are standing up for one of their own.
 

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The whole "The Leftist attack on Tolerance" is clickbait.
I remember when it was "Politically Correct".
This is all just a reboot of that moral panic.

It would be nice if it stopped working but people love to believe bullshit.
But it is real and a problem. Just because you call it bullshit doesn't make it bullshit.
 

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What laws did either of them break?
Well, the kid who flew the Thin Blue Line Flag pissed off his H.S. principal. How does "law" come into that?

When I wore pants to high school that were against the dress coat, I wasn't breaking the "law" either. Pants still got banned.
 
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Ok. So I actually looked at some links about this stuff. First off, the Bradford HS website - specifically the school code of conduct.

Standards of Behaviour

3.1 Respect, Civility and Responsible Citizenship

All members of the school community must:
3.1.1 respect and comply with all applicable federal, provincial and municipal laws;
3.1.3 respect differences in people, their ideas and opinions;
3.1.5 respect and treat others fairly, regardless of their race, ancestry, place of
origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, religion, gender, gender identity,
sexual orientation, age or disability;
3.1.6 respect the rights of others;



Now here is a list of sites setting out controversies surrounding the "Thin Blue Line" symbol. This was a super-fast, top tier Google search, just on Canadian news items. (I think I scooped 1 US article). There is still a LOT of stuff about the controversy.











Given the degree of controversy about the flag across Canada, the principal clearly made the correct call to ban the flag as being in breach of the school code of conduct. It's simply too disruptive and controversial

The thin blue line has undertones that go beyond simply supporting the police. There are news items about its use from every city in Canada. It could well be that the kid had the best and purest of intentions, but it's not his call. And as long as the flag provokes blowback from others, it's a defensible decision to ban it on school property.
 

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But it is real and a problem. Just because you call it bullshit doesn't make it bullshit.
Actually if you read the post I just made, it sounds like the principal made the correct call.
 
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Thin blue line

The "thin blue line" is a term that typically refers to the concept of the police as the line which keeps society from descending into violent chaos.[1] The "blue" in "thin blue line" refers to the blue color of the uniforms of many police departments.

The blue line symbol

The phrase originated as an allusion to the British infantry regiment The Thin Red Lineduring the Crimean War in 1854, wherein the regiment of Scottish Highlanders—wearing red uniforms—famously held off a Russian cavalrycharge. Its use referring specifically to the police was popularized by Los Angeles PoliceChief Bill Parker during the 1950s; author and police officer Joseph Wambaugh in the 1970s, by which time "thin blue line" was used across the United States;[2] and Errol Morris's documentary The Thin Blue Line (1988).[3]

The "thin blue line" has been appropriated by the "Blue Lives Matter" movement, which began December 2014, after the homicides of NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in Brooklyn, New York, in the wake of the homicides of Eric Garner and Michael Brown Jrearlier that year and in the context of the greater Black Lives Matter movement.[4][5][6] The "thin blue line" has also been associated with white nationalists in the US, particularly after the Unite the Right rally in 2017.[7][8]

Thin Blue Line- Wikipedia
 
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Actually if you read the post I just made, it sounds like the principal made the correct call.
Except I wasn't replying to you but to someone else and his objections to claims made by the Economist magazine which did not address this specific case. [Not that one case proves or disproves anything of course]

Me thinks you are so vain because you think my post is about you. ;)

 

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The "thin blue line" is a term that typically refers to the concept of the police as the line which keeps society from descending into violent chaos.[1] The "blue" in "thin blue line" refers to the blue color of the uniforms of many police departments.
I always took the thin blue line as how pork tends to look out for pork.

Also just because racists have taken the concept doesn't make it racist. I mean Hitler was right, donuts are delicious but fuck it, I'll still eat them even though I think he is a rather unpleasant fellow.
 

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Except I wasn't replying to you but to someone else and his objections to claims made by the Economist magazine which did not address this specific case. [Not that one case proves or disproves anything of course]

Me thinks you are so vain because you think my post is about you. ;)
Well, I WAS Warren Beatty in another life!

And yes, Faye Dunaway DID give better on set blowjobs than Julie Christie, but you probably guessed that anyway.
 

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I always took the thin blue line as how pork tends to look out for pork.

Also just because racists have taken the concept doesn't make it racist. I mean Hitler was right, donuts are delicious but fuck it, I'll still eat them even though I think he is a rather unpleasant fellow.
The pork looking after pork and the racism surrounding it are inseparable.
 
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Well, the kid who flew the Thin Blue Line Flag pissed off his H.S. principal. How does "law" come into that?

When I wore pants to high school that were against the dress coat, I wasn't breaking the "law" either. Pants still got banned.
What kinda pants were you wearing that got banned, tho?

LOL
 

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Ok. So I actually looked at some links about this stuff. First off, the Bradford HS website - specifically the school code of conduct.

Standards of Behaviour

3.1 Respect, Civility and Responsible Citizenship

All members of the school community must:
3.1.1 respect and comply with all applicable federal, provincial and municipal laws;
3.1.3 respect differences in people, their ideas and opinions;
3.1.5 respect and treat others fairly, regardless of their race, ancestry, place of
origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, religion, gender, gender identity,
sexual orientation, age or disability;
3.1.6 respect the rights of others;



Now here is a list of sites setting out controversies surrounding the "Thin Blue Line" symbol. This was a super-fast, top tier Google search, just on Canadian news items. (I think I scooped 1 US article). There is still a LOT of stuff about the controversy.











Given the degree of controversy about the flag across Canada, the principal clearly made the correct call to ban the flag as being in breach of the school code of conduct. It's simply too disruptive and controversial

The thin blue line has undertones that go beyond simply supporting the police. There are news items about its use from every city in Canada. It could well be that the kid had the best and purest of intentions, but it's not his call. And as long as the flag provokes blowback from others, it's a defensible decision to ban it on school property.
According to the schools own guidelines then the principal is in violation of 3.1.3. and 3.1.6. in my opinion for suspending this particular student for the particular reason given.
The principal should be made to apologize to the student for those violations.
Personally I would like to see the principal fired.
 
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