Bradford school suspends teen for flying pro-police flag on truck

mandrill

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You KNOW if he was asked to take down a Rainbow-Trans-BLM flag there would be a HUGE backlash with people marching on the school,media slut polticians (WONG) on tv denouncing the school etc.
I don't think anyone would bother to march. This is pretty small stuff.

OTOH, the rainbow and trans flags are pretty accepted in this country and are no longer controversial - except perhaps w the 5% of people who vote PPC. So "false equivalency" here. The rainbow flag has been accepted and mainstream for 20 years or more. Not sure about BLM in this country.
 

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It wasn't based on the schools code either.
Just the principals opinion.
Except..... the principal (and perhaps the school board) interprets the school's code. That's his job. That's what he's there to do.
 
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would he get the same treatment if he flew a "BLM" flag?
IDK. That's a hypothetical.

Why?.... Is it important to you that he can fly your team's flag, but not the other team's flag?

He's a high school student and it's school rules. It's not a major political free speech ruling. The Sun has found something tiny and trivial they can use as "this week's culture war" and all you guys are getting bent out of shape.
 
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IDK. That's a hypothetical.

Why?.... Is it important to you that he can fly your team's flag, but not the other team's flag?

He's a high school student and it's school rules. It's not a major political free speech ruling. The Sun has found something tiny and trivial they can use as "this week's culture war" and all you guys are getting bent out of shape.
the principal is getting bent out of shape if he's suspending the kid for 3 days....why not 1?
 

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I believe it was one.
So last Thursday, Friday and Monday, he was out of school — not for getting in a fight, or bringing drugs or a weapon to school, but because he believes in law and order.
 

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So last Thursday, Friday and Monday, he was out of school — not for getting in a fight, or bringing drugs or a weapon to school, but because he believes in law and order.
ALL of this stuff - including how you characterize what he did - has been discussed AT LENGTH earlier in this thread - including my own comments. Go read those, please.

You're saying stuff that has been said already on several occasions and I am not responding.
 
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ALL of this stuff - including how you characterize what he did - has been discussed AT LENGTH earlier in this thread - including my own comments. Go read those, please.

You're saying stuff that has been said already on several occasions and I am not responding.
I just paste the stuff that it's 3 days...not 1...which to me was over the top, other than that, I agree with you that the Principal still has to make sure the school rules are to be followed....
 

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He's a high school student and it's school rules.
Again, read the article. It isn't School Rules. There are no published rules that the kid broke by flying that flag.
And, according to the Mother, the Principal still has not communicated the justification or the reason for the original order to remove the flag, other than there being a complaint.
Which validates the postulation of the hypothetical situation, if there was a complaint made by someone if the kid was flying the Pride Flag, would the Principal still have taken the same action?
It is highly unlikely.

And if that is true. There is a discrepancy in the application of the rules based on what?
Nothing in the Published rules for the School.
No official protocols communicated to the family by the Principal.
Nothing but the Principal's own bias.
 

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Again, read the article. It isn't School Rules. There are no published rules that the kid broke by flying that flag.
And, according to the Mother, the Principal still has not communicated the justification or the reason for the original order to remove the flag, other than there being a complaint.
Which validates the postulation of the hypothetical situation, if there was a complaint made by someone if the kid was flying the Pride Flag, would the Principal still have taken the same action?
It is highly unlikely.

And if that is true. There is a discrepancy in the application of the rules based on what?
Nothing in the Published rules for the School.
No official protocols communicated to the family by the Principal.
Nothing but the Principal's own bias.
This has all been discussed already.

No one wants to keep responding to the same points over and over again.
 

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This has all been discussed already.

No one wants to keep responding to the same points over and over again.
Then stop stating things as fact that haven't been substantiated or are just your own theories, over and over again.
You stated it was school rules as to why he was asked to remove the flag.
Not true according to the article and the Mother. Where are you getting this from.
You keep pushing the argument that it was because the flag was controversial.
Again, not substantiated by any information in the article, this is just a theory you pulled out of thin air.
 

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Then stop stating things as fact that haven't been substantiated or are just your own theories, over and over again.
You stated it was school rules as to why he was asked to remove the flag.
Not true according to the article and the Mother. Where are you getting this from.
You keep pushing the argument that it was because the flag was controversial.
Again, not substantiated by any information in the article, this is just a theory you pulled out of thin air.
No. It's all set out my prior posts with about a dozen links.
 

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No. It's all set out my prior posts with about a dozen links.
You have no links that show the school has any policy in place requiring the removal of symbols that may or may not be deemed controversial.
Your speculation that this is the reason the Principal made this demand is simply that. Speculation on your part. Nothing More.
 

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You have no links that show the school has any policy in place requiring the removal of symbols that may or may not be deemed controversial.
Your speculation that this is the reason the Principal made this demand is simply that. Speculation on your part. Nothing More.
Let's go through this.

1. Kid shows up with Thin Blue Line Flag.

2. There are AMPLE news articles that show the TBLF is considered "controversial".

3. Principal gets complaint.

4. Principal tells kid to ditch flag when on school property.

This isn't rocket science. What is your explanation?.... Principal doesn't like the colour blue?
 

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Let's go through this.

1. Kid shows up with Thin Blue Line Flag.

2. There are AMPLE news articles that show the TBLF is considered "controversial".

3. Principal gets complaint.

4. Principal tells kid to ditch flag when on school property.

This isn't rocket science. What is your explanation?.... Principal doesn't like the colour blue?
With the recent discovery of mass graves at Native Schools sites, the Canadian Flag is quite controversial right now.
I highly doubt the principal would have demanded the Canadian Flag be removed if there was a complaint.

The only reason given, to the Kid his parents and the news article, is that there was a complaint. Your theory of controversy is just that a theory.
Stop presenting it as if it were fact in your disagreement with other people.
 

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With the recent discovery of mass graves at Native Schools sites, the Canadian Flag is quite controversial right now.
I highly doubt the principal would have demanded the Canadian Flag be removed if there was a complaint.

The only reason given, to the Kid his parents and the news article, is that there was a complaint. Your theory of controversy is just that a theory.
Stop presenting it as if it were fact in your disagreement with other people.
SMH.
:rolleyes:
 

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the principal is getting bent out of shape if he's suspending the kid for 3 days....why not 1?
In HS in the late 60's I skipped 2 days When I returned I got sent to the PO and I was told I need to attend school to learn and should not be so flippant in my attendance It was May,my ONLY skipping the whole year. Long story short I was suspended 4 days. My dad called the Principal and the Board Trustee arguing IF my attendance is SO important WHY was I being suspended?? The Trustee reversed the suspension and the Principal I heard was written up for a foolish decision. I did however had early morning detention 8:00 am before school for a week which was no big deal ,we lived a block from the school.
 
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