Bradford school suspends teen for flying pro-police flag on truck

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I doubt it's ideology based, so much as "Holy shit! Someone's complaining about my school and I better do something" based.

Or the principal glanced at the Wiki article - like me - and decided that if something was "controversial", he better make sure it didn't happen.

And the Gay Pride flag hasn't been "controversial" for over a decade. FFS Hockey Night in Canada makes gay hockey players part of its inclusion commercial break nowadays.

This is basically "Let's find something to whine about. And let's whine twice as hard if we can argue that 'the other guys' got to fly their flag and we didn't!" This is the usual tempest in a teapot dressed up as Culture War because people are self important whiners. Kid can take the flag off the car when he goes to school and fly it on the weekends. Is that such a crushing blow to Western democracy?!

You ever have to do something in high school that probably wasn't strictly equitable, but the principal was a dick and you had to go along with it?..... Did the Western Way of Life survive anyway, even if you couldn't wear those pants or those shoes or whatever. This is the same shit.
So the Principal of a school honestly buys into and believes that the Police, a Civil Service department that every municipality has, is a controversial organization, and you say that isn't ideological?

Give your head a shake. You were reaching before. I'm surprised you didn't dislocate your arm with this argument.
 
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So the Principal of a school honestly buys into and believes that the Police, a Civil Service department that every municipality has, is a controversial organization, and you say that isn't ideological?

Give your head a shake. You were reaching before. I'm surprised you didn't dislocate your arm with this argument.
No. Not what I said.

The FLAG is controversial. Not the police. Gotta read carefully. And like I said, I'm just quoting wiki.
 
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So it isn't ideology based?
Really?

Why did the Principal tell the kid to stop flying the flag? Because someone complained? That is not sufficient reason. Especially if it didn't break any School policies.
Have you met School principals?
Half of them don't need a reason.

But that also isn't the point.

Which means this whole incident started due to the ideology of the Principal, and the Principal's desire to push these cultural beliefs over others.
This is your reading into it and we don't actually know that yet.
According to at least some of the reports, the suspension wasn't for flying the flag.
The suspension was for not obeying the principal.
There are lots of school principals who are tin-pot little fucking dictators.

But getting you mad that "you can't even support the police anymore" is the goal of these reports and the OP.

I doubt it's ideology based, so much as "Holy shit! Someone's complaining about my school and I better do something" based.

Or the principal glanced at the Wiki article - like me - and decided that if something was "controversial", he better make sure it didn't happen.
Exactly.

Maybe we will find out that actually this Principal is a committed ideologue after all - we just don't actually know that right now.

This is basically "Let's find something to whine about. And let's whine twice as hard if we can argue that 'the other guys' got to fly their flag and we didn't!" This is the usual tempest in a teapot dressed up as Culture War because people are self important whiners. Kid can take the flag off the car when he goes to school and fly it on the weekends. Is that such a crushing blow to Western democracy?!

You ever have to do something in high school that probably wasn't strictly equitable, but the principal was a dick and you had to go along with it?..... Did the Western Way of Life survive anyway, even if you couldn't wear those pants or those shoes or whatever. This is the same shit.
Fuck, I know people who got suspended for "insubordination" because they mouthed off to the wrong teacher who wanted them to change their shirt.
 

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Actually the Economist had an issue focusing and his point recently.
"Free speech is being threatened at every turn by leftist ideology. Which has been infecting educational domains now for decades. "

Very disturbing reading.

Yeah, some version of this gets rewritten every two or three years or so. Been doing it for thirty years.
Just clickbait.
 

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So the Principal of a school honestly buys into and believes that the Police, a Civil Service department that every municipality has, is a controversial organization, and you say that isn't ideological?
No.
The "thin blue line" flag is.
To the point the RCMP discourages officers from wearing it.

Some police chiefs in the USA are banning it (at least one tried)
 
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That makes this sound a LOT more like "asshole petty tyrant principal doesn't like being talked back to" that then got caught up in culture war bullshit because EVERYTHING does now.
But according to the Sun, it's part of the woke culture war against your freedoms.
 
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So the Principal of a school honestly buys into and believes that the Police, a Civil Service department that every municipality has, is a controversial organization, and you say that isn't ideological?

Give your head a shake. You were reaching before. I'm surprised you didn't dislocate your arm with this argument.
Blue Line has been used in some cases as a specific attack on the BLM movement and in support of cops who have killed black people so yes, there can be controversy about it.

But it seems the principal suspended the kid based on ego. I'm sure there would be better ways to manage potential concerns.
 

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Once again, that is hyperbole. Every turn?
Hyperbole is a perfectly cromulent oratorical device. Usually in that context folk know it is more figurative than literal. At least that is how I read it.
 

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Yeah, some version of this gets rewritten every two or three years or so. Been doing it for thirty years.
Just clickbait.
Well it's been going on for about 30 years.
Also clickbait, we are talking the Economist here, not the Sun.
I read the issue, it isn't clickbait, the articles on the topic actually cover what the title says.
 

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The Thin Blue Line flag represents the police standing together in support of one another against the public. It is an ideology that supports the police covering up one another’s crime and racism. It has become a symbol of racism sanctioned by law enforcement. The kid should be expelled.
 

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The Thin Blue Line flag represents the police standing together in support of one another against the public. It is an ideology that supports the police covering up one another’s crime and racism. It has become a symbol of racism sanctioned by law enforcement. The kid should be expelled.
Your opinion of what it means is moot.
 
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