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Toronto hospital network to require organ transplant patients to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19

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TORONTO -- Canada’s largest transplant centre has enacted a precedent-setting policy requiring that patients be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to be considered for a life-saving organ transplant.

The decision – one carefully debated by doctors at Toronto’s University Health Network (UHN) – affects some 4,300 Canadians waiting for a donor organ to become available, as well as those who come after them.

“From a medical point of view, we all felt quite strongly that this was needed. So, we've been having a lot of discussion on how best to formulate this policy,” Dr. Atul Humar, director of UHN’s Ajmera Transplant Centre, told CTV National News.


“It was actually a very complex discussion. We had ethical input; we had input from medical leaders and experts in the field.”

Organ transplant recipients face unique risks posed by COVID-19.

While any type of surgery puts stress on a patient’s immune system, leaving them more vulnerable to contracting a virus like COVID-19, organ transplant recipients have an even greater risk thanks to the powerful regime of anti-rejection drugs they need to take in to suppress their immune system to keep their body from rejecting the new organ.
Not only are these patients’ immune systems compromised, they face greater risks of complications and death from COVID-19.

“There is ample research to support that the best course of action is to vaccinate individuals prior to transplant, whenever possible,” reads a statement from UHN regarding the decision.

“Just as with other medical requirements, the COVID-19 vaccination helps ensure best possible outcome for our patients.”
According to statistics provided by UHN, unvaccinated patients face a 12-per-cent higher risk of organ rejection and a 30 per cent greater chance of dying from COVID-19 – risks Humar says is far too great to risk squandering a precious resource.

“Remember, the organ is really a scarce resource. It's something donated by another human being. And really, we have to go to all efforts to try to make sure the patient does well, but also that the organ is well cared for,” he said.

The policy is not far-fetched when you consider the rigorous requirements patients already have to meet in order to be listed for a transplant.
“You can't be actively drinking and be listed for a liver transplant you can't actively be smoking and be listed for a lung transplant and this is the same kind of thing really,” Humar explained.
And while it may be the first of its kind in Canada, the requirement has already stirred up a life or death debate in the U.S.
Colorado woman Leilani Lutali, a born-again Christian with stage 5 kidney disease, was denied a life-saving kidney transplant because she says she cannot agree to be vaccinated on religious grounds.
Lutali, who had lined up her own donor, says both she and the donor were removed from the transplant list.
“It feels a little bit like my transplant is being held hostage and there's only one decision that I'm being left with,” she told CTV National News.
While UHN’s policy only came into effect Friday, Humar says the hospital has given careful consideration to those who may be vaccine hesitant, including an educational process to help people understand vaccines.
“The good news is that there are very, very few patients who refuse vaccination,” he said. “Once they have proper education, once they understand what a transplant involves and the risks related to immunosuppression, then most of them actually agree to get vaccinated.
Maude Laberge, a health equity and policy analysis expert at Laval University, says policies like these are not about making a judgment on people's decision, but ensuring health-care resources, which are already overstretched, are used effectively.
"From a perspective of wanting to use our healthcare resources... to allocate them to the patients that are most likely going to benefit from them, it makes sense to require the vaccine," she told CTV National News.

"This is not about making a value judgment on people's lifestyle or habits or whatever, but more about their capacity to benefit from the intervention."
It’s unclear just how many hospitals in North America have enacted transplant vaccination policies.
The American Hospital Association, which represents nearly 5,000 hospitals, health care systems and networks in the United States, told The Associated Press it did not have data to share on the issue. But it said many transplant programs insist that patients get vaccinated for COVID-19 because of the weakened state of their immune system.
Humar admits that this is new territory for health care providers; that it would be up to each individual transplant program to decide what is best for their patients.
“Certainly, many other programs are very seriously looking at this,” he said.
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I will now sign my donor card knowing this!

Well done, I'm hoping more and more of this becomes the norm.
 

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It's actually sound medical policy. Why perform an expensive, staff intensive, complex medical procedure on a patient who may well contract COVID while at the hospital in a weakened state post-op and die?
 

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I’m out. That is disgusting. Forcing between to choose between a vaccine or life.
You have the right to your opinion but in my opinion, the pandemic does result in life or death for some.

The majority of Canadians have had enough of the bullshit coming from first anti maskers and now anti vaxxers.
 

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It's actually sound medical policy. Why perform an expensive, staff intensive, complex medical procedure on a patient who may well contract COVID while at the hospital in a weakened state post-op and die?

no it's not it is illegal tyo deny medical care. are you aware that these are illegal under Canadian law and internal agreements and are potential war crimes and crimes against humanity?

i like the fact that these mandates are acutally revealing people's true colors. it's like the sheep and goats that jesus mentioned in the Gospels

Matthew 25

The Sheep and the Goats

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”



looking forward to a Future Nuremberg 2
 
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no it's not it is illegal tyo deny medical care. are you aware that these are illegal under Canadian law and internal agreements and are potential war crimes and crimes against humanity?

i like the fact that these mandates are acutally revealing people's true colors. it's like the sheep and goats that jesus mentioned in the Gospels

Matthew 25

The Sheep and the Goats

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”



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Thank you, you made me spit out my coffee cracking up!!! LMFAO
 

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no it's not it is illegal tyo deny medical care. are you aware that these are illegal under Canadian law and internal agreements and are potential war crimes and crimes against humanity?

i like the fact that these mandates are acutally revealing people's true colors. it's like the sheep and goats that jesus mentioned in the Gospels

Matthew 25

The Sheep and the Goats

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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The sheep and the goats are just part of the big conspiracy, CM. Like the horses and the bulls.

It's all about cornering the world's supply of ivermectin and raising the price.
 

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I’m out. That is disgusting. Forcing between to choose between a vaccine or life.
Agreed. This is a blatant violation of the Hippocratic oath. The medical establishment should be utterly ashamed of itself. 😡
 
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The sheep and the goats are just part of the big conspiracy, CM. Like the horses and the ducks.



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I’m out. That is disgusting. Forcing between to choose between a vaccine or life.
I don't know if you've followed that case of the Colorado woman who was denied a life saving kidney transplant because she's not vaccinated. Her donor has agreed to give her a kidney regardless of her vaccination status. To deny her this transplant is nothing short of evil.
 
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I don't know if you've followed that case of the Colorado woman who was denied a life saving kidney transplant because she's not vaccinated. Her donor has agreed to give her a kidney regardless of her vaccination status. To deny her this transplant is nothing short of evil.
Not only evil, but completely devoid of compassion and COMPLETELY unethical. WTF happened to "first do no harm"? If she survives she should hire a good law firm and go to a civil trial before the jury and send those motherfuckers into the poor house.
 

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Stop the fucking presses.

Making unhealthy choices that limit survivability could lead to you having a longer wait for an organ transplant?

Who knew?

I imagine when the anti-science folk that are in-need realize the medical intervention needed to prevent tissue or organ rejection isn’t Ivermectin, Vitamin D, and essential oils that they’d want off the list.
 

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Stop the fucking presses.

Making unhealthy choices that limit survivability could lead to you having a longer wait for an organ transplant?

Who knew?
There's massive ethical debate about the criteria for the waiting list, as I'm sure you know.
The waiting list rules are very strict and lots of things get you sent to the back of the line.
 

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There's massive ethical debate about the criteria for the waiting list, as I'm sure you know.
The waiting list rules are very strict and lots of things get you sent to the back of the line.
Like being unvaxxed??? I would think so.

smoker, back of the line
alcoholic, back of the line
drug user, back of the line
unvaxxed, back back back back of the line.
 

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Normally I consider your posts to be thoughtful and intelligent. HOWEVER YOU ARE IN LEFT FIELD ON THIS.
No it is you who is in left field....way out there.
 
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