Toronto hospital network to require organ transplant patients to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19

[Valcazar]

Or they’ll say “wait a minute, we did something wrong here, we’re losing thousands of donors, let’s right that wrong.”

You need to make it a big public stink in that case. Make it really public and have lots of people join in.
And then all that happens is that one hospital that's doing it just folds the policy into "medical survival risk" instead of a separate line and goes on as before.
The "we will threaten to make sure more people die unless you do what we want" approach didn't really work for MwM blood donation ban because most people who care about the issue aren't sociopaths, and I suspect it won't work here.

 

[Valcazar]

The vaccine does not work.

Which one doesn't work, according to you?

 

[mandrill]

And while it may be the first of its kind in Canada, the requirement has already stirred up a life or death debate in the U.S.
Colorado woman Leilani Lutali, a born-again Christian with stage 5 kidney disease, was denied a life-saving kidney transplant because she says she cannot agree to be vaccinated on religious grounds.
Lutali, who had lined up her own donor, says both she and the donor were removed from the transplant list.
“It feels a little bit like my transplant is being held hostage and there's only one decision that I'm being left with,” she told CTV National News.

So what is the Born again edict on organ transplants? What line was just crossed in her mind?

Well, look on the bright side. St Peter will usher her into the Realm of Everlasting Joy in just a few months while the rest of us will go to be endlessly vaccinated with massive metre long needles full of fire by Satan for having fucked around and got vaxxed on earth.

She should be happy.

 

[sp free]

You need to make it a big public stink in that case. Make it really public and have lots of people join in.
And then all that happens is that one hospital that's doing it just folds the policy into "medical survival risk" instead of a separate line and goes on as before.
The "we will threaten to make sure more people die unless you do what we want" approach didn't really work for MwM blood donation ban because most people who care about the issue aren't sociopaths, and I suspect it won't work here.

“We will threaten to make sure more people die unless you do what we want”…is what the hospital network is doing.

Not me.

 

[Butler1000]

Do you know why I'm not worried about this? Because anyone who is in need of a tranaplant fully understands the immune suppressants they need to take will leave the compromised and will happily follow all directives of their doctors to try to keep them safe. For all they are about to go through you won't find a single transplant patient who will give a second thought to it.

So I'm betting all transplant patients would tell all these advocates to go fuck themselves for making things worse for them.

 

[Jenesis]

I don’t think the program will change their policy. I’m not that self centred that I think that high of myself.

I am just refusing to support that policy with my organs. I will leave them for science to take apart and learn from instead.

 

[Valcazar]

“We will threaten to make sure more people die unless you do what we want”…is what the hospital network is doing.

Not me.

Sorry, no.
There is a shortage of transplant organs.
The hospital cannot make more people die via this, they can only triage among those who get it.
If 5 people need organs and the hospital has 2, then deciding on a different 2 doesn't cause more people to die.
You making sure the hospital only has 1 organ to give, though, does cause more people to die.

Own your choice.

(Of course, this is only one hospital network so unless you absolutely know that your organs would go to this hospital network all you are doing is denying organs to people at a hospital that isn't using vaccination status as criteria.)

 

[Valcazar]

the vaccines do nothing.

All of them? No matter how they are made or what technology is used?
What an interesting reality you live in.

 

[malata]

the vaccines do nothing.

me just takes vitamin c gum bears for me cold

 

[Butler1000]

the vaccines do nothing.

I'm truly astonished by the ignorance of basic science displayed. Enjoy your time at home.

 

[massman]

Or they’ll say “wait a minute, we did something wrong here, we’re losing thousands of donors, let’s right that wrong.”

The vaccine does not work.

This is actually a lie. Vaccine works very well. Why TF do you think these transplant doctors are insisting on it if it doesn’t work????

 

[canada-man]

This is actually a lie. Vaccine works very well. Why TF do you think these transplant doctors are insisting on it if it doesn’t work????

corona vaccines does not prevent infection and transmission


CDC: COVID vaccines won’t stop transmission; Fully vaccinated can still get, spread Delta strain | National | stardem.com

 

[massman]

corona vaccines does not prevent infection and transmission


CDC: COVID vaccines won’t stop transmission; Fully vaccinated can still get, spread Delta strain | National | stardem.com

Yes they do. You can get and spread COVID-19, but MUCH less likely than unvaccinated

 

[canada-man]

Yes they do. You can get and spread COVID-19, but MUCH less likely than unvaccinated

Yes they do. You can get and spread COVID-19, but MUCH less likely than unvaccinated

then explain Gibraltar and Israel

 

[massman]

then explain Gibraltar and Israel

Why did Israel’s covid rate plummet after the first vaccinations then?
Most feel that increasing transmission in those countries are due to 1. Waning immunity (ie will need booster) and 2. The inevitable relaxing (even complete elimination) of public health measures.
There is very good evidence from observational studies that vaccination can reduce (while not completely eliminating) infection and transmission. Infected vaccinated individuals shed less virus, shed virus for a shorter period of time, and get less sick, therefore cough less etc which enhances spread.

 

[sp free]

Why did Israel’s covid rate plummet after the first vaccinations then?
Most feel that increasing transmission in those countries are due to 1. Waning immunity (ie will need booster) and 2. The inevitable relaxing (even complete elimination) of public health measures.
There is very good evidence from observational studies that vaccination can reduce (while not completely eliminating) infection and transmission. Infected vaccinated individuals shed less virus, shed virus for a shorter period of time, and get less sick, therefore cough less etc which enhances spread.

Tell me you watch CNN without telling me you watch CNN.

 

[SchlongConery]

Tell me you watch CNN without telling me you watch CNN.

Tell me you studied for your Immunologist's specialty in medical school from what you get fed on Facebook... lol

 

[squeezer]

then explain Gibraltar and Israel

Tell me you watch CNN without telling me you watch CNN.

Larry and Curly are here, my question is where is Moe?

 

[seagerbuzz]

Agreed. This is a blatant violation of the Hippocratic oath. The medical establishment should be utterly ashamed of itself.

The problem with the medical establishment is that it's not govern by doctors

Tell me you watch CNN without telling me you watch CNN.

If he hates Tucker Carlson then he watches CNN.

 

[squeezer]

The problem with the medical establishment is that it's not govern by doctors


If he hates Tucker Carlson then he watches CNN.

Larry and Curly are here, my question is where is Moe?

Right on cue.

Now we have the all the 3 stooges here to entertain us.