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Are there still naysayers over the delayed 2nd shot plan?

nottyboi

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the reasons are against the manufactures instructions the government made the decision with ZERO evidence it was ok to do so
Well if this was the very first vaccine in history I might agree with you. Do you by any chance know why the manufacturers went with the recommendations they made?
 

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Well if this was the very first vaccine in history I might agree with you. Do you by any chance know why the manufacturers went with the recommendations they made?
The manufactures stuck by the schedule they made because that’s the testing that was done in their labs and that dosing schedule is what all the governments approved when the drugs were approved
 

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The manufactures stuck by the schedule they made because that’s the testing that was done in their labs and that dosing schedule is what all the governments approved when the drugs were approved
WRONG, they tested one dose, then several weeks later some were given a second dose, others a placebo. The efficacy rate of the single dose did not appear to be very good. But when a very smart lady in the BC public health system looked at the data, she noticed that the stats after 2 weeks with one dose were actually pretty darn good. This is why BC was one of the first to go with the one dose priority. They vaxxed all their LTC residents with one dose while DOFO was "holding back doses" for the second dose. The result CARNAGE in DUMBTARIO.
 
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WRONG, they tested one dose, then several weeks later some were given a second dose, others a placebo. The efficacy rate of the single dose did not appear to be very good. But when a very smart lady in the BC public health system looked at the data, she noticed that the stats after 2 weeks with one dose were actually pretty darn good. This is why BC was one of the first to go with the one dose priority. They vaxxed all their LTC residents with one dose while DOFO was "holding back doses" for the second dose. The result CARNAGE in DUMBTARIO.
Actually you’re wrong Doug Ford had nothing to do with the testing of vaccines that’s federal the drugs were approved based on the intervals of the doses Which were determined by the manufacturer the federal government because they dropped the ball just made up their own dates no one else in the world stretch the second dose as far as Canada did
 

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Actually you’re wrong Doug Ford had nothing to do with the testing of vaccines that’s federal the drugs were approved based on the intervals of the doses Which were determined by the manufacturer the federal government because they dropped the ball just made up their own dates no one else in the world stretch the second dose as far as Canada did
Yes the Feds were responsible for guidance, provinces do not need to follow as BC and QC did. Because the ON decided it was better to hold back doses in case of 2 dose supply issues, instead of getting as many LTC residents vaxxed ASAP, thousands DIED. The Feds accepted the manufacturers testing data, but like ALL DRUGS, field use data was used to expand the usage guidelines to provide more options. Canada did not really strech the doses that far, they allowed a MAX of 4 months, but I doubt anyone will need to wait that long. I got mine just over 2 m. Bottom line, this allowed Canada to get 1st shots in many more arms and has allowed us to bring the pandemic under control much faster. i.e it worked yet you cons are still whining about a HUGE SUCCESS STORY. The numbers are the numbers are the numbers. SUCK IT UP.
 

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Yes the Feds were responsible for guidance, provinces do not need to follow as BC and QC did. Because the ON decided it was better to hold back doses in case of 2 dose supply issues, instead of getting as many LTC residents vaxxed ASAP, thousands DIED. The Feds accepted the manufacturers testing data, but like ALL DRUGS, field use data was used to expand the usage guidelines to provide more options. Canada did not really strech the doses that far, they allowed a MAX of 4 months, but I doubt anyone will need to wait that long. I got mine just over 2 m. Bottom line, this allowed Canada to get 1st shots in many more arms and has allowed us to bring the pandemic under control much faster. i.e it worked yet you cons are still whining about a HUGE SUCCESS STORY. The numbers are the numbers are the numbers. SUCK IT UP.
They are all to miserably partisan to ever admit when something is done right by someone they are told to hate.
 
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They are all to miserably partisan to ever admit when something is done right by someone they are told to hate.
Says the guy who defends the liberals no matter what they do and supports defends and makes excuses for Ha Designated Terrorists group hamas

also Frank no one tells me what to do and when to do it I have never liked the liberals never have never will
 

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Yes the Feds were responsible for guidance, provinces do not need to follow as BC and QC did. Because the ON decided it was better to hold back doses in case of 2 dose supply issues, instead of getting as many LTC residents vaxxed ASAP, thousands DIED. The Feds accepted the manufacturers testing data, but like ALL DRUGS, field use data was used to expand the usage guidelines to provide more options. Canada did not really strech the doses that far, they allowed a MAX of 4 months, but I doubt anyone will need to wait that long. I got mine just over 2 m. Bottom line, this allowed Canada to get 1st shots in many more arms and has allowed us to bring the pandemic under control much faster. i.e it worked yet you cons are still whining about a HUGE SUCCESS STORY. The numbers are the numbers are the numbers. SUCK IT UP.
We don’t know if it was a huge success storey we don’t know the effects the drugs were tested based on a 21 day dose interval not some for months bullshit the liberals made up that even the manufacturer is dead set against why would the manufacture be against it because there’s no evidence it’s OK to do so
 

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We don’t know if it was a huge success storey we don’t know the effects the drugs were tested based on a 21 day dose interval not some for months bullshit the liberals made up that even the manufacturer is dead set against why would the manufacture be against it because there’s no evidence it’s OK to do so
Give it up, let go of hanging on to your hopes that Canada faces a disaster. All the data is proving your dreams of disaster to be a feint hope. The manufacturer is not dead set against it. The just won't revise it as there will be a) delayed revenue b) additional cost of certifying changes. So why would they do it? Also if the immunity of delay is stronger then they don't get to sell booster shots. Many you Righties just cannot see the game. Clueless.
 
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Supply was driven by a worldwide shortage, nothing ANYONE can do to fix that issue. In light of that reality the 4 wk delay was the best possible option. This is all you get in govt. A lot of non ideal options. Expiry dates are set based on typical data, test verify of that data is correct or not after real world situations present. All these realities are part of a global screamble for vaccine, which considiering Canadas small nation status among giants, the govt did very well. Adapting and changing to deliver an excellent result and saving many lives in the process. Most of the vaccines in arms are Pfizer and Moderna, which is the gold standard. Hardly beggars. I got a AZ/Moderna mix, which I am very happy with and it should deliver even better resistance then a 2x of any single vax.
I can’t make head or tails of what you wrote here. I tried reading this a couple times and all I see is blah verbal diarrhea. Are you just trying to defend the Liberals?

They did the best they can. They would have never done any better.
 

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Give it up, let go of hanging on to your hopes that Canada faces a disaster. All the data is proving your dreams of disaster to be a feint hope. The manufacturer is not dead set against it. The just won't revise it as there will be a) delayed revenue b) additional cost of certifying changes. So why would they do it? Also if the immunity of delay is stronger then they don't get to sell booster shots. Many you Righties just cannot see the game. Clueless.
its not a right or left thing its a FACT the government made 4 months because they fucked up and couldn't get shots

the manufacture knows MORE about the product then the government

the manufacture sells 2 shots either way so nice try

the manufacture still says 21 days
 
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We have done well in the last 6 weeks when supply became plentiful, no one can argue that. I would be more impressed If the drama teacher had given the impression he knew what is going on sooner instead of publicly saying, as late as mid-April, it wouldn't be until October before we had enough vaccine for everyone to be double jabbed.
 
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nottyboi

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its not a right or left thing its a FACT the government made 4 months because they fucked up and couldn't get shots

the manufacture knows MORE about the product then the government

the manufacture sells 2 shots either way so nice try

the manufacture still says 21 days
How did they fuck up in not getting the shots? Lots of countries could not get the shots. Even the UK with significant domestic vaccine production put in a 90 day interval. Notice some shot mixing happening.. so Pfizer is losing business to Modena now. Do you think Pfizer is getting paid for that Moderna shot lol.
 

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How did they fuck up in not getting the shots? Lots of countries could not get the shots. Even the UK with significant domestic vaccine production put in a 90 day interval. Notice some shot mixing happening.. so Pfizer is losing business to Modena now. Do you think Pfizer is getting paid for that Moderna shot lol.
The liberals have bumbled through this they couldn’t make decisions the ones they made they reversed. And they did not get the shots till late and then not enough approx 200 million Americans have 2 shots and Canada? Not even a few million with two shots Whether Pfizer is getting paid or not has nothing to do with delaying the doses for four months that was done because the liberals were in a mad panic because they fucked up Pfizer and moderna both never agreed to the extended second shot
 

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The liberals have bumbled through this they couldn’t make decisions the ones they made they reversed. And they did not get the shots till late and then not enough approx 200 million Americans have 2 shots and Canada? Not even a few million with two shots Whether Pfizer is getting paid or not has nothing to do with delaying the doses for four months that was done because the liberals were in a mad panic because they fucked up Pfizer and moderna both never agreed to the extended second shot
Did you get your second shot ahead of schedule. I know I did and most folks I know did! They've done great and we are still farther ahead in the fight against COVID with fewer deaths per capita.
 
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Did you get your second shot ahead of schedule. I know I did and most folks I know did! They've done great and we are still farther ahead in the fight against COVID with fewer deaths per capita.
Yes but only by 2 weeks I was 90ish days between shots that’s 70 ish days over the manufacturers 21 day instructions
 

nottyboi

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The liberals have bumbled through this they couldn’t make decisions the ones they made they reversed. And they did not get the shots till late and then not enough approx 200 million Americans have 2 shots and Canada? Not even a few million with two shots Whether Pfizer is getting paid or not has nothing to do with delaying the doses for four months that was done because the liberals were in a mad panic because they fucked up Pfizer and moderna both never agreed to the extended second shot
So what, the USA has large domestic capacity and halted exports of Vax, why do you think Canada can do what the most powerful country on the planet can do? Do you think we should have spend $5B on our own Warp Speed? Canada was one of the first countries to sign for Pfizer, Moderna and A-Z. To think Canada can do whatever the US can is just dumbassed Canadian delusion.
 
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