With the 2 demonstrations yesterday in Toronto first with the anti maskers protest then later the Jewish-Palestinian demonstration I expect you will see a rise in the TO Covid numbers.
Hopefully the lockdown will end after we reach the vaccine tipping point where milder measures will result in numbers still going down.No. The numbers will continue to decline.
Ford may be forced to extend another 2 weeks after June 2. The protests on the weekend didn't help. At least the Palestinian protests many were seen wearing masks. The anti-lockdown protest just blatant regard for safety.With the 2 demonstrations yesterday in Toronto first with the anti maskers protest then later the Jewish-Palestinian demonstration I expect you will see a rise in the TO Covid numbers.
Weren't both of those outside?With the 2 demonstrations yesterday in Toronto first with the anti maskers protest then later the Jewish-Palestinian demonstration I expect you will see a rise in the TO Covid numbers.
That's not what she said.at least 50% OF PCR results are false
We get 30 to 40 year olds out protesting; none of whom ever ends up with covidWeren't both of those outside?
Wouldn't be likely to have much transmission.
But you wouldn't expect any deaths from the protests during the weeks of the protests.eg past 2 weeks while the huge protests been happening:
Deaths 19 and under - 1
20-39 - 11
40-59 - 72
60-79 - 181 (0.1% increase over pandemic norms)
80+ 141 (0.1% decrease over pandemic norms)
You can't just link to three 20-30 page pdfs like that.Heck if we even extrapolate back to Jan 1st 2021 (before vaccinations were widespread) there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE
Jan 1 vs May 15 Summary of Deaths
39 and under < 0.1% (I just lumped them together since total is too small to matter)
40 - 59 0.3% (no change, but then again most of these are not vaccinated today)
60 - 79 3.8% (decrease of 0.7%)
80+ 22.1% (decrease of 1.0%)
That is it; after vaccinating population the percentage who dies has decreased by less than 2% historically
thats what i am thinking, you dont need to vaccine alot to bring down the cases, Ontario has vaccinated almost half the population yet cases remain very high, PS who are all those people getting tested everydayWe get 30 to 40 year olds out protesting; none of whom ever ends up with covid
We get 70 to 80 year olds catching covid and requiring hospitalization
It amazes me the disconnect from reality some of those posters seem to have
Esp when stats for daily deaths and hospitalizations are readily accessible
eg past 2 weeks while the huge protests been happening:
Deaths 19 and under - 1
20-39 - 11
40-59 - 72
60-79 - 181 (0.1% increase over pandemic norms)
80+ 141 (0.1% decrease over pandemic norms)
Funny how all the 60+ seniors still make up vast majority of deaths despite claims of 85 to 90% vaccination rates and vaccine "protection"
Heck if we even extrapolate back to Jan 1st 2021 (before vaccinations were widespread) there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE
Jan 1 vs May 15 Summary of Deaths
39 and under < 0.1% (I just lumped them together since total is too small to matter)
40 - 59 0.3% (no change, but then again most of these are not vaccinated today)
60 - 79 3.8% (decrease of 0.7%)
80+ 22.1% (decrease of 1.0%)
That is it; after vaccinating population the percentage who dies has decreased by less than 2% historically
Your patience to educate the dense is admirable. When you want to borrow the brick to throw at the wall let me know.But you wouldn't expect any deaths from the protests during the weeks of the protests.
You can't just link to three 20-30 page pdfs like that.
At the very least give the table number you are drawing these from.
I'm guessing your calculating your first table from Table 4 in both of those pdfs. (That seems valid.)
Not sure where you're getting your "pandemic norms" though.
As for the second, you seem to be again using Table 4, which is comparing the cumulative deaths. Of course the numbers haven't changed much, how could they?
That 1% change is really quite dramatic for so short a time. That's an impressive shift.
Since she said that testing complicates the picture, it follows that no testing has the potential to simply the picture??at least 50% OF PCR results are false
Public Health Physician Dr. Yaffe Explains the No-Test Order for Ontario Teachers. She Admits to a 50% False-Positive Rate for COVID Tests.[/MEDIA]
You're missing the biggest point. It's not the number of deaths that are the biggest concern.... it's the danger of overwhelming the healthcare system! Younger people may be surviving covid infection but many are still needing critical medical attention. Pointing solely to number of deaths is not seeing the forest for the trees and a common distraction technique for anti vaxxers. Your stats are nothing but confirmation bias for you and dangerous misinformation for those who don't know better.We get 30 to 40 year olds out protesting; none of whom ever ends up with covid
We get 70 to 80 year olds catching covid and requiring hospitalization
It amazes me the disconnect from reality some of those posters seem to have
Esp when stats for daily deaths and hospitalizations are readily accessible
eg past 2 weeks while the huge protests been happening:
Deaths 19 and under - 1
20-39 - 11
40-59 - 72
60-79 - 181 (0.1% increase over pandemic norms)
80+ 141 (0.1% decrease over pandemic norms)
Funny how all the 60+ seniors still make up vast majority of deaths despite claims of 85 to 90% vaccination rates and vaccine "protection"
Heck if we even extrapolate back to Jan 1st 2021 (before vaccinations were widespread) there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE
Jan 1 vs May 15 Summary of Deaths
39 and under < 0.1% (I just lumped them together since total is too small to matter)
40 - 59 0.3% (no change, but then again most of these are not vaccinated today)
60 - 79 3.8% (decrease of 0.7%)
80+ 22.1% (decrease of 1.0%)
That is it; after vaccinating population the percentage who dies has decreased by less than 2% historically
No I would argue deaths are far more importantYou're missing the biggest point. It's not the number of deaths that are the biggest concern.... it's the danger of overwhelming the healthcare system! Younger people may be surviving covid infection but many are still needing critical medical attention. Pointing solely to number of deaths is not seeing the forest for the trees and a common distraction technique for anti vaxxers. Your stats are nothing but confirmation bias for you and dangerous misinformation for those who don't know better.
I only know a single person who had a test (work related)thats what i am thinking, you dont need to vaccine alot to bring down the cases, Ontario has vaccinated almost half the population yet cases remain very high, PS who are all those people getting tested everyday
I don't know the numbers but I will take your word for it.No I would argue deaths are far more important
The ICUs are nowhere near capacity (800ish out of 3100)
Plus they have (at least) 3 unused field hospitals should a real spike occur
More cases=more deathsNo I would argue deaths are far more important
Not true at allMore cases=more deaths