Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors

[lenny2]

Well tune in this weekend cuz the UFC will be in will be in the Toyota Center in Houston.

I'm betting that your vast majority will be sans masks for that one as well.

The fact of the matter is the majority of people are not wearing masks contrary to what your polls say.

As they say the proof is in the pudding........

Who to believe?

Some yahoo, likely a covidiot, on an internet whoremonger forum?

Or source after source (read the thread) that stated Texans, for the most part, were still wearing masks weeks after the mandate was lifted?

It's a no brainer for most of us , that is those of us who aren't covidiots.

But another matter for those on a steady diet of fruit loops.

 

[The Oracle]

Who to believe?

Some yahoo, likely a covidiot, on an internet whoremonger forum?

Or source after source (read the thread) that stated Texans are, for the most part, were still wearing masks weeks after the mandate was lifted?

It's a no brainer for most of us , that is those of us who aren't covidiots.

But another matter for those on a steady diet of fruit loops.

Maybe you should put your spoon down and believe what your eyes see............Just sayin.

I'll be sure to post a video of this weekends event for your viewing pleasure.

 

[maurice93]

I really hate it when you guys quote someone I have on ignore, but here's my response anyways.

First of all, even if his poll is accurate it was taken almost 1.5 months ago, so its outdated and no longer relevant.

Second of all, even if 80% of Texans still wear their masks, we should have seen an approximate 20% increase in new cases since 20% are clearly not wearing their masks anymore. Except we're not seeing it, Texas cases continue to go down.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

So once again a giant fail by lenny2, which explains why I have him on ignore

The numbers work in waves. The immediate change in numbers (decrease or increase) is often not related to current behaviour. Current behaviour will trigger stuff that could cause spikes in a few months. Texas could have a significant increase as a new wave starts in a few months. Or not.

I certainly hope Texas cases don’t spike way up as they are doing a free study for the rest of the world on moving forward. But I wouldn’t bet on it either.

 

[lenny2]

I really hate it when you guys quote someone I have on ignore, but here's my response anyways.

First of all, even if his poll is accurate it was taken almost 1.5 months ago, so its outdated and no longer relevant.

Second of all, even if 80% of Texans still wear their masks, we should have seen an approximate 20% increase in new cases since 20% are clearly not wearing their masks anymore. Except we're not seeing it, Texas cases continue to go down.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

So once again a giant fail by lenny2, which explains why I have him on ignore

Your statement i've boldened above is simply retarded covidiot speak.

After all these months you continue to make the same ridiculous blunder over and over and over again. Whether it be re Sweden, Ontario, Texas, etc.

Have you not yet learned that the number of infections depends on multiple variables?

That's why your statement i've boldened above is so - so, so - stupid.

If you had read & learned anything from this thread you'ld be aware of the various factors in Texas that could have been leading to a recent reduction in infections.

The fact is more & more Texans are getting vaccinated which leads to - are your ears open - fewer infections.

In any place it's also possible infections go down because there are fewer being tested, more people spending time outside, less acting as irresponsible covidiots, etc.

With concerns about new more infectious & deadly COVID-19 VOC, we simply don't know how many Texans are wearing masks, practicing social distancing or staying away from other people, etc. The recent news re new VOC would motivate Texans to act more safely & cautiously. Which leads to fewer infections.

 

[lenny2]

Maybe you should put your spoon down and believe what your eyes see............Just sayin.

WTF. That's just stupid.

How are my eyes going to see all of Texas in one moment?

Anyone can search the internet and find many examples of Texans wearing masks and Texas' businesses requiring people wear masks to enter their business.

Why don't you do that & believe what your eyes are telling you. lol.

Polls of Texans that say 80% were wearing masks are based on Texans telling you what they are doing? Why don't you believe them?

Again you referring to one event full of covidiots is worthless info on this topic.

 

[Valcazar]

Second of all, even if 80% of Texans still wear their masks, we should have seen an approximate 20% increase in new cases since 20% are clearly not wearing their masks anymore.

That's not how the math works.

I'm betting that your vast majority will be sans masks for that one as well.

The fact of the matter is the majority of people are not wearing masks contrary to what your polls say.

As they say the proof is in the pudding........

Right, but the people showing up to UFC events unmasked isn't proof of anything. It's a self-selected group. That was like the people who pointed to Trump's rallies or Sanders's rallies and said that it was obvious they were more popular. It's just not telling you that much about the overall population.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That's not how the math works

Thats exactly how the math works. Texas has just under 30 million people.
That means if 20% arent wearing a mask, you're looking at 6 million unmasked people.
6 million should easily have caused a drastic increase in new cases if masks worked so well, and yet not only did not cause an increase, cases continue to decrease

 

[basketcase]

So here we have last weekends fight between Canelo Alvarez and Billy Joe Saunders which was held in doors in Arlington, Texas at A T&T stadium before 73,126 souls.

Look real close at how many masked people you see compared to not masked........

Now tell me about your polls........

When Oracle tries to figure out what polls are.....

 

[basketcase]

Well tune in this weekend cuz the UFC will be in will be in the Toyota Center in Houston.

I'm betting that your vast majority will be sans masks for that one as well.

The fact of the matter is the majority of people are not wearing masks contrary to what your polls say.

As they say the proof is in the pudding........

Wait, are you saying that a sporting event that appeals to young men in a Republican state might not have good public health compliance?

But I'm sure the possible 20,000 people at the event will be an accurate enough sample to describe the behaviour of the other 29 million texans.

 

[Valcazar]

Thats exactly how the math works. Texas has just under 30 million people.
That means if 20% arent wearing a mask, you're looking at 6 million unmasked people.
6 million should easily have caused a drastic increase in new cases if masks worked so well, and yet not only did not cause an increase, cases continue to decrease

No, it really isn't.
"I am unmasked = I am guaranteed to get COVID" is just nonsense.
That's as stupid as saying "If the mask isn't 100% protective it is useless."

The idea masks (or any kind of protection) is like an on-off switch is just completely wrong.

 

[lenny2]

Do lockdowns not work? Why Florida and Texas are doing better than Ontario and Alberta

Why are lockdown-free states suddenly doing as well or better than locked-down provinces?

nationalpost.com

 

[shack]

Maybe you should put your spoon down and believe what your eyes see............Just sayin.

I'll be sure to post a video of this weekends event for your viewing pleasure.

How many people in the arena? What's the population of Texas? .067% of the state is your sample size.

And the demographic of a UFC fight is hardly representative of the state.

Don't bother with the video. You'll just be wasting film.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

No, it really isn't.
"I am unmasked = I am guaranteed to get COVID" is just nonsense

I never said unmasked people are guaranteed to get Covid, I said 20% of texans not wearing their mask should have caused a drastic increase in new cases if masks worked so well, but it didnt. In fact the opposite happened, new cases continue to go down to this day

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

New cases were up slightly again yesterday, but so far the trend is still going down:

Texas COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Texas COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[drewstar]

So,
Are cases going down or not?
this shouldn’t turn into an argument about masks vs no masks.
Some wear them in Texas and some don’t.
Are cases actually going down? A month or so ago, the Jays played to a packed stadium in Texas, any spike in cases? A week ago 70,000 packed Texas stadium, I did see some wearing masks and some weren’t.
What is the fallout?
we will see, but I haven’t witnessed a significant spike in cases from that Jays game that everyone was freaking out about.

Or at UFC 261 in Jacksonville (masks optional, Brady and others in attendance maskless).

Or at SB 55.

Or for any of the Atlanta Braves home games (now full capacity for remainder of season).

 

[benstt]

I never said unmasked people are guaranteed to get Covid, I said 20% of texans not wearing their mask should have caused a drastic increase in new cases if masks worked so well, but it didnt. In fact the opposite happened, new cases continue to go down to this day

Unless, drumrollllllll, there are other factors involved.

Keep up the trolling man. Situation is looking desperate, but gotta admire your work ethic.

 

[Male4Strapon]

So,
Are cases going down or not?
Are cases actually going down? A month or so ago, the Jays played to a packed stadium in Texas, any spike in cases? A week ago 70,000 packed Texas stadium, I did see some wearing masks and some weren’t.
What is the fallout?

New cases were up slightly again yesterday, but so far the trend is still going down:

Texas COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Texas COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

It's all relative...... yes numbers in Texas are plummeting but before anyone pulls a muscle praising the Texas decision, number are nosediving across the entire country which shows the efficacy of mass vaccination.
Texas is down 28% over the past 14 days while 19* states have even better results (*including DC & Puerto Rico) over that time.

 

[lenny2]

New cases were up slightly again yesterday, but so far the trend is still going down:

Texas COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Texas COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Vaccinations in Texas are working!

Hallelujah!

Vaccinations are keeping infections from rising.

More & more Texans are getting vaccinated daily.

And people being outdoors at a baseball game might not be so bad either. After all, being indoors in poorly ventilated places is far more likely to result in infections than being outdoors.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Unless, drumrollllllll, there are other factors involved.

Keep up the trolling man. Situation is looking desperate, but gotta admire your work ethic.

Now that you guys are losing the debate you wanna play the troll-card

I'll take it one step further, I think everyone wearing masks may have made things worse.
If you dont wash them daily they will get dirty very quick, and then it becomes like wearing a petri dish on your face.
In hospitals nurses discard their mask after their daily shift, or they disinfect them.
But they never wear a dirty mask 2 for more days in a row

 

[lenny2]

Now that you guys are losing the debate you wanna play the troll-card

I'll take it one step further, I think everyone wearing masks may have made things worse.
If you dont wash them daily they will get dirty very quick, and then it becomes like wearing a petri dish on your face.
In hospitals nurses discard their mask after their daily shift, or they disinfect them.
But they never wear a dirty mask 2 for more days in a row

Wild speculation with no evidence to back it up.

If wearing masks makes things worse, then fewer wearing masks (as you allege) since the Texas mask mandate was removed should have been a factor working towards fewer infections. But the ever increasing vaccination numbers in Texas causing fewer infections is the more reasonable conclusion.

Scientific evidence opposes your above stated mask viewpoint:

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

Quite a number of people here have mentioned trolling with your name ; Is that conclusion not a no brainer, like your ridiculous statements in this thread.