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2020-21 Maple Leafs Thread

gcostanza

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Comment from noted Maple Leafs fan, Kevin Bieksa:

"For retribution, you don't get a fair fight, that's not 'the code'.
You don't get to fight a guy that's your equal, you're supposed to take your licks." -

on why Alex Edler fought Wayne Simmonds.
 

superstar_88

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...and the message Vancouver should send Toronto is to beat up one of their non-fighters.
You obviously missed the point. What Simmonds did was to tell Vancouver don't bother or you'll get some more beating.
Vancouver got the message. They didn't bother.
 

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You obviously missed the point. What Simmonds did was to tell Vancouver don't bother or you'll get some more beating.
I didn’t miss the point...the point I’m making is if Toronto’s toughest player is going to beat up a Vancouver player who has never been in a fight before, you return the favour by sending one of your tougher guys to beat up a Leaf non-fighter.
 
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The knee on knee hit even unintentional was blatantly careless. He stuck his knee out charging at Hyman. This is the kind of hits that can end a player’s career and even the Canucks’ own players would not like to see, and that’s why no teammate came to his aid. He had two choices, one was to accept the challenge and pay his dues, or he could decline and risk putting his teammates at risk of being run at. Simmonds actually could have inflicted more damage but he let up once Edler lost balance.
 

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Edler's first fight and Simmonds beats him up for something that was an accident and he got suspended for it...I'd like to see Vancouver do the same thing to one of Toronto's non-fighters...

Accident??? Give me a fucking a break....

He's a multiple offender when it comes to knee on knee. Accident or not, learn to skate for fuck sakes. Your in the NHL.
 

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Poulin made a good point on that yesterday where it wasn't needed because Edler is not a fighter nor a dirty player. Agreed.
I watched when Poulin made those comments too. I took his words and assumed that Edler was not a dirty player.

Upon further investigations however, I found out that in the 2013 IIHF World Championship he was suspended for a similar knee on knee hit and injured Eric Staal. I believer there had been at least one other suspension in the nhl. He therefore deserves no benefit of the doubt and everything he got from Simmonds. The Hyman injury was caused by a dirty hit from a dirty player.
 

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From Wikipedia:

Edler was responsible for a knee-on-knee hit to Carolina Hurricanes captain Eric Staal in the quarterfinals of the 2013 IIHF World Championship, and was suspended for the final two games of the championship.[53] Sweden went on to win the gold medal, and Edler was awarded a medal even though he did not play in the gold medal game. On 29 July 2013, the IIHF extended the suspension to cover Sweden's first two games of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi.[54] Edler later joined team Sweden during the Olympics after his two-game suspension. He recorded a goal and two assists in the tournament, helping Sweden earn the silver medal.
 
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Not for knee on knees...you said "he was a multiple offender for knee on knee"...wrong!
Actually you said he's never been suspended for knee on knee. I said he's a multiple offender. So your correct he's never been suspended for knee on knee, but has been suspended twice for other stuff and injured Eric Staal with a knee on knee in an IIHL event.

So I'm not exactly sure what your trying to defend here. He's a has history, and Wayne Simmonds was absolutely justified in going after him.
 
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Actually you said he's never been suspended for knee on knee. I said he's a multiple offender. So your correct he's never been suspended for knee on knee, but has been suspended twice for other stuff and injured Eric Staal with a knee on knee in an IIHL event.

So I'm not exactly sure what your trying to defend here. He's a has history, and Wayne Simmonds was absolutely justified in going after him.
So what does Vancouver do...Leaf's toughest player beats up one of their players who has never been in a fight before, just let it slide, forget about it? Vancouver doesn't have a player who can beat up Simmonds...how should they react...do nothing, that'd be a pussy move...go after Simmonds, that probably wouldn't work out either...don't be surprised if one of the Leaf's unlikely fighters faces an uncomfortable situation.
 

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From Wikipedia:

Edler was responsible for a knee-on-knee hit to Carolina Hurricanes captain Eric Staal in the quarterfinals of the 2013 IIHF World Championship, and was suspended for the final two games of the championship.[53] Sweden went on to win the gold medal, and Edler was awarded a medal even though he did not play in the gold medal game. On 29 July 2013, the IIHF extended the suspension to cover Sweden's first two games of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi.[54] Edler later joined team Sweden during the Olympics after his two-game suspension. He recorded a goal and two assists in the tournament, helping Sweden earn the silver medal.
ruh-roh! Scooby!
 

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So what does Vancouver do...Leaf's toughest player beats up one of their players who has never been in a fight before, just let it slide, forget about it? Vancouver doesn't have a player who can beat up Simmonds...how should they react...do nothing, that'd be a pussy move...go after Simmonds, that probably wouldn't work out either...don't be surprised if one of the Leaf's unlikely fighters faces an uncomfortable situation.
I’m not sure how you want me to answer this. I’m not the GM of the canucks.
Either get a modern day enforcer like simmonds, or teach your players how not to play dirty.
 

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So what does Vancouver do...Leaf's toughest player beats up one of their players who has never been in a fight before, just let it slide, forget about it? Vancouver doesn't have a player who can beat up Simmonds...how should they react...do nothing, that'd be a pussy move...go after Simmonds, that probably wouldn't work out either...don't be surprised if one of the Leaf's unlikely fighters faces an uncomfortable situation.
Vancouver is just running out the string. I don’t think the players even care anymore, just get the season over with is all they care about.
 

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I gotta say though - the excitement for this Leafs team this year is well warranted, hopefully they deliver this year. Hockey has been exciting, especially when the team is winning.
 
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