What Would You Do For Work If We Have a UBI?
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We are a consumerist society. With more automation there is less available work, and this will only continue. Yet, production levels will increase and the economy will flourish. IF people have money to spend.
The way it works is this, the products that are produced get bought, that money enters the economy, that money then goes into the UBI and those people buy more products. And so the cycle continues. It is really very simple.
The way it works is this, the products that are produced get bought, that money enters the economy, that money then goes into the UBI and those people buy more products. And so the cycle continues. It is really very simple.
That's exactly what you did, yes.
What an odd thing to say.
So you're saying everyone will be happier?
And you know that how, exactly? Can you show us this China UBI plan so we can see if it is a good model?
But if people have dignity, how can you take advantage of them?
Don't you see how important that is to some people?
an odd thing to say ? please explain in DETAIL how being a citizen is work? I'm curious as in YOUR world I would be owed big time as I have citizenship in multiple countries
nice try YOU cut the definition to frame it to fit your idea I posted it unedited and included the entire 1st definition you did not
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try again if that worked why isn't EVERYONE doing it? That's because it doesn't work article below says it would cost $465 BILLION per year to run in Canada
FUSS: Liberal plan for universal basic income ignores huge price tag | Toronto Sun
A recent study analyzed the cost implications of a UBI based on the $2,000 monthly benefit provided by the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB) program. If all Canadians aged 18 to 64 received annual payments of $24,000 with no strings attached, then the annual price tag would reach $465 billion. For context, that’s almost $100 billion more than all federal spending in 2019/20.
failed in Finland
Why Finland's Basic-Income Trial Failed, According to Experts (businessinsider.com)
would have required a 30% tax increase to fund the program, finns already pay 50% tax
Universal Basic Income: An Idea That's Already Been Tried And Failed Miserably | Investor's Business Daily (investors.com)
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Get rid of indexed public sector pension plans and change to a contribution retirement plan without any fixed benefits or public taxpayer funded obligations.
Remove many of the perks that only public sector workers get - no banked sick days, increase the co-pay health and dental or offer a fixed annual amount.
Reallocate a bit more of the savings to the legitimately poor. That alone would save billions upon billions annually.
UBI is a socialist idea that is doomed to be abused and will result in a lower national standard of living.
So let the public sector put their money where their mouth is - or let them eat cake.
Remove many of the perks that only public sector workers get - no banked sick days, increase the co-pay health and dental or offer a fixed annual amount.
Reallocate a bit more of the savings to the legitimately poor. That alone would save billions upon billions annually.
UBI is a socialist idea that is doomed to be abused and will result in a lower national standard of living.
So let the public sector put their money where their mouth is - or let them eat cake.
Dude.
You posted the first line only.
I posted another line because the definition is more complex. I even pointed out that it was another definition from the same place you took yours.
Then you accused me of editing it and posted the whole thing (thus demonstrating you had selectively edited it originally)
Now are throwing a tantrum saying I edited it to frame it when that is what you did in the first place.
You're embarrassing yourself.
I prefer a minimum wage to UBI and would even support government small business subsidy to meet that minimum. Everyone should be able to make enough money to live if they are working. UBI takes away the incentive to better one self.
If UBI was in effect, I might choose beach towel inspector as a profession.
If UBI was in effect, I might choose beach towel inspector as a profession.
UBI castrates the ambition and motivation of the poor smart and hungry person to strive to do better and will only be an appetizer for the main course as more government social programs will be seen as an entitlement and thus a carrot dangled by politicians who wish to survive. After this pandemic is over, the ”shadow pandemic” will linger on for a good while longer with both necessary government aid and unnecessary government waste in the mix”
All Canadians should receive the same UBI. Working should be optional, but if an individual decides to work, any income above the UBI is taxed at 100%. All Canadians are entitled to free housing, free education, free transportation anywhere in Canada and free healthcare Including dental. All Canadians are entitled to the same size standard dwelling with no property tax, those with larger than the standard dwelling shall be 100% property tax. All Canadians are entitled to a free monthly ration consisting of one kilo of, sugar, salt, cooking oil and cannabis , delivered free of charge. All current political parties must agree to the aforementioned Canadian entitlements in order to maintain party status. The Canadian government must severe immediately all diplomatic ties to the United States of America and replace them equivalent ties to China. Diplomatic ties and embassies to North Korea, Cuba and Bolivia must be established and citizens of those countries should get immediate Canadian citizenship.. Marxist Leninist school curriculum should be mandatory in all public schools and private schools should be made illegal. All Canadians are entitled to a free Huawei phone every two years and free unlimited Netflix usuage with all other phone companies not be permitted to do businesses in Canada.
you liberals love to tell people how and what they think and what they are doing you have REFUSED to answer any questions
now answer this you talk embarrassing please tell us all how being a citizen is work?
an odd thing to say ? please explain in DETAIL how being a citizen is work? I'm curious as in YOUR world I would be owed big time as I have citizenship in multiple countries
I post FACTS the UBI has failed and would fail here due to a cost of $465 BILLION a year please tell us how that would be paid for?
Or maybe people stop engaging you because you blatantly ignore facts, post complete propaganda, and are irrational and illogical?
Where have you posted ANY facts at all to back up your claims ???? I posted articles that show the cost of ubi is unsustainable but you ignore them and dismiss them because they prove your wrong.
Not to mention the claim above that being a citizen is work is so outrageous I do want to see him explain that
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It was such a great thing that Canada ended it I guess?
People were dropping out of the program because it wasnt enough to live on.
Think you can live on $16,000-$22,000 a year???????
Look it up yourself.
Its called "Social credit score".
It even penalizes you for not cooperating.
You dont find it strange that many countries are experimenting with the idea lately???
Almost like the whole world is in a 3 wave at the same time????
I am not your personal Siri. What claims did I make? All I have posted was theory and saying I myself wouldn't even be eligible for the program because my income exceeds the amount it would be.
You claimed I posted no facts I posted the facts you chose to ignore them or dismiss them you cannot dispute what I posted without posting evidence showing differently
