Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors

[shack]

Maybe because in Texas they have vaccine in Texas and in Canada we do not.

The reason Canada does not have vaccine is that our Prime Minister is incompetent. Justin Trudeau and his government should have anticipated that Canada should have its own domestic supply of vaccine.

Since you're a broken record... We had the facilities until Mulroney sold them off to make it look he could balance the book. Typical right wing short-sightedness. He should have anticipated and realised how important having our own facilities would be, even if it would be 30-40 years down the line.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. For Canada to be in good shape now all that he had to do was a big, fat nothing. Much easier than starting from scratch.

 

[basketcase]

Which is exactly why they should have levelled out, or gone an upward trend again, if masks were making such a difference.
Except it didnt do that. Case kept declining
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So masks (and other factors) made the number decrease, two weeks after the mandate ended, cases are no longer decreasing. Why do you find that so confusing?

 

[basketcase]

Nope, I never said that. I said ending mask use had no impact on the spread of the virus whatsoever.
Whether thats an increase or decrease in new cases

So all those posts you made about masks being useless.....?

 

[basketcase]

2 weeks is still too small a sample size. If its up in 2 weeks again then you have a case.
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Strange, it's too small a sample size for you to defend but not too small for you to start a thread making that claim.

 

[rhuarc29]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks. You have people bending over backwards to try to prove they don't work. Just look at this thread: you have a guy who's showing Texas removed the mask mandate, and the numbers have since gone down. All good so far. But then he admits there are other factors, yet still claims direct correlation.

Is it a childish rebellion thing? Like a kid you tell to do something, then he stubbornly refuses to simply because you told him so?
Are they so fucking lazy that putting on a mask is arduous to them?
Do they simply not give a shit about how comfortable those around them are?
Is it an incessant need to strut around with their opinions worn on their sleeves?

I'm genuinely curious why this is a thing. The health professionals say they work, it's no skin off my back to wear them, and I'd rather the people around me feel comfortable in my presence. Seems like a complete no-brainer to wear a mask to me.

 

[Male4Strapon]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks.
I'm genuinely curious why this is a thing. The health professionals say they work, it's no skin off my back to wear them, and I'd rather the people around me feel comfortable in my presence. Seems like a complete no-brainer to wear a mask to me.

This. Exactly this.

 

[squeezer]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks. You have people bending over backwards to try to prove they don't work. Just look at this thread: you have a guy who's showing Texas removed the mask mandate, and the numbers have since gone down. All good so far. But then he admits there are other factors, yet still claims direct correlation.

Is it a childish rebellion thing? Like a kid you tell to do something, then he stubbornly refuses to simply because you told him so?
Are they so fucking lazy that putting on a mask is arduous to them?
Do they simply not give a shit about how comfortable those around them are?
Is it an incessant need to strut around with their opinions worn on their sleeves?

I'm genuinely curious why this is a thing. The health professionals say they work, it's no skin off my back to wear them, and I'd rather the people around me feel comfortable in my presence. Seems like a complete no-brainer to wear a mask to me.

The problem is you are talking common sense and many lack it!

 

[NotADcotor]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks.
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The health professionals say they work, it's no skin off my back to wear them, and I'd rather the people around me feel comfortable in my presence. Seems like a complete no-brainer to wear a mask to me.

If I was one of those people who lost their business and dreams, who are going into debt/more debt, being kept away from loved ones, have had years of effort developing pumpitude only to lose it, I'd be absolutely livid about the anti maskers. There are plenty of people out there who have made huge sacrifices. Also people who you know... died. Long haulers who have had their lives destroyed. Those anti maskers must be a slap in the face for them also.

It's just a fucking mask, they are not asking you to go ass to mouth and suck a dick. As hommie above says, it's no skin off your back.

I think there should be a new rule. If you don't wear a mask, I should be allowed to slug you in the face. I mean if you don't give a crap about the health of others... At the very least I should be allowed to whip it out and engage in urine expulsion on the non mask wearing. Least those droplets won't land you in the hospital or the morgue.

Don't get me wrong, like CM, I also don't live my life in fear. When I drive on the 401 I go 150 while wearing a blind fold, steering with my knees while fapping and vigorously head banging to tunes like Crayon Pop's Bar Bar Bar.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So masks (and other factors) made the number decrease, two weeks after the mandate ended, cases are no longer decreasing. Why do you find that so confusing?

That is simply not true. Cases have been decreasing in Texas since March 10th.
I trust you know how to read a graph??

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So all those posts you made about masks being useless.....?

I said standard surgical masks are useless, but N95 masks are not.

Please tell me you're trolling at this point.
Nobody can be this dumb

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Strange, it's too small a sample size for you to defend but not too small for you to start a thread making that claim.

1 month sample size is about adequate to see if masks made a difference.
I post this thread after 35 days

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks. You have people bending over backwards to try to prove they don't work. Just look at this thread: you have a guy who's showing Texas removed the mask mandate, and the numbers have since gone down. All good so far. But then he admits there are other factors, yet still claims direct correlation.

Is it a childish rebellion thing? Like a kid you tell to do something, then he stubbornly refuses to simply because you told him so?
Are they so fucking lazy that putting on a mask is arduous to them?
Do they simply not give a shit about how comfortable those around them are?
Is it an incessant need to strut around with their opinions worn on their sleeves?

I'm genuinely curious why this is a thing. The health professionals say they work, it's no skin off my back to wear them, and I'd rather the people around me feel comfortable in my presence. Seems like a complete no-brainer to wear a mask to me

I'm not anti masks, I'm pro N95 masks

 

[NotADcotor]

That is simply not true. Cases have been decreasing in Texas since March 10th.
I trust you know how to read a graph??

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

That isn't how you read a graph BTW.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That isn't how you read a graph BTW

That graph clearly shows a continuing downward trend starting on March 10th

 

[NotADcotor]

That graph clearly shows a continuing downward trend starting on March 10th

No, no it doesn't, you don't take a local outlier as your base point. That isn't how good statistics works.
One could just as easily drawn a line from the day before and picked a peak in the last cluster and say, hey see, increase.
Of the 5 clusters after that day it would seem they went down a bit but started going back up but again not all that significantly to infer much.
Again you don't know how to read a graph. It really marginal movement not enough to make an inference with the Mark 1 A2 eyeball.

Have you considered a career with the British Civil Service

Yeah yeah I know, it's more to do with polling than statistical analysis but still.

 

[Male4Strapon]

That graph clearly shows a continuing downward trend starting on March 10th

What's it been since April 6? Small sample size I know, but up 14%.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

No, no it doesn't

You need to get your eyes checked. Try booking a good optometrist

 

[benstt]

I'm curious why there's such a phenomenon in regards to backlash against masks. You have people bending over backwards to try to prove they don't work. Just look at this thread: you have a guy who's showing Texas removed the mask mandate, and the numbers have since gone down. All good so far. But then he admits there are other factors, yet still claims direct correlation.

Phil is trolling hard. His argument that he can look at a chart and attribute change to a single factor is wrong, and he is aware of it due to the posting of an actual study of mask impacts in the past (maybe more than one.) Phil is arguing for the sport of it. Unfortunately it is not a good topic to spread misinformation about.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Phil is trolling hard. His argument that he can look at a chart and attribute change to a single factor is wrong, and he is aware of it due to the posting of an actual study of mask impacts in the past (maybe more than one.) Phil is arguing for the sport of it. Unfortunately it is not a good topic to spread misinformation about

I'm not trolling. All I've done is post facts. The Texas Tribune even picked up on this story:

Texas coronavirus cases haven't surged since Gov. Greg Abbott lifted the mask order. Experts warn it's too soon to celebrate.

Daily new cases and the positivity rate have leveled off over the past month, while deaths and hospitalization have gone down substantially.

www.texastribune.org

More than a month has passed since Gov. Greg Abbott ended virtually all statewide restrictions related to the coronavirus pandemic. Nationwide, new coronavirus cases are on the rise as new variants of the virus spread. And about four-fifths of Texans are not yet fully vaccinated.

But at least for now, the most dire predictions of a new major wave of cases in Texas have not come true, prompting a mix of theories from public health experts.

Those experts caution that a major increase in cases could still come and it may still be too early to tell whether Abbott’s decisions to lift the statewide mask mandate and allow businesses to fully reopen could prompt a new wave of infections. Still, daily new cases and the positivity rate have leveled off over the past month, while deaths and hospitalization have gone down substantially

 

[squeezer]

I'm not trolling. All I've done is post facts. The Texas Tribune even picked up on this story:

Texas coronavirus cases haven't surged since Gov. Greg Abbott lifted the mask order. Experts warn it's too soon to celebrate.

Daily new cases and the positivity rate have leveled off over the past month, while deaths and hospitalization have gone down substantially.

www.texastribune.org

Oh no, you're trolling! LOL

Hey, have you ever had a real girlfriend for longer than a couple of weeks??

I ask because you're stubborn and argue relentlessly when you know, we all know you're wrong but keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. Chicks usually dump dudes quickly with that type of personality.