Worst Nhl contracts?
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True, we lack the economy of scale and a lot of taxes are embedded in our product prices. I noticed that years ago when I drove a car in the U.S. and had to gas up. Also why some Canadians cross border shop (before the lockdown.
You gotta to be kidding... Look up the price to have a kid in the US. To put that kid in daycare. Look at rental/housing marking in major area. And in many states they pay same tax as us but without major benefit we have here. I have been working with work colleagues everywhere in the US for the last 20 years and they truly envy us (except for our weather... And that I understand them).
True it used to be like that. And Canadian team were doing great because of that!
But imagine an academy team where you can sign up player at 14 year old like in soccer. That would be awesome for canadian club
The U.S. is a big country so it is better to compare specific locations rather than a macro country comparison. We have an office in Buffalo so let's compare cost of living there vs Toronto.
Cost of Living Comparison Between Buffalo, NY and Toronto You would need around 5,124.23$ (6,545.34C$) in Toronto to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,100.00 $ in Buffalo, NY (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living.
How about Detroit?
"Cost of Living Comparison Between Toronto and Detroit, MI You would need around 5,745.84C$ (4,388.60$) in Detroit, MI to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,600.00 C$ in Toronto (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living."
How about Houston?
"Cost of Living Comparison Between Toronto and Houston, TX You would need around 5,569.37C$ (4,342.44$) in Houston, TX to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,500.00 C$ in Toronto (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living."
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That's true but who in hell would want to go to live if fucking Buffalo
Texas could be nice but the only team is in Dallas which sucks... Put a team in Austin and it would be great!
Cost of living Dallas vs Toronto
"Cost of Living Comparison Between Dallas, TX and Toronto You would need around 5,082.13$ (6,486.35C$) in Toronto to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,600.00 $ in Dallas, TX (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living."
Personally, I prefer to live in the Hamptons or Greenwich.
"Cost of Living Comparison Between Dallas, TX and Toronto You would need around 5,082.13$ (6,486.35C$) in Toronto to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,600.00 $ in Dallas, TX (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living."
Personally, I prefer to live in the Hamptons or Greenwich.
Yes but it may be Carey price, I believe he's 35th in goaltending stats approximately. Everyone thinks he's going to return to form but there's no evidence he ever will. The odd part is they chose him over halak and he's lights out now 10 years later. However skinner is an awful contract.
Even grosser if you are the one that has to pay it. And grosser yet if you are the GM who gave it to him.
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TBH, I've never heard that term before. Whatever it means, it has a pretty good ring to it.
He was overpaid because he had one good year and was a horrible skater. The snorty part I'm sure you could figure out with a google search.
Not an issue in a non cap world which is the context of this discussion.
This is only an issue in a cap world. Montreal or any of the three clear revenue top teams (Toronto and NYR) which also have tax issues relative to other markets, cannot outspend people in this enveonment. As we have seen when a team like Toronto has a bunch of talent the cap crunch eventually comes.
When you have to ensure your contracts are in line with the rest of the league, yes things like taxes matter and make you less attractive.
But in cap free world, Montreal make up for this because of their high revenue levels. They could make up by paying more to players for their extra taxes.
Once local TV deals really started to get monetized about 15 years ago due to competing sports networks in Canada and the US the revenue distortion amongst teams got even bigger in sports leagues. In hockey Montreal was one of the big winners and the level of revenue they have over the average American market is huge. Toronto would have the same and probably bigger advantage.
Of course the cap world I doubt is changing anytime soon and that will make it difficult for Montreal especially when they have a massive contract to an above average goalie but not much more then that right now. And who could be worse than that.
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What does make a difference for a big market in a cap world is the ancillary income a star can make via endorsements and notoriety. Nobody can compete with NYC in that regard, but I'd say that Toronto has an advantage over Montreal for grabbing Canadian corporate dollars.
Wrong, hockey players aren't even on the radar in NYC. Lunquist had a moderate head and shoulders endorsement. Once again you're IGNORING (all caps) facts. Top players make ok endorsements but diddly compared to other sports figures.
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31 teams in the NHL...It is arrogant to think that Montreal, the city, province, and team, has more to offer than the rest of cities in the league.
They overpay for players they have and have no chance at signing free agents in a reasonable fair competition.
I am always amused when leafs fans bring this up as some massive loophole that led to a huge advantage for Montreal... and worse than that get many (perhaps not Shack) who extrapolate that advantage to Montreal across the two dynasties.
Was it an advantage for a brief time? Yes
Could it be seen as unfair? certainly
Was it a huge advantage? No
Did it have any impact on the 50s or late 70s dynasty? no.
Did the Canadiens ever have a big unfair advantage? Yes in the territory days that spanned most of the Original Six era they had first dibs on anybody within a fixed distance of Montreal. But you know what other team had the same advantage. The Leafs. I suppose every American team had it as well, but given there was basically no Americans playing hockey back then it meant nothing to them. So Montreal had an advantage over Toronto, because French Quebec and Montreal talent was better than Toronto talent at the time.
But let’s get back to the draft point you raised. You know why you remember Rejean Houle and Marc Tardif as the last two? Because they were the only two players that Montreal ever got of value because of this draft advantage. And let’s not pretend that those players were that relevant to their success. Tardif jumped to the WHA early on. Houle was a decent third line type. Unfortunately he probably hurt Montreal more in the long run. If he had went somewhere else he likely does not develop a rep on the market, never becomes a Montreal GM, and does not butcher a team in a way that rivals JF Jr.
So why didn’t the Habs get much value from this so called Huge draft advantage. Because the draft pool itself in most of those years was enormously weak because of the existing sponsorship system that was in place and possibly still territory signings before the draft. Top players, Quebec born or non Quebec born, were already with teams and were not part of the draft pool. In fact in those early bad draft pools, Montreal only got one player who became reallly valuable in their 70s cups. And that was Ken Dryden. Not the Habs fault the Leafs couldn’t scout their home area properly.
So in summary. The habs had the same massive territory rules advantage in the original six days as the leafs. While the short term draft advantage was unique to Montreal it really had little impact. But the myth of this impact has grown out of control.
I have talked to leafs fans who tell me this is how the habs got Guy Lafleur and other early era greats Which is not the case.
The late 70s habs were great because of great drafting / shrewd trades which built up a great prime age core. They also had some really good veterans which they did benefit from the old era territory rules in acquiring them. But none of their cups really had anything to do with Rejean Houle!!
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Shack I’m not going to argue with you that in a non cap world that Toronto would not have some spending power over Montreal.. They certainly would. But the point that was made was that Montreal would suffer to American markets in a non cap world which is blatantly false.
Toronto and New York would be the biggest benefactors, but Montreal as #3 in revenues out of 31 would be pretty damn happy about the situation as well as they could outspend most teams.
In terms of endorsement dollars. Not sure. I have a French background but by no means a French quebecer nor would I want to be. They reallly go crazy in admiration over their own like nothing I have ever seen elsewhere in Canada.. and often eventually turn on them. Endorsements would be there .
No goalie is worth that much money. You can't win when your paying that much to a goalie.
