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shack

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Darts said:
Will you relax. So much of your posts are nothing more than pure speculation. Why not wait for all the facts before posting?

Facts?
Darts?
In the same post?
Now I've seen everything.
As well I made absolutely no speculation and asked darts where I did, but whenever he is asked to back up an assertion of his he turtles and gives:
 

GameBoy27

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The road has seen about 1 accident a month since January of 2020:


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"I do think the fact that he was wearing a seat belt and that the vehicle safety features worked as designed by the manufacturer likely resulted in either reducing his injury or saving his life," Gonzalez told CNN's Chris Cuomo.

The car he was driving also featured an all-new safety platform, an executive for the automaker said in a statement to CNN.
The safety features of the Genesis GV80 include a strong focus on "passenger compartment protection/reinforcement areas," said Dana White, Chief Communications Officer for Genesis Motor North America. "This includes the use of advanced high strength steel for rigidity and safety."
The vehicle was equipped with 10 standard airbags, including a "center-side airbag unique to Genesis that deploys between the front seats," according to White.
While the exterior of the vehicle was mangled in the crash, the interior damage was such that Woods could survive.
"We have seen accidents with far less obvious (damage) that are fatalities," Villanueva told CNN.
Seatbelts and airbags work, without question. You know who else would still be alive had they been wearing a seatbelt? Lady Diana. This according to Mercedes who examined the vehicle after the crash.
 

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I removed CNN from my channel line up long ago. Are they saying anything about witnesses seeing someone wearing a MAGA hat fleeing the scene with substantial front end damage?
Please tell us what was the purpose of that post? Seeing as there cannot possibly be one it was an ignorant, irrelevant and inappropriate comment.
No reply. Just trolling.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Here's why it will be very tough for him to play competitive golf again: http://cw34.com/news/local/experts-s...ive-golf-again

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To stabilize the leg, surgeons also inserted a rod into the shinbone and screws and pins into the foot and ankle.

Barnett said that it's possible for Tiger to recover from these injuries, but he will likely lose flexibility and mobility in his foot and ankle.


"It’s hard to say for sure if he'll make a comeback," Dr. Barnett said. "I think the biggest issue is the complexity around the joints depending on how serious the fractures are, you can lose a lot of flexibility and mobility around the joints."

He says surgeons will likely have to fuse structures in the leg to stiffen things up, and that could change a golf swing forever.

"You can function without that flexibility, but a golf swing can change if you don’t have that," Dr. Barnett said. "The weight gets transferred from the leg to the foot, so if you don’t have that mobility in the foot, you don’t transfer the weigh the same, so it’s going to be an extensive rehab. I think he’ll get back to competitive golf, but it’s going to be a long road."
 

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Expert suggests he may have fallen asleep:

I too was wondering why Police would be quick to say no charges would be laid. Without first doing an investigation which should include examining the vehicle's black box. Like that one Cop said, unless he had a medical episode that caused him to lose conciseness, he's at fault. In Ontario, you'd be charged with careless. It sounds like he was either distracted (phone) or like I said in post #7, he simply fell asleep.
 

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A good reason for equipping cars with a "dead man's switch".

"A dead man's switch (see alternative names) is a switch that is designed to be activated or deactivated if the human operator becomes incapacitated, such as through death, loss of consciousness, or being bodily removed from control. Originally applied to switches on a vehicle or machine, it has since come to be used to describe other intangible uses like in computer software."
 

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A good reason for equipping cars with a "dead man's switch".

"A dead man's switch (see alternative names) is a switch that is designed to be activated or deactivated if the human operator becomes incapacitated, such as through death, loss of consciousness, or being bodily removed from control. Originally applied to switches on a vehicle or machine, it has since come to be used to describe other intangible uses like in computer software."
That's a lot easier than it sounds and would likely only account for a very small percentage of crashes.
 

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That's a lot easier than it sounds and would likely only account for a very small percentage of crashes.
Small percentage or not, I think they are on all trains. So, why not on all cars? It's like airbags and defibrillators and fire extinguishers, you hope you never need it but when you do you're glad it's there.
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Small percentage or not, I think they are on all trains. so, why not on all cars?
Understand since 1994 most American cars have event data recorders. I imagine imports have them too
 

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Small percentage or not, I think they are on all trains. so, why not on all cars?
You can't compare driving a train to driving a car. Tesla does have a system that may have prevented Tiger from crashing if he did in fact fall asleep. But this technology is very expensive and it will be a long, long time before it's standard on all vehicles.

"When the Tesla driver has engaged the autonomous driving system "Autopilot", they must keep their hands on the steering wheel. If the driver takes their hands off the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds, a loud alarm will sound inside the car to wake sleeping drivers, if the driver leaves their hands off for more than a minute, then the car will engage its hazard warnings lights, and bring the car to a stop. This is used because the Autopilot system is not capable of full-self driving, and requires that the driver be able to take over operation of the vehicle without warning, should the car encounter a problem it doesn't know how to solve. This system uses a torque sensor on the steering wheel of the vehicle, when the driver is holding the wheel, they are applying a small amount of torque to the wheel, confirming for the car that the driver is being attentive, if the driver turns the wheel with more force, all vehicle controls are handed back to the driver immediately."
 

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Understand since 1994 most American cars have event data recorders. I imagine imports have them too
Darts was talking about a "dead man switch" like on trains, not the event recorders.
 

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No... Read how Tesla's Autopilot works. Or better still, YouTube Tesla Autopilot.

Mind you, it has failed and caused a number of crashes.
Its not perfect, but its highly likely Tiger would have been saved by it.
 

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I too was wondering why Police would be quick to say no charges would be laid. Without first doing an investigation which should include examining the vehicle's black box. Like that one Cop said, unless he had a medical episode that caused him to lose conciseness, he's at fault. In Ontario, you'd be charged with careless. It sounds like he was either distracted (phone) or like I said in post #7, he simply fell asleep.
I would lean towards the cellphone. It was 7am, don't think he would be so sleepy at that time, unless he had a very late night Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink.
 

GameBoy27

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I would lean towards the cellphone. It was 7am, don't think he would be so sleepy at that time, unless he had a very late night Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink.
It should be pretty easy to determine if he was texting or on a call at the time. They're trained to look for a cell phone in a crash. If it was in his pocket, it rules that out.
 
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I thought when I learned that day that no other cars seemed to be involved who totals their car at 7AM? Likely the sleep deprived or someone under the influence of something. Maybe both.
I'm thinking it's going to come out that pain killers were involved that caused drowsiness.
 
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