Could it be that the molecules of 'fart' you are smelling are far smaller than than droplets potentially carrying covid?
I do love that our discussion of science has devolved to 6 year old levels.
Doom and gloom predictions....
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I do love that our discussion of science has devolved to 6 year old levels.
My good friend is an immunologist and studies viruses including Covid on a daily basis . He said that the vaccine would be effective on the current mutations as long as the mutation is not changing the spine protein. So far it’s mutating and they are saying some variations are stronger. Science is unpredictable so who knows ? My belief is eventually we will have to live with it. We’re winning battles but losing the war.
If you truly knew anyone in the medical field you would have known and they would have told you last year that a 3rd wave was to be expected sometime this year.
This is not new.
Utternonsense.....you’ve posted some doozies regarding COVID including the following from your esteemed knowledgeable friends supposedly in the health field, that have been untrue. All in an effort to undermine the threat COVID represents and get back to business without preventive measures in place.
We get it your not denouncing COVID, you just continually question all the scientific facts regarding COVID with your own anecdotal evidence.
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Your mask is to protect others from your droplets.
It is not filtering the air you breath.
They are saying this 10k number will happen because lockdowns where lifted now and not in 3 weeks from now. So Ya, going against the grain. This is why I really want to see which “experts” are right here. Let’s see if in a month, we hit 10K a day.
Of course there get out of jail free card is also how fast the variants take hold. If they don’t, then that is the reason we didn’t hit the numbers, if it does then they can shout victory. If it doesn’t, they can’t say it was because of lockdown precautions because we are lifting those going again this “prediction” so will be interesting to see
Both things have to happen for this prediction which is why I feel it is more a doom and gloom predictions then anything else. I really don’t believe we will 10k a day and when I don’t see us hit that number, I will be less inclined to listen to these so called modelling systems.
It won't happen because if they even get close to 2k a day, the lockdowns will be implemented quicker than TJ can make up any fakenews, nonsense and bullshit
! The purist in me would say science is predictable since it is a methodology and not a conclusion. Each mutations that are going on and how it will impact the virus are the unpredictable part only because we haven't had enough time to study it.
And then factor in that they just came out and said they found two variants morphed into one.
The more infectious UK variant is already spreading in Ontario. Forget one mask, the new norm is becoming two masks and then probably eye shields. The deadlier South African variant seems to be already starting to gain traction here. There appears to be a cluster in a Mississauga condo, detected on the 15th. Another worrying variant from Nigeria is already spreading in the UK, and it’s probably just a matter of time before it is found here.
It’s basically a race getting as many vaccinated while trying to get a grip of these other variants. Too bad our Uncle Trudeau and Uncle Ford are as clueless as their goofy faces reveal. Canada is basically still puttering and faffing away at the start line. ON phase 3 rollout for most of the population is Aug. (in reality it will probably be Oct.) because if we did things efficiently and effectively, it would be unforgivable.
It’s basically a race getting as many vaccinated while trying to get a grip of these other variants. Too bad our Uncle Trudeau and Uncle Ford are as clueless as their goofy faces reveal. Canada is basically still puttering and faffing away at the start line. ON phase 3 rollout for most of the population is Aug. (in reality it will probably be Oct.) because if we did things efficiently and effectively, it would be unforgivable.
This is the bullshit I am talking about.
2605 reported new case in Canada yesterday. Ontario recorded 847. Big drop from 2000s we were in just a couple of weeks ago.
But Tam warns of set backs. WTF is that?
But Ontario is suppose to see 10K a day by Mid March. They are talking about how all the variants are in the provinces so we have that from the prediction and we are lifting the restrictions. So that is both parts of the doom and gloom prediction. I just don’t see how we are reach 10K and why when numbers are so much lower, we are being warned of set backs??????
2605 reported new case in Canada yesterday. Ontario recorded 847. Big drop from 2000s we were in just a couple of weeks ago.
But Tam warns of set backs. WTF is that?
But Ontario is suppose to see 10K a day by Mid March. They are talking about how all the variants are in the provinces so we have that from the prediction and we are lifting the restrictions. So that is both parts of the doom and gloom prediction. I just don’t see how we are reach 10K and why when numbers are so much lower, we are being warned of set backs??????
Today’s coronavirus news: De Villa urging Ford to extend lockdown measures in Toronto until at least March 9; Ontario reporting 847 more cases, 10 deaths
Meanwhile, Pfizer and BioNTech said Wednesday they have finalized an agreement to supply the European Union with another 200 million doses of the vaccine.
So they said 10K case by March if the lockdown was end in Feb for most of Ontario and we had all variant strains. No where near 10K daily cases. We haven’t given out near enough doses of the vaccine to make such a drastic difference in the projections.
Now they say that we could hit 8,000 by next month. At this point, I don’t believe them. These “models” are total bullshit in my opinion now.
Now they say that we could hit 8,000 by next month. At this point, I don’t believe them. These “models” are total bullshit in my opinion now.
Next few weeks will determine whether Ontario will see a 'normal' summer, modelling suggests
Ontarians are being warned that their behaviour over the next few weeks is critical in determining the quality of their summer as COVID-19 cases start to increase and variants pose a significant risk, according to new modelling data.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
I agree enough vaccines besides the LTC where they have made a difference would not make a difference in the community yet but we were locked down. Toronto and Peel very recently came out of the lockdowns and Simcoe and Thunderbay were quickly locked down again because of variants. The lockdowns have definitely made a difference in the numbers. I don't believe the models are based on implemented lockdowns but the opposite. If I'm wrong someone can correct me except for the misinformation crew.So they said 10K case by March if the lockdown was end in Feb for most of Ontario and we had all variant strains. No where near 10K daily cases. We haven’t given out near enough doses of the vaccine to make such a drastic difference in the projections.
Now they say that we could hit 8,000 by next month. At this point, I don’t believe them. These “models” are total bullshit in my opinion now.
Next few weeks will determine whether Ontario will see a 'normal' summer, modelling suggests
Ontarians are being warned that their behaviour over the next few weeks is critical in determining the quality of their summer as COVID-19 cases start to increase and variants pose a significant risk, according to new modelling data.toronto.ctvnews.ca
It was based on two criteria. One was if the lockdowns ends in Feb. which I would say 90% of the province opened up.
The second was if we faced having all the new variant strains, which we have.
Now 10K was their top number and yes, 3 zones are still in lockdown and they are big population areas so taking that into consideration, I can see the difference. However, numbers are below 1,500 daily, just picking an even number here. I think numbers, based on their model criteria and the reality of what happened with those criteria, the numbers should still be higher based on model projections and they are no where even close.
Only in my opinion of course.
The media is filled with fake news. A friend of mine who is a Manager and works at the Amazon warehouse which was just shutdown by Peel Health told me he has been tested qty 6 times in the last 3 months. All test came back negative. My question is of the average 50000 test that are performed daily, how many are repeats of the same individuals in high risk environments?
They aren't. The problem is that people always report the "worst case" numbers as if they are the "most likely" numbers.
Add in that growth for these things is exponential, often with failure cascades, and you shouldn't ever really expect to see them.
I'd love to see someone go back and do a review of the different models that came out early and what they actually predicted versus what happened. (I don't know if anyone has done that work.)
What I'd like someone to do is go back to see if any of the Public Health experts predicted that we'd still be in this after a year and counting...
