Ontario orders all strip clubs to shut down as of midnight. Heads up

[Platon]

That wouldn't be a bad thing at all. The agencies aren't doing shit to curb the spread.

Thankfully some of us here have our rolodex of numbers ready to go when this eventuality arrives.

How can you even talk about them doing something about it when it comes to fluids exchange (and if you read the review section everybody wants DFK these days)? They can't do anything about it! I laugh when I read some indies are taking temperature at the door when it has been shown that you can be completely asymptomatic and transmit the virus for 90 days after contracting it People just need to relax a bit more and get back to normal as much as possible, if you are really sick stay home but other than that go about your life as usual. If the virus is here it's here for a while and there is no waiting it out.

 

[Ubersense]

The second wave is here.
If MPs and SPs were responsible, they’d shut down now.

Unless they can say with all honesty that they’re following all public health rules (ie. wearing masks.. which I know for a fact they’re not), and there have been absolutely no cases of COVID at their premises. Again, I’m extremely doubtful of that.

How long should we keep shutting down ? As I suspected this would happen. It’s flu season and they’re clearly lumping flu cases with covid. At first I was on board with this but the more I learned from actual healthcare professionals and those in the front line. One nurse who works at credit valley admitted they are getting paid more for listing other ailments as Covid.

In Europe my friends father passed away from a heart attack and the hospital asked the family if they wanted to list it as covid and they would get 2000 euros. They accepted it since it would cover their funeral costs. While filling out the paperwork they were told the hospital also gets 24,000 euros for listing it as covid.

Not denouncing covid. It is real for sure but is there a lot of contradictions and government overreach 1000%.

Now we know what this is about and how to deal with it we can live our lives alongside this. That’s what life is about: risk mitigation. There is never 100% eliminations of risks no matter what you do. No sense trying to play God.

Besides that, you know for sure even if they did shutdown they will continue seeing clients in secret. It’s just going to push this underground activity further. CERB is ending and bills still need to be paid. If anyone still believes this is truly about health/safety then that’s a good laugh.

 

[Ubersense]

How can you even talk about them doing something about it when it comes to fluids exchange (and if you read the review section everybody wants DFK these days)? They can't do anything about it! I laugh when I read some indies are taking temperature at the door when it has been shown that you can be completely asymptomatic and transmit the virus for 90 days after contracting it People just need to relax a bit more and get back to normal as much as possible, if you are really sick stay home but other than that go about your life as usual. If the virus is here it's here for a while and there is no waiting it out.

Exactly.

 

[y2kmark]

Wonder if massage parlours will follow shortly?

The same time or even first would seem to make more sense...

 

[AndrewX]

If the numbers keep going up, eventually they'll have to close bars too, people drink and don't give a shit what they do.

 

[hedo rick]

How long should we keep shutting down ? As I suspected this would happen. It’s flu season and they’re clearly lumping flu cases with covid. At first I was on board with this but the more I learned from actual healthcare professionals and those in the front line. One nurse who works at credit valley admitted they are getting paid more for listing other ailments as Covid.

In Europe my friends father passed away from a heart attack and the hospital asked the family if they wanted to list it as covid and they would get 2000 euros. They accepted it since it would cover their funeral costs. While filling out the paperwork they were told the hospital also gets 24,000 euros for listing it as covid.

Not denouncing covid. It is real for sure but is there a lot of contradictions and government overreach 1000%.

Now we know what this is about and how to deal with it we can live our lives alongside this. That’s what life is about: risk mitigation. There is never 100% eliminations of risks no matter what you do. No sense trying to play God.

Besides that, you know for sure even if they did shutdown they will continue seeing clients in secret. It’s just going to push this underground activity further. CERB is ending and bills still need to be paid. If anyone still believes this is truly about health/safety then that’s a good laugh.

How long? As long as it takes.
We need to either have a vaccine, or widely available, convenient, rapid testing (think: a girl gets tested before her shift, all guys get tested before their sessions).
It'd be one thing if the rules public heath put in place were being followed.. but they're being widely and blatantly disregarded. You reap what you sow.

I'm not even going to address your conspiracy theory BS, because that's exactly what it is..

 

[Platon]

How long? As long as it takes.
We need to either have a vaccine, or widely available, convenient, rapid testing (think: a girl gets tested before her shift, all guys get tested before their sessions).
It'd be one thing if the rules public heath put in place were being followed.. but they're being widely and blatantly disregarded. You reap what you sow.

I'm not even going to address your conspiracy theory BS, because that's exactly what it is..

How about we stop freaking out and take our 0.2% (or whatever the latest number is) chance of dying from covid and live our lives fully

 

[hedo rick]

How about we stop freaking out and take our 0.2% (or whatever the latest number is) chance of dying from covid and live our lives fully

Yeah, no. I quite like being alive and have no desire to.. not be.

 

[lkjh0987]

Yeah, no. I quite like being alive and have no desire to.. not be.

Clearly you don't know the difference between living a full life and surviving.

 

[Cheeta]

Normal day spas are open. They re-opened around the same time RMT massage/physio places which was around Aug 1st.

I've seen someone for massage, and active release for normal gym aches every 1-2 weeks since early Aug.
I've been to two day spas in Aug/Sept for facials and massage. I have myself booked at a spa in Niagara on the Lake again for next week.

As for the massage parlors, they should be fine from this as they don't draw crowds or no alcohol is being severed.

You have one on one visits, either by appointment or walk-in.
Which is no different than any visit to an optometrist, dentist, doctor, etc.

Is the place being disinfected? . I don't think so.

 

[K Douglas]

There is no evidence to show that bars/restaurants are responsible for spreading the virus yet we impose further restrictions on this already battered industry. WTF are we doing?

 

[lenny2]

How about we stop freaking out and take our 0.2% (or whatever the latest number is) chance of dying from covid and live our lives fully

How about we who are high risk not play fools games like Russian Roulette & not be subjected to it by the selfish irresponsible "young, dumb & full of cum" ;

"During June–August 2020, COVID-19 incidence was highest in persons aged 20–29 years, who accounted for >20% of all confirmed cases. Younger adults likely contribute to community transmission of COVID-19. Across the southern United States in June 2020, increases in percentage of positive SARS-CoV-2 test results among adults aged 20–39 years preceded increases among those aged ≥60 years by 4–15 days.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Strict adherence to community mitigation strategies and personal preventive behaviors by younger adults is needed to help reduce infection and subsequent transmission to persons at higher risk for severe illness."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6939e1.htm

The U.S. Government last week updated the SURVIVAL RATES (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:

USA
Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%
Source: CDC

So if one is 70+ there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Greater than 5%, or 5 in 100, or 1 in 20.

Also if a person is 50-69 there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Exactly 5 in 1000, or 1 in 200.

Anyone wanna play some "Russian Roulette". That's a fool's game.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Russian roulette
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/russian-roulette
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/russian-roulette

 

[lenny2]

Clearly you don't know the difference between living a full life and surviving.

Define living a "full life".

Ask 10 people & you'll get 10 different answers.

The answer has no objectively correct response, is subjective & will vary widely within human populations & in different parts of the world & times in history.

 

[hedo rick]

Actually it is, constantly too.
Girls are keeping masks on around each other, and they have the same room for an entire shift.
They disinfect the room before the first person of the day, and after every visit there after.

The girl working the front, is doing the same with door handles, and if anyone sat down.

Certainly I'd consider the spa much more cleaner and safer than a grocery store, mall or gym, and far less traffic than any of those.
As I said, the spa is on par with many other things like a dentist, optometrist, or RMT where its close and personal attention.

Are masks being worn in the room, in session, by everyone, always?
Because that's what dentists, optometrists, and RMTs are doing.. and it's what public health rules demand.

 

[lkjh0987]

It's certainly asked, and expected.

Stripclubs were the Wild West in plain sight. It had to be stopped. Massage Parlours have the semblance of order. Any hint of shutting down MP's will mean dentists are next. Dentists actually make blood and spit happen! And it goes all over the place!! Really surprised the Hysteric Germaphobes aren"t protesting to have these places shutdown.

 

[realthing69]

Stripclubs were the Wild West in plain sight. It had to be stopped. Massage Parlours have the semblance of order. Any hint of shutting down MP's will mean dentists are next. Dentists actually make blood and spit happen! And it goes all over the place!! Really surprised the Hysteric Germaphobes aren"t protesting to have these places shutdown.

Assuming MPs are following the rules 100%. Once inside the room, it's between two adults (extras are always there).

 

[lkjh0987]

Assuming MPs are following the rules 100%. Once inside the room, it's between two adults (extras are always there).

Just like we assume chefs at restaurants wash their hands after taking a dump at work and assume doctors sanitize in between pap smears. Whole system relies on assumptions. Face it, the whole world is always covered in shit. Sometimes you smell it and sometimes you don't. It's when you can't smell it that you have to be concerned.