Some masks better than others

[Phil C. McNasty]

Despite what facts say.

BTW, in case you missed it, N95 masks are listed so as they have at least a 95% efficient at stopping particles as small as 0.1 microns. Just like any other mask, they REDUCE transmission, not stop transmission.

Meanwhile a study of FDA approved surgical masks found that they were 98% efficient at 0.1 microns.

Filtration Performance of FDA-Cleared Surgical Masks - PMC

Ashortage of NIOSH-approved respirators is predicted during an influenza pandemic and other infectious disease outbreaks. Healthcare workers may use surgical masks instead of respirators due to non-availability and for economical reasons. This study ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I know that science won't change your opinion but facts are facts.

LOL....just when I thought your posts couldnt get any dumber, you prove me wrong
According to the study you posted (which I'll bet you didnt even read), the masks they used were FDA-cleared surgical masks. I post the exact quote from the study:

Five models of FDA-cleared surgical masks were tested for room air particle penetrations at constant and cyclic flow conditions. Penetrations of polydisperse NaCl aerosols (75±20 nm, count median diameter), monodisperse NaCl aerosols (20–400 nm range) and particles in the 20–1000 nm range were measured at 30 and 85 liters/min

Now lets look at the FDA website and see what they have to say about FDA-cleared surgical masks (NOTE: these are not the same as N95 masks).
Link: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...-respirators-surgical-masks-and-face-masks#s2

I have bolded in red the important relevant parts to help you understand better

Surgical Masks

A surgical mask is a loose-fitting, disposable device that creates a physical barrier between the mouth and nose of the wearer and potential contaminants in the immediate environment.

Surgical masks are made in different thicknesses and with different ability to protect you from contact with liquids. These properties may also affect how easily you can breathe through the face mask and how well the surgical mask protects you.

If worn properly, a surgical mask is meant to help block large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays, or splatter that may contain germs (viruses and bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth and nose. Surgical masks may also help reduce exposure of your saliva and respiratory secretions to others.

While a surgical mask may be effective in blocking splashes and large-particle droplets, a face mask, by design, does not filter or block very small particles in the air that may be transmitted by coughs, sneezes, or certain medical procedures. Surgical masks also do not provide complete protection from germs and other contaminants because of the loose fit between the surface of the mask and your face.

Surgical masks are not intended to be used more than once. If your mask is damaged or soiled, or if breathing through the mask becomes difficult, you should remove the face mask, discard it safely, and replace it with a new one. To safely discard your mask, place it in a plastic bag and put it in the trash. Wash your hands after handling the used mask

Now what did I tell you?? Surgical masks do not stop infected air that people breathe out from spreading to other people.

The only thing it stops is large droplets, but that doesnt really matter because most people (especially in the summer) arent coughing or sneezing, but rather they are breathing out their infected air to others.

Maybe now you'll understand why wearing masks made ZERO difference in our daily new infection rate, and actually may have made things worse because it gave people a false sense of security and caused people to cram buses, streetcars, subways....etc thinking they would be safe from the virus since everyone was wearing masks

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Great, a tweet from March before the science was in. Bet you still think bleeding is a good way to fix your humours

Did you read the part where it says "When used alone, masks can give you a false feeling of protection and can even be a source of infection when not used correctly".

That science still applies to today

 

[basketcase]

LOL....just when I thought your posts couldnt get any dumber, you prove me wrong
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So it's not just N95 masks that work, now surgical masks approved by the FDA work too? Look at those creeping goalposts.


And do we need to go back to those numbers we looked at of pore size, aerosol size, and respiratory droplet size? It's obvious that your refusal to admit masks reduce transmission is based not in facts but in the psychological need to prove yourself right.

 

[basketcase]

Did you read the part where it says "When used alone, masks can give you a false feeling of protection and can even be a source of infection when not used correctly".

That science still applies to today

So now your claim is we shouldn't bother with masks because some people don't wear them correctly?

p.s. that goes for your N95 as well as they need to be fitted properly

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So it's not just N95 masks that work, now surgical masks approved by the FDA work too? Look at those creeping goalposts.


And do we need to go back to those numbers we looked at of pore size, aerosol size, and respiratory droplet size? It's obvious that your refusal to admit masks reduce transmission is based not in facts but in the psychological need to prove yourself right

You have completely lost the plot now. But I'm not surprised

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So now your claim is we shouldn't bother with masks because some people don't wear them correctly?

p.s. that goes for your N95 as well as they need to be fitted properly

No, the point the CDC was making was if you dont clean your mask daily you could actually be making things worse.
But of course that flew right over your head, like everything else does

 

[basketcase]

You have completely lost the plot now. But I'm not surprised

You mean science can't follow the convoluted plot you've hatched?

 

[basketcase]

No, the point the CDC was making was if you dont clean your mask daily you could actually be making things worse.
But of course that flew right over your head, like everything else does

And you posted it as part of your crusade against masks because?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And you posted it as part of your crusade against masks because?

Crusade against the masks most people are currently wearing, genius.
And crusading for N95 masks

 

[squeezer]

Crusade against the masks most people are currently wearing, genius.
And crusading for N95 masks

Phil, straight up questions, where do you stand on mask wearing? What do you do during your daily routine when it comes to mask wearing? If you do wear one enlighten us on the proper usage, type and the do's and don'ts a true mask wearing expert practices. If you do not, just come clean and tell us you are an anti-masker and I promise, no judgement on my part. Well, at least publicly, I can't promise I won't be laughing and shaking my head. LOL

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Phil, straight up questions, where do you stand on mask wearing? What do you do during your daily routine when it comes to mask wearing? If you do wear one enlighten us on the proper usage, type and the do's and don'ts a true mask wearing expert practices. If you do not, just come clean and tell us you are an anti-masker and I promise, no judgement on my part. Well, at least publicly, I can't promise I won't be laughing and shaking my head. LOL

I wear an N95 mask every day. And I have a photo of my stash to prove it.
I microwave it for 2 minutes every day to destroy the germs

 

[squeezer]

I wear an N95 mask every day. And I have a photo of my stash to prove it.
I microwave it for 2 minutes every day to destroy the germs

That a boy! You are doing the right thing but you make it seem like you are fighting the mask ordinate when really you follow it to a tee.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

you make it seem like you are fighting the mask ordinate when really you follow it to a tee

Only to those who dont read my posts properly

 

[squeezer]

Only to those who dont read my posts properly

If you follow the mask guideline why would you discourage anyone from wearing a mask be it cloth or any other type. A covered nose and mouth is better than no covering at all. In your posts you constantly bring up N95s and discourage other types. I agree the N95 is a great mask but the effectiveness of 95% is when it is fitted for a complete seal. I've worn N95s, 2 and 3 layer cloth, medical and have never had an issue and I've been in some very busy places. I'll avoid 1 layer cloth unless I have no choice.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If you follow the mask guideline why would you discourage anyone from wearing a mask be it cloth or any other type. A covered nose and mouth is better than no covering at all

No, because the virus is airborne. Those flimsy masks people wear lets all the air go through.
Might as well wear a sieve on your face while you're at it

 

[squeezer]

No, because the virus is airborne. Those flimsy masks people wear lets all the air go through.
Might as well wear a sieve on your face while you're at it

If you think the virus gets through 3 layers or a medical mask you are mistaken. If you're IN front of someone sneezing without a mask and your mask is not sealed properly, then yes, regardless of mask the virus can get in. Through the unsealed portion, perhaps through the eyes. This is why if everyone wears the masks the odds of spreading are miniscule. Plus, none of this leaving the nose exposed nonsense.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If you think the virus gets through 3 layers or a medical mask you are mistaken

It doesnt have to get through the 3 layers, it just has to get around it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312810470449979392

 

[shack]

Phil, tastes differ, but I think this latest sig pic is the least attractive of any you have used. Maybe she'd be more attractive with a mask.

 

[basketcase]

I wear an N95 mask every day. And I have a photo of my stash to prove it.
I microwave it for 2 minutes every day to destroy the germs

Where did you get the fit testing for them or are you one of the people that tweet mentioned about improper mask use?

 

[basketcase]

It doesnt have to get through the 3 layers, it just has to get around it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312810470449979392

Like with an N95 mask that hasn't been fitted properly?