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So, what do you think? Be careful or a huge hook will drop from the sky and grab you by the neck and deposit your body in Lake Ontario.
Russell Peters
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So, what do you think? Be careful or a huge hook will drop from the sky and grab you by the neck and deposit your body in Lake Ontario.
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I'm not going to read an essay by some liberal indian academic probably dating a white guy.
I'm not going to read an essay by some liberal indian academic probably dating a white guy.
Didn't read the dissertation. He is an unfunny fuck. Hack of the worst order.
I will admit that I like Peters. I get a kick out of his impression of his mother saying to him, "Russell, you're getting older" and the like. (The Indians in the audience positively laugh their heads off at that one.) Also love his stories about going to the Pacific Mall and haggling with a Chinese guy for 50 cents.
But the larger issue is that of comedy in the age of the woke / Social Justice Warrior mentality where everything that guys like Peters do, or Chris Rock does, or the like is targeted for censorship. The so called cancel culture. We clearly saw this (in my opinion) in the case of Louis CK. The guy jerked off in front of a couple of women who consented to watch him blow a load by his own hand and yet the howls of outrage in the metoo culture drove the guy out of business. Sorry, I don't agree. They were grown women who consented to watch a grown man jerk off. They made a decision, live with the consequences. End of story. I don't buy the "he was in a position of authority". Fuck that, put your big girl pants on and say "not interested" and walk out. I really doubt that Louis CK would care.
It seems to me that more and more we are living in the most up fucking tight era I can remember over the course of my entire life. More and more it seems like snowflakes are crying about this being offensive or that being racist, or misogynistic, etc. etc. It used to be that liberals would protest against censorship. Now, it's the exact opposite. Liberals are the worst proponents in favour of censorship. It boggles my mind. We live in a time that more and more would make the Victorians proud.
I truly believe in freedom of speech and self censorship. It's really easy, if you don't like it, don't watch it, don't go, don't listen. But fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you want to make it your mission in life to shut a comedian like Peters or Rock et al down.
But the larger issue is that of comedy in the age of the woke / Social Justice Warrior mentality where everything that guys like Peters do, or Chris Rock does, or the like is targeted for censorship. The so called cancel culture. We clearly saw this (in my opinion) in the case of Louis CK. The guy jerked off in front of a couple of women who consented to watch him blow a load by his own hand and yet the howls of outrage in the metoo culture drove the guy out of business. Sorry, I don't agree. They were grown women who consented to watch a grown man jerk off. They made a decision, live with the consequences. End of story. I don't buy the "he was in a position of authority". Fuck that, put your big girl pants on and say "not interested" and walk out. I really doubt that Louis CK would care.
It seems to me that more and more we are living in the most up fucking tight era I can remember over the course of my entire life. More and more it seems like snowflakes are crying about this being offensive or that being racist, or misogynistic, etc. etc. It used to be that liberals would protest against censorship. Now, it's the exact opposite. Liberals are the worst proponents in favour of censorship. It boggles my mind. We live in a time that more and more would make the Victorians proud.
I truly believe in freedom of speech and self censorship. It's really easy, if you don't like it, don't watch it, don't go, don't listen. But fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you want to make it your mission in life to shut a comedian like Peters or Rock et al down.
Don't really care that much what Louis CK did. Seems harmless in comparison to some. Although I can't imagine what he got out of it. And while he isn't thigh slappingly hilarious,all the time, he is pretty fucking funny. and original, and creative. He nails it shut when he is on. He isn't an annoying hack.
He lives in a mansion in LA so a lot of people must find him funny. I recall finding his stuff humorous, but it's been a while since I've seen him. Aries spears does mostly race stuff and I find him funny.
Race humour can be funny as long as the intent isn't too dark and offensive.
Race humour can be funny as long as the intent isn't too dark and offensive.
Today's society is messed up big time.
Humor these days must adhere to some fcked up rules.
It's funny or it's not.
I remember making jokes with some deeply religious people and my humor is often naughty. They laughed their asses off until they realized that some force that guides them deemed it inappropriate to laugh at. All of a sudden they did a 180 and said No, it's not funny. All I could do is rewind the whole occurrence in my head of them laughing hard.
We live in a hypocritical time, goddammit.
All i can do is laugh when i find it funny and if you don't like it - well, go fck yourself.
Humor these days must adhere to some fcked up rules.
It's funny or it's not.
I remember making jokes with some deeply religious people and my humor is often naughty. They laughed their asses off until they realized that some force that guides them deemed it inappropriate to laugh at. All of a sudden they did a 180 and said No, it's not funny. All I could do is rewind the whole occurrence in my head of them laughing hard.
We live in a hypocritical time, goddammit.
All i can do is laugh when i find it funny and if you don't like it - well, go fck yourself.
I have always liked him. He pokes at race in a humourous way.
Russell Peters is great.
Russell Peters is great.
If someone makes a generalization of a group of people, whether positive or negative, based on nothing more than their race, that is the definition of a racist/racial stereotypical comment.
Why do you think that it isn't?
He used to be funny. I watched some of his newer standup and it sucked. And he hasn't aged well, he looks like crap and his mood is bitter. Sad. Good memories of him when I was a kid.
Not necessarily.
Every nation has it's quirks. If a comedian finds it and expoits it - he's not a racist or nazi.
When a Canadian bumps into another person, they apologize. What the EF is that, eh? Nothing wrong with making jokes about it.
Nations, races, ethnicities - all have some traits and quirks that can be made fun of. It takes intelligence to even distinguish what those are. The key is delivery. It has to be smart and neutral somewhat.
George Carlin, just as an example, was making fun of just about anything and was a master at it. Lighten up and have some laughs. Life is too short to be uptight all the time.
"...comedy is less about being funny and more about Indoctrination by comedic disposition.... People aren't really laughing at it as much as cheering on the rhetoric. It no longer resembles a comedy show, it's more like some kind of liberal Klan meeting." Rob Schneider on modern comedy.
Peters used(still?) have a great shtick and was very good at it.
Peters used(still?) have a great shtick and was very good at it.
I am definitely not a snowflake when it comes to jokes about ethnicities especially when, as you mentioned, it has a good delivery. I think I posted a Newfie joke in the thread.
My only point is that, even if it is a well-intentioned compliment, such as Asians are smart and hard-working, is by definition a racist comment. That person is making a generalized statement/assumption attributing specific qualities to a whole race based on nothing other than the race itself. It is stereotyping. It is the very definition of a racist comment.
Wikipedia: Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.
Merriam Webster:
Definition of racism
a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
Using the example above, I am not claiming that somebody who says that Asians are smart and hard working, has any prejudice against Asians and has no malintent. They are probably admiring of Asians. But ascribing certain qualities (whether positive or not) to a person or people because they are a certain race, is a racist comment that meets the criteria of those definitions. And when somebody says something complimentary about a race, there is no shame in admitting that it can be interpreted as racist as it is clear that there is no malice or hate or ill will is intended.
My point is based on facts (an accepted definition) and applying those facts to arrive at a logical end point.
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In his early years he was as funny a comedian as anyone on TV. However, in the last few years the majority of his jokes contained the worst expletive content I have ever heard without any humour at all. He has run out of any original humour. In other words, HE SUCKS.Canadian Journal of Communication
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So, what do you think? Be careful or a huge hook will drop from the sky and grab you by the neck and deposit your body in Lake Ontario.
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I was going to read the article until I scrolled through it & saw how incredibly long it is. Are u kidding me? Does this prof have nothing better to write about?
