Some masks better than others

Phil C. McNasty

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Once again, you conveniently omit the size of the DROPLETS. The virus is not exhaled as a solitary entity. It is encased in droplets which are much larger than 0.1 microns.

As such this post of yours is irrelevant.
FALSE!!!!!!!!!!

Covid-19 can be breathed, sneezed or coughed out as free virus particles, in addition to droplets.
You really need to do some research before you pretend to know what you're talking about


Read: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87416

Hundreds of epidemiologists from around the world sent a letter to the World Health Organization (WHO) asserting that people can contract SARS-CoV-2 infection from airborne virions -- free virus particles floating in the air, as distinct from aerosol droplets. In this exclusive MedPage Today video, David Aronoff, MD, of Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, reviews what we know about COVID-19 transmission dynamics, and what types of research could help pinpoint the spread of the virus in the future
 

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And do you really think a non-N95 mask can stop microscopic viral particles coming out of your nose at 100MPH??
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You really just wriggle around to avoid your failures.

If the pore size in the mask is 0.3 microns, a larger particle will not get through no matter the speed. Some might go around the mask if poorly fitted but that is the wearer, not the mask.

And still waiting for your evidence that free-floating virions are being transmitted and causing infection and not the aerosol droplets that are stopped by the mask.
 
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You need a study with two groups of people, one which always wears masks as recommended and another of equal size that never wear masks and both exposed to the same environment for the same length of time. If they have the same level of infection then you are correct. Otherwise you are just making assumptions that fit your agenda. You have never provided one iota of PROOF. Only faulty studies that DO NOT eliminate all variables aside from mask wearing.
We have had things approaching it that made places like South Dakota one of the US hot spots. Not fully controlled but it sure makes it a reasonable conclusion that jurisdictions with no mask mandates do poorly despite limited population density.
 

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FALSE!!!!!!!!!!

Covid-19 can be breathed, sneezed or coughed out as free virus particles, in addition to droplets.
You really need to do some research before you pretend to know what you're talking about


Read: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87416
And where in that study do they document that these free virions are responsible for any noticeable number of infections? Oh that's right, they don't.

Even if those free particles did cause infection, respiratory droplets and aerosolized droplets represent the vector for most infections so masks significantly reduce infections by limiting them.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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And still waiting for your evidence that free-floating virions are being transmitted and causing infection and not the aerosol droplets that are stopped by the mask.
There have been a bunch of studies that suggest Covid can be spread through free-floating viral particles.
I will post them for you since you apparently need to be educated on it.

But first, are you and shack going to admit you didnt know Covid-19 can be breathed, sneezed or coughed out as free virus particles, in addition to droplets??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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And where in that study do they document that these free virions are responsible for any noticeable number of infections? Oh that's right, they don't
Are you really this dense?? Its right in the article
Hundreds of epidemiologists from around the world sent a letter to the World Health Organization (WHO) asserting that people can contract SARS-CoV-2 infection from airborne virions -- free virus particles floating in the air, as distinct from aerosol droplets
 

squeezer

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Are you really this dense?? Its right in the article

SO is wearing masks, so what's the problem? LOL

If airborne transmission is a significant factor in the pandemic, especially in crowded spaces with poor ventilation, the consequences for containment will be significant. Masks may be needed indoors, even in socially-distant settings. Health care workers may need N95 masks that filter out even the smallest respiratory droplets as they care for coronavirus patients.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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SO is wearing masks, so what's the problem? LOL

If airborne transmission is a significant factor in the pandemic, especially in crowded spaces with poor ventilation, the consequences for containment will be significant. Masks may be needed indoors, even in socially-distant settings. Health care workers may need N95 masks that filter out even the smallest respiratory droplets as they care for coronavirus patients.
Which is why I said numerous times only N95 masks work, not those flimsy masks most people are currently wearing
 

squeezer

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Which is why I said numerous times only N95 masks work, not those flimsy masks most people are currently wearing
Here is an article for you. Might be useful for you when you can't get your sticky fingers on a N95. . I believe John Hopkins is a reliable source unlike some of the bullshit nonsense some link up on here.

 

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Which is why I said numerous times only N95 masks work, not those flimsy masks most people are currently wearing
If you don't wanna wear a mask or only think N95 are acceptable or are not gonna get a vaccine for a year, fine that's your choice/opinion/decision.

I just hope you are not in a position of influence over others...
 

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Here is an article for you. Might be useful for you when you can't get your sticky fingers on a N95. . I believe John Hopkins is a reliable source unlike some of the bullshit nonsense some link up on here.

There's a lot of articles like that...some people just refuse to believe them...it's good that the ant-maskers are in a minority and hopefully are not in a position of influence.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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If you don't wanna wear a mask or only think N95 are acceptable or are not gonna get a vaccine for a year, fine that's your choice/opinion/decision.

I just hope you are not in a position of influence over others...
I do wear a mask, I just dont think they've made any difference in reducing the spread.

Our 2nd Ontario wave is almost three times as bad as our 1st wave.
How anyone with a straight face can say masks have made a difference is beyond me
 

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There's a lot of articles like that...some people just refuse to believe them...it's good that the ant-maskers are in a minority and hopefully are not in a position of influence.
Really, BJ, Adam the douchebag do not have a position of influence? Dude, you're ruining my morning man!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This is you guys in a nutshell 😂

 

squeezer

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I do wear a mask, I just dont think they've made any difference in reducing the spread.

Our 2nd Ontario wave is almost three times as bad as our 1st wave.
How anyone with a straight face can say masks have made a difference is beyond me
Much of the spread is from indoor gatherings. Also, many do NOT wear or handle their masks properly. Under the nose or as a chin guard is a perfect recipe for getting COVID and then claiming "but I always wear my mask". Also, I don't buy the schools are not a problem. Yes within the school it's controlled but these kids are gathering after school and recess and spreading it to one another and bringing it home. Yet, much is hidden as to not shut the schools down and have parents forced to stay home to babysit. When people meet up with friends and family they get a false sense of security. They remove the mask, have a coffee at the table and just like that, you get cases.

Masks used properly will work, carelessness will not.
 

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I do wear a mask, I just dont think they've made any difference in reducing the spread.

Our 2nd Ontario wave is almost three times as bad as our 1st wave.
How anyone with a straight face can say masks have made a difference is beyond me
There are lots of qualified people with tons of credentials that say they do.
 

squeezer

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This is you guys in a nutshell 😂

I guess you've never been in a meeting, presented with a thousand papers a day before hand? You believe most sit and read every single page? It's more like a quick skim and off to the meeting. If you are an expert in your field, you adapt and roll with it. These folks are IN front of the camera, so of course they are given somewhat of a script as to not say the wrong gotcha phrase, like happened here because of a dumbass hot mic moment LOL.
 
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