Some masks better than others

[squeezer]

Double d'uh.

Those droplets that contain the virions are bigger than the pores in the mask by at least 3X. The masks will stop a lot of the virions because they are not free but encased in the droplets.

Exactly my point and totally disproves yours. Masks make a difference.

Do you feel this is you on some days?

 

[shack]

Do you feel this is you on some days?

Oh yeah. Fortunately I'm not the only one. The support of some normal people is refreshing.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Double d'uh.

Those droplets that contain the virions are bigger than the pores in the mask by at least 3X. The masks will stop a lot of the virions because they are not free but encased in the droplets.

Exactly my point and totally disproves yours. Masks make a difference.

I see you're still having a hard time with this. What happens in addition to a cough or a sneeze that releases droplets??
Lets see if you can figure this out

 

[shack]

I see you're still having a hard time with this. What happens in addition to a cough or a sneeze that releases droplets??
Lets see if you can figure this out

What happens when an object that is 1.0microns in size tries to get through an opening that is 0.3 microns?

I'll even give you a hint. Try to remember when you were a little kid and what happened when you tried to put that square block through the round hole. It's a very similar situation. I suspect you figured it out then and hopefully you still can.

That answers your question.

 

[basketcase]

I see you're still having a hard time with this. What happens in addition to a cough or a sneeze that releases droplets??
Lets see if you can figure this out

Are you talking about Rudy infecting the other lawyer through farts?

Or are you just farting here.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

What happens when an object that is 1.0microns in size tries to get through an opening that is 0.3 microns?

I'll even give you a hint. Try to remember when you were a little kid and what happened when you tried to put that square block through the round hole. It's a very similar situation. I suspect you figured it out then and hopefully you still can.

That answers your question.

Fail!

The answer is when you sneeze you release droplets but you also release infected air at 100MPH.
See here: https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=s...ch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=

So you are right that a mask would stop large droplets, but in no way will it stop all the air you just sneezed.
A lot of that will go right through the porous most masks people wear these days.

Also, if you're standing in line inside a store thats not well ventilated all that air you breath out will linger aroud people who are standing next to you.
Read this: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200921/ccd-says-breathing-can-spread-covid-then-reverses

The CDC has once again said that yes, COVID can spread when people simply breathe in virus particles that are suspended in the air.

The revised guidelines posted Oct. 5 says that COVID can be spread by “droplets and particles that can linger in the air for minutes to hours.” The droplets can infect people further than 6 feet away from the person or after the person has left the area.

It also said it’s possible for the virus to spread more than 6 feet in enclosed spaces with bad ventilation. Activities that can cause heavy breathing, such as singing and exercising, are linked to the spread

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

What happens when an object that is 1.0microns in size tries to get through an opening that is 0.3 microns?

I'll even give you a hint. Try to remember when you were a little kid and what happened when you tried to put that square block through the round hole. It's a very similar situation. I suspect you figured it out then and hopefully you still can.

That answers your question

And of course you are wrong about the size of the coronavirus.
It is not 1.0 microns, its approximately 0.12 microns.
So thanks for proving my point that infected air would pas right through most masks.

See here: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/...t-masks-after-cdc-updates-its-recommendation/

The idea behind an N95 mask is it has a filtering ability down to, and actually below, the size of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. So the coronavirus is about 0.12 microns in diameter and N95 (masks) protect down to 0.1 microns, with 95% efficiency, which is where it gets its name

 

[shack]

And of course you are wrong about the size of the coronavirus.
It is not 1.0 microns, its approximately 0.12 microns.
So thanks for proving my point that infected air would pas right through most masks.

See here: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/...t-masks-after-cdc-updates-its-recommendation/

I think that you intentionally ignore data that you don't like. It has previously been stated that the virion itself is 0.12 microns but they are not free floating. They are in the droplets and the droplets are as small as 1.0 microns, bigger than the pores in the mask.

You also state that there are some big droplets and some small droplets which is correct. What % are big and what % are small?

Regardless, you admitted that SOME droplets are stopped, which means that masks provide SOME PROTECTION. You've lost the debate as you've said that they provide no protection.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I think that you intentionally ignore data that you don't like. It has previously been stated that the virion itself is 0.12 microns but they are not free floating. They are in the droplets and the droplets are as small as 1.0 microns, bigger than the pores in the mask.

You also state that there are some big droplets and some small droplets which is correct. What % are big and what % are small?

Regardless, you admitted that SOME droplets are stopped, which means that masks provide SOME PROTECTION. You've lost the debate as you've said that they provide no protection.

What difference does it make if a mask stops the small droplets, but not the microscopic droplets that are under 1.0 microns and can pass freely through a mask?? Either way you're still gonna get infected

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

2,300 new cases today. But yeah okay, masks are working great
(and yes there were slight counting differences, but thats still way too many cases)

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[shack]

What difference does it make if a mask stops the small droplets, but not the microscopic droplets that are under 1.0 microns and can pass freely through a mask?? Either way you're still gonna get infected

The less droplets get through, the less chance you get infected.

What percent of the aerosol are microscopic? What percent is larger? I have not heard of microscopic droplets that small.

You seem to assume that if 1 droplet gets through, it will find you like radar and never miss you, it will always find a place on your body that leads to a mucous membrane and you will be 100% guaranteed to be infected by that 1 droplet. That is not realistic.

 

[shack]

2,300 new cases today. But yeah okay, masks are working great
(and yes there were slight counting differences, but thats still way too many cases)

It's always a happy day for Phil when lots of people get sick. You should send each person a thank you note for getting infected.

 

[basketcase]

Fail!

The answer is when you sneeze you release droplets but you also release infected air at 100MPH.
...

Were you not aware that masks can cover your nose?

 

[basketcase]

And of course you are wrong about the size of the coronavirus.
It is not 1.0 microns, its approximately 0.12 microns.
...

Hmm. That site says nothing about viral particles travelling on their own through the air being a vector. Strange to see you quoting a site to prove masks work when it clearly is advocating the effectiveness of masks.

 

[squeezer]

Hmm. That site says nothing about viral particles travelling on their own through the air being a vector. Strange to see you quoting a site to prove masks work when it clearly is advocating the effectiveness of masks.

It is not strange at all in the Twilight Zone!

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The less droplets get through, the less chance you get infected.

What percent of the aerosol are microscopic? What percent is larger? I have not heard of microscopic droplets that small.

You seem to assume that if 1 droplet gets through, it will find you like radar and never miss you, it will always find a place on your body that leads to a mucous membrane and you will be 100% guaranteed to be infected by that 1 droplet. That is not realistic

The vast majority of infected breath is at the microscopic level. Its you who doesnt seem to understand this.
Have a look at this chart, maybe this will help you. Notice how tiny the Covid-19 viral particle is versus the pore of most masks people wear

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

It's always a happy day for Phil when lots of people get sick. You should send each person a thank you note for getting infected

Again, I told you last time I'm laughing at guys like you who still think masks are making a difference.
I dont laugh at people getting sick or dying.

But you like to twist things around and point fingers. What you're really trying to do is deflect attention away from the subject of the thread, which is most masks people are wearing these days dont do a damn thing

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Hmm. That site says nothing about viral particles travelling on their own through the air being a vector. Strange to see you quoting a site to prove masks work when it clearly is advocating the effectiveness of masks

Hey smartypants, the site advocates people wear N95 masks, which is what I've been saying all along.
But you have reading comprehension issues, so why am I not surprised

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Were you not aware that masks can cover your nose?

And do you really think a non-N95 mask can stop microscopic viral particles coming out of your nose at 100MPH??

 

[Fun For All]

Hey smartypants, the site advocates people wear N95 masks, which is what I've been saying all along.
But you have reading comprehension issues, so why am I not surprised

Haven't heard a 'smartypants' reference in years...you a grade 6 teacher from the 60s or something?