[?]Is COVID a hoax?

basketcase

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Constantine allowed pagan worship to continue. He didn't dictate anyone's religion. Even the Goths who sacked Rome were a kind of Christian, and clearly not under Rome's rule.
Do you think Constantine was the only emperor? Books; try them

If you want to look at the Eastern Romans/Byzantines, I'd recommend the conflict against Arian Christianity but there is plenty written on the adoption of Christianity in the first place. Essentially, one the boss and all the other big shots were pushing it, your choices were to either follow along or be left out.
 

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I assume the fruit flies are still fruit flies, and not some other type.
There is actually a distinct evolutionary group they are referring to commonly as dark-flies (one group has been in a light free environment). if you really want you could look up the scientific name for the new species.
 

Mr.Know-It-All

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The virus is just a false flag operation by antifa, BLM, Hillary Clinton, and George Soros to cover it up and also steal the election.
"In reality, it's not me that they're after. They're after you. I'm just in the way." - Trump
 

Mr.Know-It-All

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Have that idiot come and talk to my daughter. She WAS a healthy mid 20's girl who now can't do anywhere near what she used to because of COVID, and has breathing difficulties nearly 4 months after recovery.

Anti maskers and COVID deniers are not welcomed by me.
With all due respect, your anecdotal experience has little relevance in a discussion about statistics and analytics. I feel for you and your daughter, and your situation is bound to pull on the heartstrings around here, but that doesn't make it relevant.
 

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The scientists ordered the fruit flies to maintain social distancing. They are watching how long it will take for the flies to develop a middle finger and show it to them.
LOL.

BTW, let's hope a new virus doesn't get in fruit flies & become another pandemic in humans ;
 

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More scientific illiteracy.

Everything in science is a theory because science always accepts the possibility that future evidence and theories might offer a better explanation.

As for evolution, we have plenty of evidence that it is happening and have a fairly good understanding of how. A simple example is the way covid has mutated allowing it to spread more easily but be less deadly.
Go read up on Transposons as I quoted to previous poster
They DIRECTLY contradict the classic theory of evolution

(And ironically a Virus such as Covid can even CAUSE a Transposon so this thread is quite relevant for todays news)
 

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Have that idiot come and talk to my daughter. She WAS a healthy mid 20's girl who now can't do anywhere near what she used to because of COVID, and has breathing difficulties nearly 4 months after recovery.

Anti maskers and COVID deniers are not welcomed by me.
So why exactly did you let your daughter out of your bomb shelter?
She should have ducked and covered
 

jerimander

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The so-called look inside a COVID ward in Alberta on CBC news seemed to show mostly empty beds.
 

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With all due respect, your anecdotal experience has little relevance in a discussion about statistics and analytics. I feel for you and your daughter, and your situation is bound to pull on the heartstrings around here, but that doesn't make it relevant.
So why exactly did you let your daughter out of your bomb shelter?
She should have ducked and covered
There's some stinky bait being cast here. Nope, nope, nope.
 

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The scientists ordered the fruit flies to maintain social distancing. They are watching how long it will take for the flies to develop a middle finger and show it to them.
Are you comparing the intelligence of covid deniers to fruit flies?
 

basketcase

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With all due respect, your anecdotal experience has little relevance in a discussion about statistics and analytics. I feel for you and your daughter, and your situation is bound to pull on the heartstrings around here, but that doesn't make it relevant.
How about the statistics of approaching 12,000 dead Canadian?
 

basketcase

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Go read up on Transposons as I quoted to previous poster
They DIRECTLY contradict the classic theory of evolution

(And ironically a Virus such as Covid can even CAUSE a Transposon so this thread is quite relevant for todays news)
Neat, you learned a big word. Which conspiracy selling youtuber taught you that?

Next step you should actually try and understand what they are because they sure as hell do not contradict evolution.
 

TeeJay

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Neat, you learned a big word. Which conspiracy selling youtuber taught you that?

Next step you should actually try and understand what they are because they sure as hell do not contradict evolution.
Naw man I read
Things called books and all
(I also quoted a good title from a very reputable source above)

You feel free to get your info from FaceBook and YouTube and Twitter

Obvious now you are a millennial
 

basketcase

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Naw man I read
Things called books and all
(I also quoted a good title from a very reputable source above)

You feel free to get your info from FaceBook and YouTube and Twitter

Obvious now you are a millennial
Sorry but parler isn't a reputable source.

And instead of relying on insults, perhaps you can explain to me how transposons prove evolution isn't happening. I'm sur ethe scientific community would also benefit from you setting them straight.
 

Rako3

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Okay, I read the Wikipedia article on transposons. And...um...yes, how do they have anything to do with evolution, except as providing an engine for mutation, upon which evolution depends?
 

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its a fucking hoax! you also need to identify the virus to treat it! . in witch they have not! look at a covid pic! then an HIV ! they look pretty fucking alike, if not the same. So I ask you!? Vaccine 95% effective? against or for what?...... Have a good one!
 

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Okay, I read the Wikipedia article on transposons. And...um...yes, how do they have anything to do with evolution, except as providing an engine for mutation, upon which evolution depends?
Depending on who you believe as much as 8% of human DNA has been altered (eg through a virus)
Evolution is "natural selection" based on Darwin's classic theory
A mutation is NOT always heritable (hence evolution is not fully valid)

If you want more detailed explanation as I said there are books on the matter (which obv go into more detail than say Wiki could possibly)


There must be variation among the traits of the individuals of a reproducing population, this variation must be heritable to some degree, and this heritable variation must have an effect on the differential ability of individuals to survive and reproduce in order for differential reproduction to occur. The individual variants that leave more offspring are said to be fitter or better adapted. Therefore, natural selection is usually described as differential reproduction resulting from differential fitness within a shared environment.


There also are more severe issues with us humans. Evolution in no way predicts or explains consciousness. Our brains are a severe issue with the evolutionary chain.
 

Rako3

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Google "Transposons". The very first entry that appears:

"Transposons are segments of DNA that can move around to different positions in the genome of a single cell. In the process, they may. cause mutations. increase (or decrease) the amount of DNA in the genome of the cell, and if the cell is the precursor of a gamete, in the genomes of any descendants. "

So when you say "A mutation is NOT heritable (hence evolution is not valid)" you are directly contradicting the science. Does that mean the science is wrong, or that you are uninformed? Without knowing that you're a Nobel Prize winner with a body of work to back up your supposition, I'd go with science.
 

Rako3

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its a fucking hoax! you also need to identify the virus to treat it! . in witch they have not! look at a covid pic! then an HIV ! they look pretty fucking alike, if not the same. So I ask you!? Vaccine 95% effective? against or for what?...... Have a good one!
This is a new one. Determining the similarity of Covid and HIV based on the graphics chosen to illustrate news stories.

Actually, isn't HIV red, and Covid green? That's what the pictures looked like in one story on CNN...
 
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