The election litigation thread

[Valcazar]

Wow.
Not to mention this demand that the Trump campaign count the votes themselves.

This may cause Rudy more trouble then adjusting his pants on film did.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329184956132847616

It is interesting to see him be so up front about the plan, but even the people on this board supporting him seem to have been aware that "make the legislatures flip" was the goal.
Dutch Oven is clear that the point is just to stall until they get to the Supreme Court and that the certification deadline will hopefully have passed.

The issue is that even if they are stopped here, they have done a test run on where the weak points are. A lot of work will have to be done to preserve free and fair elections because the GOP is no longer even pretending they won't overthrow the will of the voters as soon as they are able.

 

[kherg007]

It is interesting to see him be so up front about the plan, but even the people on this board supporting him seem to have been aware that "make the legislatures flip" was the goal.
Dutch Oven is clear that the point is just to stall until they get to the Supreme Court and that the certification deadline will hopefully have passed.

The issue is that even if they are stopped here, they have done a test run on where the weak points are. A lot of work will have to be done to preserve free and fair elections because the GOP is no longer even pretending they won't overthrow the will of the voters as soon as they are able.

So true. Tom Friedman asks that question in the NY Times as to whether the republicans can ever be trusted in power again. A smarter person would have tried what the Fidesz party and its leader Victor Orban did in Hungary. His party can control parliament w just 40% of the vote. When judges blocked his authoritarian agenda, they passed a law making all judges over 65 retire - which took out about half the judiciary - then pack the courts with loyalists who allowed their anti democratic agenda through unscathed.

I don't know why allegedly "freedom loving" yanks aren't scared shitless of Trump (instead of cult worshipping him). It's the right screaming most about freedom yet they practice it the least. Sure they go after the far left pc bs (and correctly so imho) but that is minor compared to living in a totalitarian state.

 

[Valcazar]

So true. Tom Friedman asks that question in the NY Times as to whether the republicans can ever be trusted in power again.

Think about that. Friedman is not a smart man and has a terrible understanding of political reality. If even Tom "The Mustache of Understanding" Friedman says something like that, you can tell the GOP has gotten pretty damn extreme.

A smarter person would have tried what the Fidesz party and its leader Victor Orban did in Hungary. His party can control parliament w just 40% of the vote. When judges blocked his authoritarian agenda, they passed a law making all
judges over 65 retire - which took out about half the judiciary - then pack the courts with loyalists who allowed their anti democratic agenda through unscathed.

What do you think the GOP has been doing for the last 10 years? The Federal court system is wildly reactionary for a reason. They just didn't think they could do it all in one stroke like Orban (and were probably right).
But they've been installing cronies in the system non stop. McConnell can't bring laws to the floor of the Senate or work on COVID-relief but he can find time to confirm 33-year olds who are "loyal" to lifetime appointments as judges.

I don't know why allegedly "freedom loving" yanks aren't scared shitless of Trump (instead of cult worshipping him). It's the right screaming most about freedom yet they practice it the least. Sure they go after the far left pc bs (and correctly so imho) but that is minor compared to living in a totalitarian state.

Because "freedom loving yanks" are perfectly fine with authoritarianism as long as they think it will be directed at others for their benefit.
What belief in 'Freedom' they have is "Freedom to" not " Freedom from". (Or to put it another way, they say "liberty" when they mean "license".)

 

[Frankfooter]

So true. Tom Friedman asks that question in the NY Times as to whether the republicans can ever be trusted in power again. A smarter person would have tried what the Fidesz party and its leader Victor Orban did in Hungary. His party can control parliament w just 40% of the vote. When judges blocked his authoritarian agenda, they passed a law making all judges over 65 retire - which took out about half the judiciary - then pack the courts with loyalists who allowed their anti democratic agenda through unscathed.

I don't know why allegedly "freedom loving" yanks aren't scared shitless of Trump (instead of cult worshipping him). It's the right screaming most about freedom yet they practice it the least. Sure they go after the far left pc bs (and correctly so imho) but that is minor compared to living in a totalitarian state.

Its probably the reason that Hungary and Poland have the governments they do, keep flooding the media with messages for the 'believers'.
Same way that most republicans now think the election wasn't legit, just through Trump, Fox and social media attacks.

Even here on this board we have people who have bought in.

 

[toguy5252]

Its probably the reason that Hungary and Poland have the governments they do, keep flooding the media with messages for the 'believers'.
Same way that most republicans now think the election wasn't legit, just through Trump, Fox and social media attacks.

Even here on this board we have people who have bought in.

Todays GOP has transcended politics and issues and become a cult of personality. many of the policies promoted by the soon to be former autocrat wannabe in chief would have been completely antithetical to GOP dogma 6 years ago.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Trump lawyers will be giving a press conference at 12 pm today to outline the litigation path for Trump to win the election.

 

[toguy5252]

Trump lawyers will be giving a press conference at 12 pm today to outline the litigation path for Trump to win the election.

Strategy = Throw a lot of shit against the wall, hope something ticks enough to get the SCOTUS to take then case and then call in your markers. This will be the real test of Roberts loyalty to the institution rather than the party.

 

[squeezer]

Trump lawyers will be giving a press conference at 12 pm today to outline the litigation path for Trump to win the election.

Didn't you mean STEAL THE ELECTION??

Trump Wants to Steal the Election by Disenfranchising Thousands of Black Voters

The Republican strategy has been on display in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania—all states that Trump won in 2016 but which Biden carried in 2020.

www.vanityfair.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/18/first-big-test-trumps-attempt-steal-electoral-college-was-failure/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/18/how-trump-tried-steal-michigan/

Think Trump's plans to steal the election have failed? Look closer

Surely Republicans would never stage a ludicrous constitutional end-around with Brett Kavanaugh's help, would they?

www.salon.com

 

[Dutch Oven]

Strategy = Throw a lot of shit against the wall, hope something ticks enough to get the SCOTUS to take then case and then call in your markers. This will be the real test of Roberts loyalty to the institution rather than the party.

Can't wait for Christmas day to unwrap the presents? LOL!

Only an hour and a quarter to go! Hang in there!

 

[Fun For All]

Trump lawyers will be giving a press conference at 12 pm today to outline the litigation path for Trump to win the election.

Hahaha...

 

[Dutch Oven]

Didn't you mean STEAL THE ELECTION??

Trump Wants to Steal the Election by Disenfranchising Thousands of Black Voters

The Republican strategy has been on display in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania—all states that Trump won in 2016 but which Biden carried in 2020.

www.vanityfair.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/18/first-big-test-trumps-attempt-steal-electoral-college-was-failure/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/18/how-trump-tried-steal-michigan/

Think Trump's plans to steal the election have failed? Look closer

Surely Republicans would never stage a ludicrous constitutional end-around with Brett Kavanaugh's help, would they?

www.salon.com

I'm amused by the theory that somehow it's mostly black voters who voted by mail. One, is there any evidence at all that, regardless of political party, that black people are MORE concerned about contracting Covid through in-person voting than anyone else? I'm not aware of any. Two, if the argument isn't based on that presumption, is it founded on the idea that black people would be more likely to vote by mail in order to avoid the more definitive voter id requirements of in person voting (in some states)? Despite couching the argument as protecting black votes, there seems to be underlying assumptions being made that are disparaging of black voters. Same old Democrat Party!

 

[Leimonis]

I worry that Putin will bust something in his belly from all the laughing he's been doing since 2016

 

[Fun For All]

Haha...Trump campaign is asking the court to declare him the winner...like, that's got a chance.

Trump campaign changes tack, then switches back in Pennsylvania election lawsuit

In the court filing, the campaign said the narrowing of the case had been 'inadvertent' and due to miscommunication. The campaign said on Monday it had "strategically decided to restructure its lawsuit" when it removed the claims.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[squeezer]

I'm amused by the theory that somehow it's mostly black voters who voted by mail. One, is there any evidence at all that, regardless of political party, that black people are MORE concerned about contracting Covid through in-person voting than anyone else? I'm not aware of any. Two, if the argument isn't based on that presumption, is it founded on the idea that black people would be more likely to vote by mail in order to avoid the more definitive voter id requirements of in person voting (in some states)? Despite couching the argument as protecting black votes, there seems to be underlying assumptions being made that are disparaging of black voters. Same old Democrat Party!

SHAME ON YOU

 

[Dutch Oven]

Now at least one Wayne County (Detroit) Canvasser (the Chair) is seeking to rescind her vote to certify the results in that county based on threats made to her and misrepresentations by County Counsel promising an audit.

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/img-201118215108 (1).pdf

 

[Fun For All]

Now at least one Wayne County (Detroit) Canvasser (the Chair) is seeking to rescind her vote to certify the results in that county based on threats made to her and misrepresentations by County Counsel promising an audit.

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/img-201118215108 (1).pdf

Haha...Trump called her, then she changed her mind...no, nothing fishy about that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/19/wayne-county-rescind-certifying-election/

 

[Fun For All]

Now at least one Wayne County (Detroit) Canvasser (the Chair) is seeking to rescind her vote to certify the results in that county based on threats made to her and misrepresentations by County Counsel promising an audit.

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/img-201118215108 (1).pdf

I liked the other Monica better...

Monica Lewinsky - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bver_hunter]

Haha...Trump campaign is asking the court to declare him the winner...like, that's got a chance.

Trump campaign changes tack, then switches back in Pennsylvania election lawsuit

In the court filing, the campaign said the narrowing of the case had been 'inadvertent' and due to miscommunication. The campaign said on Monday it had "strategically decided to restructure its lawsuit" when it removed the claims.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3471956972883852

 

[Valcazar]

I'm amused by the theory that somehow it's mostly black voters who voted by mail.

There is no such theory. The theory is that the Republicans are targeting the black vote by picking counties with large black populations to try and get thrown out.

 

[Valcazar]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3471956972883852

Trump campaign is asking the court to hand over the ballots, let the Trump campaign count them, and then if the Trump campaign says they are actually the winners (based on Trump Math), the court should agree.