BTW, please don't delete this thread if people disagree with you.As the Stanley Cup Final draws to a close, it's time to look forward to the 2020-21 NHL season, whenever it may start!
In the Before Times, you'd be correct.It's almost October, which means that training camps are ending.
Nothing set in stone, I had read mid December as well.I don't think that any opening date has been set and I'm pretty sure that there'd need to be discussions with the NHLPA, but I'm guessing that the new season will begin around Dec. 10.
Just wondering why throw stones for no reason?I'm so glad someone with real hockey knowledge started the 2020/2021 Leafs thread.
Honestly kinda sounds like “old news” to me - I was not watching that thread then so don’t know who hurt who’s feelings etc.but there is a reason. Someone with hockey knowledge would not create a Leaf season thread and then delete it mid season.
Agreed. I do think that Shanahan has had full autonomy in the hockey operation. Many had said this ownership would never allow tanking but Shanny did just that to get Matthews.Honestly kinda sounds like “old news” to me - I was not watching that thread then so don’t know who hurt who’s feelings etc.
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However the path to “Leafs Enlightenment” is to look forward and hope the MLS brass just writes chqs and keeps their nose out of hockey operations - let “Hockey Minds” run the Franchise. If they would ever do that for a solid five years with the right staff - we are a contender.
However, they did a lot more than just try to improve via the draft. Coaching, scouting, GMs, trades and free agents were all methods used to upgrade the team. Getting a top pick was part of a much larger plan. (Not that it has worked out optimally, to say the least.) And the tanking was only after the team had quit on Carlyle, he was fired (January? Feb?) and there was no hope to salvage that season.Agreed. I do think that Shanahan has had full autonomy in the hockey operation. Many had said this ownership would never allow tanking but Shanny did just that to get Matthews.
That’s true too and they did a great job in tanking without looking like it. The hint was when Babcock first came he warned “there’ll be pain ahead” and promptly they went on to finish last.However, they did a lot more than just try to improve via the draft. Coaching, scouting, GMs, trades and free agents were all methods used to upgrade the team. Getting a top pick was part of a much larger plan. (Not that it has worked out optimally, to say the least.) And the tanking was only after the team had quit on Carlyle, he was fired (January? Feb?) and there was no hope to salvage that season.
Ironically, I really enjoyed watching them play.That’s true too and they did a great job in tanking without looking like it. The hint was when Babcock first came he warned “there’ll be pain ahead” and promptly they went on to finish last.
I like Spezza, he doesn’t mind a physical game, and he did not demand 2 mill. Having said that, if you’re into golf season and fat contracts, Toronto is the place to playSpezza re-signed for $700K.
How close do you think +/- is to WAR in Baseball? And would it be a significant part of a WAR measurement for Hockey?I've brought up the fact that +/- is an archaic, insignificant, almost useless statistic, on occasion.
Today's evidence:
Player A
26 Years old
1st Round pick
427 NHL Gm 29G 95A 118 p.i.m.
+61
Player B
26 years old
1st Round pick
517 NHL Gm 54G 216A 127 p.i.m.
-40
Which player do you want on your team?
Are you hard of "reading" or do you just assume everyone is always saying something negative as that is your default style? I don't think oral.com (great handle by the way) is saying Spezza's contract is fat - just that Toronto in the view of some has over paid certain players and they typically have an early start to their golf seasons.Did you forget there's a salary cap? Spezza is practically getting min salary. How is that a fat contract?
+/- to W.A.R. ?How close do you think +/- is to WAR in Baseball? And would it be a significant part of a WAR measurement for Hockey?