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squeezer

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Its a trade-off, isnt it??

But are you saying young peoples lives dont count for anything?? Do they deserve to have their lives destroyed just so we can save a few grannies?? (who were probably a couple of months away from kicking the bucket anyways).

I got news for you, live comes with risks and we're all gonna die someday regardless
So then, live a little. Go to the huge lines at the COVID clinics today unmasked and start shaking hands and giving great big comforting hugs. Show the young your support and show us how COVID isn't the big bad wolf the radical left is painting it as. Perhaps Canadaman can join you , heck make it a threesome and bring Teejay with you.
 

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TeeJay

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You should link a story in Canada. All counties have had different COVID reactions and actions.

So if you want to make your point properly, pull up cases here in Canada first so it can be discussed properly based on our measures and numbers.
Ok
And?


Those who were already struggling with their mental health are:

twice as likely to say their mental health has declined (59% vs 33%)
5 times as likely to feel depressed (46% vs 17%)
three times as likely to have trouble coping (28% vs 11%)
four times as likely to have had suicidal thoughts (18% vs. 4%)
four times as likely to have tried to harm themselves (4% vs. 1%)

Among this group, very few are accessing in-person (2%) or virtual mental health care (14%) or using online resources (5%).

“People with pre-existing mental health conditions are some of the hardest hit,” says Margaret Eaton, national CEO, CMHA. “The pandemic is exposing how broken our mental health system already was in Canada. We must invest in community mental health programs and services, improve our nationwide suicide prevention plan and seize this opportunity to fix our system for the longer term.”

The mental health policy response thus far has been directed to the general population and has not prioritized those who already had a mental illness or mental health issues or addressed those whose mental healthcare has been interrupted.
 

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The obvious point is the number of people harming themselves due to mental health issues vastly outnumber the number of people dying of Covid or Covid related issues
(And for that matter far more Covid "related" issues are dying than actual Covid cases)

The lockdown is insanity, the masks are doing nothing (see current outbreak) and CERB was essentially unfettered free money to the marginally employed
 

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Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.

Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.

"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."

https://www.google.com/search?q=lead...hrome&ie=UTF-8

"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4

"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/...nd%20cyclists.


 
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The months long government paid holiday from that 4 letter word "work" that everyone hates was great for people's mental health & quality of life.

Flu deaths, serious illnesses & long term negative health consequences as a result of the flu were also down as a result of lockdowns.

The lockdowns saved millions more from dying from C-19 relative to just treating it as the flu.
 
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"We are far from any sort of triumph over this brutal disease. I have seen first-hand what it can do to people in intensive care, many of them previously fit and healthy."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53951764


Even in healthy people who don't die from C-19 "COVID-19 symptoms can sometimes persist for months. The virus can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems."

Wear a mask to protect those most vulnerable from dying as a result of - your - C-19 infection. IOW wear a mask so - you - don't murder others.
 
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What is obviously clear is:

1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637

These safety measures practiced this year re C-19 may lead to benefits for many years to come re the flu & other illnesses, both the known & unknown. That is, if people keep practicing them.
 
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"The annual flu shot will be more important than ever during the coronavirus pandemic, according to one infectious disease expert, who says it would be a “double whammy” to be infected with both viruses."

"...I would hope that as many people as possible recognize that the flu shot is fairly effective, it helps protect yourself and everyone around you. So please get the flu shot,” he said Thursday on CTV’s Your Morning.

“This is the one year you don’t want to miss it.”

As health officials prepare for a possible “second wave” or resurgence of COVID-19 infection in Canada in the fall, some have expressed concern that the flu season might overwhelm hospitals...

...Australia, which is nearing the end of its winter, may serve as an example: the country experienced a major drop in influenza infections and deaths compared to the previous season. Experts credit COVID-19 restrictions and lockdown measures.

...But the upcoming flu season could still prove challenging for hospitals since it can be difficult to differentiate between influenza and COVID-19 infection. In late February and early March this year, there were “undoubtedly” coronavirus infections mistaken for influenza,

...a pair of U.S. studies found that 2.1 per cent of patients in New York City and 20.7 per cent of patients in Northern California had a second respiratory infection in addition to COVID-19.“Certainly that would be a double whammy we want to prevent,” said Sharkawy.
“It speaks to the importance of doing things like hand-washing, distancing and masking in indoor settings. All of these things work and they should help prevent both of these illnesses.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...uring-covid-19-pandemic-expert-says-1.5062695
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You should link a story in Canada. All counties have had different COVID reactions and actions.

So if you want to make your point properly, pull up cases here in Canada first so it can be discussed properly based on our measures and numbers
The 2020 total numbers wont be available till 2021. I'll post them if I can find them in Can stats website
 

Phil C. McNasty

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What is obviously clear is:

1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637

These safety measures practiced this year re C-19 may lead to benefits for many years to come re the flu & other illnesses, both the known & unknown. That is, if people keep practicing them.
The old people that would have died of the flu have most likely now died of Corona. Its a terrible argument you're making here
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So then, live a little. Go to the huge lines at the COVID clinics today unmasked and start shaking hands and giving great big comforting hugs. Show the young your support and show us how COVID isn't the big bad wolf the radical left is painting it as. Perhaps Canadaman can join you , heck make it a threesome and bring Teejay with you
If it was legal I would do it. And I would do it only to the people who wouldnt mind getting a hug.
You know, people who arent terrified snowflakes like you
 

squeezer

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If it was legal I would do it. And I would do it only to the people who wouldnt mind getting a hug.
You know, people who arent terrified snowflakes like you
Wait a minute! Hold on just a moment!!! Didn't you claim once upon a time you always wore your mask? Now you are willing to go unmasked in a COVID laced line hugging and handshaking folks. I don't believe you!!! I think when you get a scratchy throat, a slight cough you panic like a little girl!!!
 

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Wait a minute! Hold on just a moment!!! Didn't you claim once upon a time you always wore your mask? Now you are willing to go unmasked in a COVID laced line hugging and handshaking folks
I already told you, I only wear a mask because its now the law, plus I wont get served in some stores if I dont wear one.

Try to keep up
 

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"The annual flu shot will be more important than ever during the coronavirus pandemic, according to one infectious disease expert, who says it would be a “double whammy” to be infected with both viruses."
Just as an FYI
You do realize fully 1 in 3 adult Canadians do not get flu shots?

I expect this number to be higher since many are suspicious of side effects from a rushed covid vaccine (plus those in fear if they go to get shot could be exposed will further decrease numbers)
 

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I already told you, I only wear a mask because its now the law, plus I wont get served in some stores if I dont wear one.

Try to keep up
Medical exemption


But either way I see people every day without masks inside literally every store I go to
Compliance (fear) rates are nowhere near what media portrays them as
 
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