I returned on March 18th and self isolated for 14 days. Leaders knew how serious the COVID 19 is but they all downplayed. I recall on March 15th, Boris Johnson who downplayed COVID big time finally admitted that there will be 40K death. All leaders failed their people.
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I returned on March 18th and self isolated for 14 days. Leaders knew how serious the COVID 19 is but they all downplayed. I recall on March 15th, Boris Johnson who downplayed COVID big time finally admitted that there will be 40K death. All leaders failed their people.
"CNN’s Kaitlin Collins obsesses over masks when the cameras are on, but when she thinks they’re off, off comes her mask!"
You are sticking to conspiracy theories far from critical thinking. A little bit of critical thinking on your part might instill some common sense.
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You do know they are all tested before the president and the president's close people walk in right? Yeah, they wear the mask to set a good example and to taunt the republicans.
Trump is in a bubble and kept safe. Why though, why when this is all a hoax?
I do agree more should have been done. Trump knew in January it was airborne and killing 5X more than the flu and played it down. No leader wanted to shut down their countries. That is the point. It is a serious pandemic yet some folks insist on pretending its just a flu. I'm not for shutting down but at least wear the mask when inside public places, social distance and wash your hands. It's a lot better than having to go through a lock down.
Stay tuned and don't be surprised when you hear about new restrictions coming!!!
Ontario slashes gathering sizes for entire province as alarm bells ring over COVID-19 spike
Ontario Premier Doug Ford has expanded new social gathering restrictions across the entire province, saying that "alarm bells are ringing" as COVID-19 cases continue to surge.toronto.ctvnews.ca
I caught parts of the announcement this morning. All regions in Ontario now have the 10 indoor/25 outdoor (with physical distancing) rules for informal social gatherings. Businesses are still under their previous rules of Stage 3.
Not surprised...the leaders in the regions other than Toronto, Peel and Ottawa figured out pretty quick that the 50 indoor/100 outdoor parties would just increase in their areas and anyone in the 3 regions under the lower restrictions from this week would just drive there to join in.
On Facebook yesterday I saw a Toronto based birthday bash for this weekend coming - under the 100 person outdoor limit but was going to be close to it - get moved to a family members place in a region still at the 100 person limit (just down the 401 to the west) and just now is back to the original location, only 20 closest family members coming in person and setting up a web camera for zoom invites to those no longer coming in person.
I hope they are correct and the spikes are due to large private parties. I know a few of the restaurants I've been too have been great enforcing the rules except for when folks are seated at their tables. I was at King Taps a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed the doorman chase down a diner coming in not wearing a mask. When the clown saw the size of the bouncer he quickly grabbed a mask out of his pocket and put it on.
I lost a high school friend. Early 50's.
And as for the younger ones no dying, there is mounting evidence of long term heath problems including reduced lung, heart, and kidney function. Neurological disorders due to mini strokes. And ither ones cropping up.
And these have been noted in college age athletes. There may be a covid generation similar to the polio generation that has lasting problems.
And its genetic so no telling who will be affected
I completely agree. All nonessential air travel outside of Canada should not be allowed. I have a close friend who went to visit family in Ohio and also came back with COVID.
What solution do you have? Should we station police on the bus to limit ridership? Tell people they shouldn't go to work?
Yes, it is stupid but the only other possibility that doesn't cripple the economy is for the TTC to massive increase the number of busses on those routes and have addition staff on each bus to control numbers. If we did that, there would still be the question about funding it.
People.
Are you prepared to be consigned to the soylent factory when you turn 65?
Okay, disagree with all economic theories. The question isn't if it will recover, it is how long will it take to recover. Economies have continual growth trends, especially in countries that follow capitalist ideas.
You have difficulty understanding what those doctors say. Other than that demon sperm doctor, you won't find many doctors who say covid isn't harmful to people. That is the science. The rest of it is interpretation of what level of risk is acceptable. Interpretation of that risk takes in to account many factors and many educated people can still disagree as to how important reach of the other factors are. From a scientific basis, there is no (ethical) way to actually test different levels of precautions and determine the minimum restrictions that stop the spread so it is dumb to pretend that different doctors and scientists opinions on restrictions are actual fact.
Of course the government actions are political. They were elected to represent all Canadians and they are trying to find a balance between the various needs of the country. They may be far better than the Orange Man but it is quite obvious that many of their decisions are based on spending and economic factors and not just science. If it was purely science then the limit on gatherings would apply to businesses and schools as well.
I do give them credit for listening to their scientific advisors, especially as this is a new thing and there isn't a large background of previous science to base those decisions on.
Way too late to worry about flights and international travel when it is spreading so widely already. BTW. NZ borders aren't locked down and their monitoring of incoming passengers is significant because they don't have the homegrown cases to worry about.
I disagree on political here in Canada at least in comparison to the US. A place where even a bloody mask indicates if you're left or right. Here in good old Canada 90% of Federally, Provincially and Municipal, are all on the same page regardless of political stripe when it applies to the pandemic. Sure the ones not in power throw digs from the opposing bench but overall, the ones in control read from the same playlist. Doug has to weigh the impact of another shutdown on business and Justin lets the provinces call the shots on how they proceed. It would most likely be the last nail on the coffin of many businesses, especially restaurants if told to completely lockdown.
The insurance companies are killing the bar and restaurant businesses with escalating policies due to COVID. It was nice to see Doug come out and blast the insurance industry although I doubt they will listen.
Rofl! How about 3 extra buses on the arterial routes during the rush hours?is this dangerous or not?
In comparison yes but it's quite obvious that budgets and economics have played a role in our implementation.
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