Buffalo Police Shove An Elderly Man To Ground Unconscious And Bleeding

[The Oracle]

lol you shouldn't give in to the radical TERB mob rule. They prey on any sign of weakness. Your first statement in the thread was the right one.

I consider you part of the Silent Majority now. Publicly go along with the vocal minority, but vote with what you actually believe is true.

That's why OrangeMan is in office.

Going to disagree. The first time I saw it all I saw was a guy approaching an advancing column tasked with clearing an area. It looked to me that he was trying berate them. Or confront them. But the more I watched it I realised that even if this is true the better solution was to just take him to the side. Which given his age and frailty would have been quite easy.

Still believe that when told to disperse after an imposed curfew that its best to follow suit though. Anything outside of that is just escalating an already percolating situation.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

The point being that YOU DON'T EVER GIVE FRAIL OLD PEOPLE A "GENTLE PUSH BACKWARDS"!!!!!

WHY??!!??!!.... BECAUSE THEY'RE FRAIL OLD PEOPLE!

The next logical question would be .... if you are an old frail person, why are you putting yourself in a situation where the risk of injury and things getting out of hand are present? Especially knowingly staying out past curfew when things get even more dicey?

While I think the cop was bit aggressive they are in a tough spot. People of any age or race approaching the police when they are being instructed to leave are making bad choices and setting themselves up to be at risk. People need to take responsibility for their actions that put themselves at risk as well. Still, ya gotta feel bad for what happened but I don't think it was an intentional thing. Bad things happen when you put yourself in bad situations.

 

[mandrill]

The actual statement Carson made was ''. Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked. ''......

That's no more intelligent, is it?

 

[mandrill]

Going to disagree. The first time I saw it all I saw was a guy approaching an advancing column tasked with clearing an area. It looked to me that he was trying berate them. Or confront them. But the more I watched it I realised that even if this is true the better solution was to just take him to the side. Which given his age and frailty would have been quite easy.

Still believe that when told to disperse after an imposed curfew that its best to follow suit though. Anything outside of that is just escalating an already percolating situation.

Finally got there, huh?

You have to repeat a couple of grades in high school as well?

 

[explorerzip]

The next logical question would be .... if you are an old frail person, why are you putting yourself in a situation where the risk of injury and things getting out of hand are present? Especially knowingly staying out past curfew when things get even more dicey?

While I think the cop was bit aggressive they are in a tough spot. People of any age or race approaching the police when they are being instructed to leave are making bad choices and setting themselves up to be at risk. People need to take responsibility for their actions that put themselves at risk as well. Still, ya gotta feel bad for what happened but I don't think it was an intentional thing. Bad things happen when you put yourself in bad situations.

People do need to take responsibility for their actions and funny enough cops are people too. The cop that did the pushing did not take any responsibility for his actions by calling for assistance or giving first aid nor did most of the other cops even though they are all trained to do so.

 

[explorerzip]

Even though "police medics" are embedded with the emergency response unit and we can clearly see that the cop in charge who also pushed one of the pushers away from attempting to attend to the poor old man, was most likely informing the "police medics" of the situation, that ERT member who was pushed away from attending the old person should have been allowed to stay with and attend to the old person till the "police medic" arrived.

I don't know if there's such a thing as a police medic. I would hope that all officers have basic first aid training and have to get re-certified every few years. Besides, you don't need special training to know that you need to assist someone ASAP that falls on their head let alone bleeding from the ears.

 

[Fradi]

The next logical question would be .... if you are an old frail person, why are you putting yourself in a situation where the risk of injury and things getting out of hand are present? Especially knowingly staying out past curfew when things get even more dicey?
.

That is the easiest question to answer.
He obviously doesn’t think he is old and frail.
Why do people that may crack mirrors think they are gorgeous, why do anorexic people think they are fat.
Why do hobbyist on review boards think they give every SP minimum 3 orgasms every session.

 

[xmontrealer]

So all 57 members of the Buffalo Police Emergency Response Team have resigned as per the following quoted news report:

"Following their fellow officers' suspension, the rest of the Emergency Response Team members stepped down from the tactical unit but have not quit the police department, The Buffalo News reported.

WKBW reporter Hannah Buehler broke the news of the resignations on Twitter Friday afternoon, writing that the officers stepped down as a show of support for those who were suspended. “The Union tells me it fully understands their ‘disgust,’” she wrote. “‘These officers were simply following orders given by DPC Joe Gramaglia to clear the Square.’ ”

However, two officers who were formerly part of the Emergency Response Team later told WKBW that their resignation was not a show of support.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, one of the officers told the outlet they quit because the union said they would not legally back them anymore. “I think it sends the wrong message that ‘we’re backing our own’ and that’s not the case,” an officer said, according to WKBW.

Though the resignations have raised questions about how police will be able to respond to emergencies without the response team, Brown said the city has “a contingency plan.”

"I can say that Buffalo will be safe this weekend," the mayor said at a news conference on Friday evening."

I guess we'll see what the public's response to that action is...

 

[danmand]

Hang on....

It's very easy to find out what 'indicators' are correlated to crime (especially violent). I'll give a hint; Scandinavia.

Finally, a kindred spirit.

 

[apoptygma]

Going to disagree. The first time I saw it all I saw was a guy approaching an advancing column tasked with clearing an area. It looked to me that he was trying berate them. Or confront them. But the more I watched it I realised that even if this is true the better solution was to just take him to the side. Which given his age and frailty would have been quite easy.

Still believe that when told to disperse after an imposed curfew that its best to follow suit though. Anything outside of that is just escalating an already percolating situation.

You are and always have been full of shit.
Prove this happened outside of curfew.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

You are and always have been full of shit.
Prove this happened outside of curfew.

Read any account of the incident, the tactical unit was asked to clear the area as it was past curfew.

 

[explorerzip]

Read any account of the incident, the tactical unit was asked to clear the area as it was past curfew.

Would the actions taken by the police be acceptable if they happened before curfew then?

 

[nottyboi]

That is the easiest question to answer.
He obviously doesn’t think he is old and frail.
Why do people that may crack mirrors think they are gorgeous, why do anorexic people think they are fat.
Why do hobbyist on review boards think they give every SP minimum 3 orgasms every session.

He did not think so lowly of cops that they would actully attack and injure an old man that was of no threat to them whatsoever. That was a mistake, but it was assult and 100% unnecessary. They just could have left a couple of cops to deal with him and the line could have walked on.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Sickening....Buffalo cops cheering the two scumbags leaving the courthouse after being arraigned for assaulting a 75 year old man

https://twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1269308555729002497

Insane

 

[Smallcock]

Pretty clear that grandpa was so frail that he was physically unable to give anyone "trouble", even if he wished.

Someone else said he was just trying to hand a helmet back to the police.

In any event, if your culture says it's okay to make war on the old, weak and helpless, that's something the vast majority of people are going to reject and despise.

Unfortunately the poor old man has as much sense as Joe Biden. Who walks directly into the path of a wall of police that are moving in the opposite direction? Just asking for trouble even in the form of a mistake, which is what this was.

 

[The Oracle]

You are and always have been full of shit.
Prove this happened outside of curfew.

Read any account of the incident, the tactical unit was asked to clear the area as it was past curfew.

He's to busy frothing at the mouth virtue signalling to acknowledge the facts. Typical leftist.

 

[Anbarandy]

I don't know if there's such a thing as a police medic. I would hope that all officers have basic first aid training and have to get re-certified every few years. Besides, you don't need special training to know that you need to assist someone ASAP that falls on their head let alone bleeding from the ears.

That is what was stated by the Buffalo Police whether valid or not.

And yes any reasonable humane person, even a cop, would and should have attended to the old person on the sidewalk. One of the charged cops attempted to but was pulled away by what seems like another cop in command and told to proceed forward.

All in all, cop or not, any reasonable person would and should be able to perceive and comprehend that any force other than gently guiding an obviously old and frail person away is an unreasonable use of force and may in fact rise to the level of 2nd degree assault in the 2nd cops case whose more forceful shoving of the old man was far in excess of reasonable and given the circumstance may be considered assault with intent to harm.

 

[The Oracle]

Finally got there, huh?

You have to repeat a couple of grades in high school as well?

Negative.

 

[Smallcock]

https://twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1269308555729002497

Insane

Good for them. A light touch is enough to make an old man fumble and fall. No malicious intent, no harm intended. People can overdramatize this all they want but it's not going to change proper policing.

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

The actual statement Carson made was ''. Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked. ''......

Before or after he shined #BunkerBitch's shoes?