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Buffalo Police Shove An Elderly Man To Ground Unconscious And Bleeding

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Good for them. A light touch is enough to make an old man fumble and fall. No malicious intent, no harm intended. People can overdramatize this all they want but it's not going to change proper policing.
These are police officers protecting police officers. Morality has been thrown out the window a long time ago.
 

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kherg007

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A wee bit paranoid don't ya think? I've now seen stuff suggesting he had a tube under his mask to release the blood...thus the old man was setting up the cops that way (rather than the secret antifa cop tracking scanner that this article alleges) which was why it came out of his ear rather than the back of his head. A bit much. But, lets wait on all the evidence. They certainly shoved him. The video from across the street definitely showed his head bouncing off the concrete.
 

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Sounds just like all the regular news sites, just they are Liberal.
Fox News always says "We heard from someone or somewhere that, so and so...." line without stating any source. MSM "New Harvard Study shows....today we have Doctor..... from NIH". Spot the difference if you can you're brain-washed by a gossip show that poses as news.

I fact check everything. I can put aside left vs right and I look for up vs down, up meaning integrity and down meaning chaos. I use to vote conservative but they seem to have moved too far right. The Fed PCs are really the reform party from out west so I'm not interested in them. I'll take Doug Ford over any of those western clowns. The good Republicans are all but gone, they have been infiltrated by the tea party. Though I like the Lincoln project which is made up of some good republicans.
 

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These leftist, antifa, radical anarchists want to turn our countries into lawless third world shitholes. We don't let it happen.
Like where cops kill subdued civilians and the government sics the military on it's citizens?
 

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Like where cops kill subdued civilians and the government sics the military on it's citizens?
You have a strange radical CNN approved way of looking at the world.

A 1 in a million odds of a cop wrongfully killing a life-long thug high on drugs, and police maintaining order by protecting people and property from vandalism.

This is somehow lawless and third world to you?

As trendy and ignorant as it is for you radicals to ignore facts and stats, you're never going to win over the hearts and minds of real Americans, who are the majority (and you might be among them when you grow up, work hard/smart, and hold assets of your own that require protection). No amount of lazy lying mainstream liberal coverage is going to convince real Americans to give up their society to the dredges.
 
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apoptygma

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You have a strange radical CNN approved way of looking at the world.

A 1 in a million odds of a cop wrongfully killing a life-long thug high on drugs, and police maintaining order by protecting people and property for vandalism.

This is somehow lawless and third world to you?

As trendy and ignorant as it is for you radicals to ignore facts and stats, you're never going to win over the hearts and minds of real Americans, who are the majority (and you might be among them when you grow up, work hard/smart, and hold assets of your own that require protection). No amount of lazy lying mainstream liberal coverage is going to convince real Americans to give up their society to the dredges.
A group of cops, willfully killing a man that has been subdued, handcuffed, and placed face down on the ground is 'lawful' to you?
Illegally siccing the military on civilians sounds 'lawful' to you?
I figured you would think that.
 

Smallcock

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A group of cops, willfully killing a man that has been subdued, handcuffed, and placed face down on the ground is 'lawful' to you?
Illegally siccing the military on civilians sounds 'lawful' to you?
I figured you would think that.
You didn't read a word of what I wrote, did you.
 

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Fox News always says "We heard from someone or somewhere that, so and so...." line without stating any source. MSM "New Harvard Study shows....today we have Doctor..... from NIH". Spot the difference if you can you're brain-washed by a gossip show that poses as news.
We've had this discussion many times before. ALLl the cable news networks do it. My opinion is Fox News does a better job of limiting such hyperbola to their prime time opinion commentators.

Friday, CNN and MSNBC news anchors were repeating the fiction that President Trump said George Floyd would be happy about the jobs report. These are the news anchors. Apparently, someone started this with a tweet and everyone decided to repeat it.
 

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These leftist, antifa, radical anarchists want to turn our countries into lawless third world shitholes. We don't let it happen.

I don't see you on the front lines anywhere, Smally.

You're having a nice cup of coffee while you post endless "heroic and determined" comments on TERB. As I recall, your own heroic determination to become a cop ended when you discovered you would have to live in SK and you couldn't party as much.
 

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I don't see you on the front lines anywhere, Smally.

You're having a nice cup of coffee while you post endless "heroic and determined" comments on TERB. As I recall, your own heroic determination to become a cop ended when you discovered you would have to live in SK and you couldn't party as much.
Living in another province is a requirement for becoming an RCMP officer only. My becoming a cop continues after covid is over. I really wish I was on the front lines right now.

It's fine to condemn bad cops, but in many of these protests, people are condemning all cops, which is lunacy.
 
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That is what was stated by the Buffalo Police whether valid or not.

And yes any reasonable humane person, even a cop, would and should have attended to the old person on the sidewalk. One of the charged cops attempted to but was pulled away by what seems like another cop in command and told to proceed forward.

All in all, cop or not, any reasonable person would and should be able to perceive and comprehend that any force other than gently guiding an obviously old and frail person away is an unreasonable use of force and may in fact rise to the level of 2nd degree assault in the 2nd cops case whose more forceful shoving of the old man was far in excess of reasonable and given the circumstance may be considered assault with intent to harm.
A little reading on the matter would tell you that when the gentleman fell, the tactical officer who immediately seemed to offer aid was pulled away. The reason was that immediately behind the first wave of tactical officers is a medical team. You can clearly see one of the tactical officers immediately get on his microphone to alert the medical team of the need for assistance. The tactical team has a more focused duty to clear the area. The medical team, which is part of the unit, tends to medical issues like these. The officer who attempted to help lost focus and forgot right behind him were highly trained medics more suited to attend to the gentleman.
 
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Would the actions taken by the police be acceptable if they happened before curfew then?
No simple answer. If the old man was thrusting his smartphone towards them as he did it could be construed as an attack on the officers. Perhaps the tactical unit would not be there before curfew so the question is kind of pointless.
 

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A little reading on the matter would tell you that when the gentleman fell, the tactical officer who immediately seemed to offer ad was pulled away. The reason was that immediately behind the first wave of tactical officers is a medical team. You can clearly see one of the tactical officers immediately get on his microphone to alert the medical team of the need for assistance. The tactical team has a more focused duty to clear the area. The medical team, which is part of the unit, tends to medical issues like these. The officer who attempted to help lost focus and forgot right behind him were highly trained medics more suited to attend to the gentleman.
Finally saw the video. Definite push, definite head injury. The 2 cops involved did seem to be affected by their actions...one bent down to attend but got pulled away, the other nearest the camera turns around away from the line and looks like "oh shit"...didn't look happy. And yes, you see supervisor call for medical behind the line and a bloke in fatigues gets there to attend to the victim in under 20 seconds.

Anyhow, those seem to be the facts. Whether that push was warranted is the issue.
 

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A little common sense. A large tactical unit is essentially marching in your direction.

Do you think that they want you to:

a) stand in front of them without moving to have a nice long chat about the daily events with them
b) move out of the way - clear the area
c) approach them head-on which can easily be misinterpreted as a provocation, threat, or refusal to disperse

If you chose A or B, you might get a small push, like the old man did, because you're inept.

If the old man was trying to hand something to them, he could have left it on the ground far in advance of them and they would pick it up as they advanced.

This won't make any sense to those that see the police as evil incarnate, but they are the loud minority anyway. They get far too much air time because media outlets like CNN make money off drama. There are bad people, including bad cops, out there. But don't lose the plot.
 
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