RANT: BBFS inquiries - who are these losers??
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Once. That was messy but fun with the SO.
Many, if not most women are horniest during their periods, I was told.
I assume he was quoting me???? Since I was the only one taking rape.... I have him on ignore.
Like I said I was speaking in "legal" terms. Idiots, just can't stand them.
Anyway, thank you. At least some people get it. How anyone can play word games and condone sexual assault (better?) is beyond me. You have to have something seriously wrong with you to be that type of person.
Lol. You realize that is next week. But I could see it happening that fast with how rampant it is. LOL.
Noted. Will get on it.
If anything, getting knocked up is even a bigger reason to not BBFS.. do these clients ask whether the sp is on a 99.9% reliable birth control? Or is it okay to just have the potential to impregnating and having someone go through the process of worrying about being pregnant or going through with an abortion? Im also just as alarmed when hearing about civi friends who aren't ready to have kids but are bbfs-ing and finishing inside. WTF are they thinking. When I ask them about it, they just say.. 'oh.. if it comes it comes...' meanwhile they are trying to advance their careers still. WHY?? Literally scariest thought in the world is me having someone's kids by accident, or just having any kids at all. *shudders*
You're right. Click bait. But also generating awareness. Much needed imo.
Yeah, definitely a lot of the third category. You're absolutely right - they are just being honest for category 1. Still alarmed though. It can be difficult to not take things personally when working as an sp and dealing with personal preferences - sometimes I literally have to stop and be like 'If I were selling a non sexual luxury service to this client, is it fair for me to refuse service or react this way because of whatever behaviour'.
Carry on.
Morning after pill, clean, clean, clean like guys would and get tested. There is not much that can be done with a broken condom expect sit and wait for test results.
Sex doesn't scare me. BBFS with a sex worker whose willing to offer it does. If it becomes the norm then its even worst. People can do whatever they want at the end of the day but don’t think with your dicks, educate your self on the risks of BBFS with unknown providers and if it’s something you wanna do go ahead.
There is still risk for the insertive partner in vaginal sex.
I already cited the CDC in my original post. But if you look at the guidelines locally the expert opinion is YES to initiating PEP in insertive or receptive vaginal intercourse with HIV unknown patient that is "high risk". Check page 7 I think step 4C from the St Michaels hospital Infection Disease Treatment guidelines on HIV exposure. https://www.stmichaelshospital.com/pdf/programs/pocket-pep.pdf. The only controversy is who is a "high risk" host, many experts would classify a sex worker who provides BBFS as high risk.
So while the risk is low to you its high enough that the canadian government is willing to spend 1-2 grand on post exposure prophylaxis, so they justify the costs.... They spend ALOT of money and pool alot of resources and expert opinions to make these guidlines. If their math justifies spending 2 grand because of the perceived risk then I would re consider what you define as negligible risk. But again its a personal decision the risk is low true, I would take PEP if I suspect the provider is the type that does BBFS or takes drugs but I try not see providers like that in the first place.
Honestly no one here can say things for sure. My suggestion is if you are a provider or client and in a situation where the condom breaks and your concerned just go to St Michael or TGH post exposure clinics but within 72 hours. There they can talk to you about everything and the decision may be not to do anything but better safe than sorry.
You just wrote that if a condom broke, you’d run to the emergency room and swallow a ton of pills.
I’ve had condoms break.
If it’s ever happened to you, from a male perspective, you should notice very quickly. There’s a bit of pressure release, and then things start feeling a whole lot better. If this happens, pull out and check. Easy.
If broken, wash up and re-wrap and get back to business.
I’ve gotten into the habit of performing periodic condom checks. I think it’s a good habit.
Well as I mentioned only if I consider the provider high risk and any provider that provides BBFS on a regular basis to random guys is considered high risk to me. If taking two pills whose only major side effect is some potential nausea prevents me from getting HIV even if the risk is small why is that a problem? anyways this is a hypothetical situation, most providers dont regularly provide BBFS and condoms rarely break and I doubt this situation will ever happen... but again you do you man everyone has different risk tolerances. Heck some people im sure would do BB anal and not think twice about it.
I dont have sex with a provider I consider high risk. I have seen many many girls whome I consider safe and even safer than alot of civies and these girls would NEVER provide BBFS to a random client. Any provider that provides BBFS in my opinion is high risk and that is more prevelant than I thought (the discussion of this thread) hence I was saying if I dont know the provider well and there is an accident I would use PEP. But that latter is unlikely for me I stick to girls and agencies I know and trust. My comment was more to help others, if you know a girl provides BBFS A) Consider the risk of actually doing BBFS, risk of infections are high and risk of HIV is not neglible as people here are incorrectly saying and B) if you use a condorm and there is a break in the condomn the current evidence supports taking PEP in those cases and cases people are stupid enough to do BBFS and regret it later. Or you can just keep doing BBFS with providers whose risk tolerance is high enough to regularly provide it and hope for the best. For me as soon as a girl offers BBFS thats the end of it, im either out of there or they are. If they are an agency girl I will tell the agency too.
It’s simple their body and their choice. Same principles as the “regular” people and how they view hobbyists participating in this hobby. Outsiders view us like majority view BBFS here however same fundamental principles apply, their body and their choice. Plus you have a higher risk getting STD from a chick you pick up at a bar vs. an SP or MPA who gets tested regularly. Some people enjoy the thrill of it and excitement provided it is always their CHOICE. Don’t fucking forget it. It’s a fundamental breach to attempt to take someone’s choice regarding what they want to do to and with their bodies.
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