Keto Diet

Frankfooter

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Without a caloric deficit you don't lose weight.
If you have a calorie surplus you gain weight.
Don't be ignorant, that is science.
On a keto diet you eat as much as you want and you lose weight.
If you eat high fat, low carbs your body's blood sugar will lower and you will feel more sated and less hungry.
You may end up eating less as a result, its true, but its not a self imposed calorie reduction.
If you get into ketosis your body ends up burning stored brown fat in your body.

Keto is science.
Don't knock it if you haven't tried it or don't know shit about it.
 

squeezer

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Without a caloric deficit you don't lose weight.
If you have a calorie surplus you gain weight.
Don't be ignorant, that is science.
This is exactly correct. No matter what diet you do, it is calories in calories out. The advantage with Keto is that your body learns to use the access fat as fuel but if the calories surpass your maintenance caloric intake, the lbs. start to come back and yes I've done them all.

Eating small clean meals 6 times a day and staying within a caloric deficit also works great but it's hard to eat every 2 or 3 hours with a busy work schedule.

The best two things one can do is eliminate sugars and alcohol from your diet and stay in a caloric deficit 5 days a week.
 

yomero5

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I did the keto diet for 4 months and lost 20 lb of mostly fat. I saw my abs for the first time in 30 years, LOL!
 

koreanjames

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This!

The only small thing I would add to this is your calories out is affected by excercise/activity and of course type of excercise. You do burn fat and expend energy even in your resting state when your body is repairing muscles etc as those processes do require and expend energy (after weight training)

It also makes little sense re stating “eating all that I want” and “losing weight” in the same sentence - the calories consumed need to be reasonable.

This is exactly correct. No matter what diet you do, it is calories in calories out. The advantage with Keto is that your body learns to use the access fat as fuel but if the calories surpass your maintenance caloric intake, the lbs. start to come back and yes I've done them all.

Eating small clean meals 6 times a day and staying within a caloric deficit also works great but it's hard to eat every 2 or 3 hours with a busy work schedule.

The best two things one can do is eliminate sugars and alcohol from your diet and stay in a caloric deficit 5 days a week.
 
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I started keto Dec 30th - am down 12 lbs...having said that, I record all my macros, I exercise 3-4X a week - and I am at a caloric deficit of about 20%. I've def lost fat and gained muscle and eat a higher level of protein rather than the standard 75/20/5 fat/protein/carbs that most ppl on keto do. Theres lots of information and misinformation out there. I just ordered a blood ketone meter so I can start testing my ketone level...My goal is to lose another 15 lbs and then maintain the lifestyle once I'm fat adapted....
 

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Have you personally done Keto? Because this forum is strictly for people who have experience with Keto. Unless you have physically have done Keto, I'm not really interested in what you have to say. I can honestly tell you that it has nothing to do with calories. On my first days of Keto I was eating high fat low carb and I lost 8 pounds. That's me eating as much as I want as long as it follows the guidelines it works.
I did Keto and gained weight. What’s more, I had sustained kidney problems, as well. It is NOT for everyone.
 

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Did you count your calories? You must have a calorific deficit, too, in order to lose fat.
Not according to some in this thread. Of course you have to count calories. I followed my quack’s advice that weight loss was not affected at all by activities and calorie counting. The result was weight gain and kidney issues due to the elevated protein and fat intake. I fired my quack, by the way.
 

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Not according to some in this thread. Of course you have to count calories. I followed my quack’s advice that weight loss was not affected at all by activities and calorie counting. The result was weight gain and kidney issues due to the elevated protein and fat intake. I fired my quack, by the way.
Its because most folks cling to what they want to hear. The latest fad is the carnivore diet. Imagine the stress on the kidneys a strict carnivore diet would more than likely have. I prefer a 8 hour eating window with clean food which includes complex carbs, protien and greens while staying at a calories under maintenance.

Add in activities like weight training and cardio and you're golden.
 

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Its because most folks cling to what they want to hear. The latest fad is the carnivore diet. Imagine the stress on the kidneys a strict carnivore diet would more than likely have. I prefer a 8 hour eating window with clean food which includes complex carbs, protien and greens while staying at a calories under maintenance.

Add in activities like weight training and cardio and you're golden.
That is the perfect way.
 

yomero5

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Not according to some in this thread. Of course you have to count calories. I followed my quack’s advice that weight loss was not affected at all by activities and calorie counting. The result was weight gain and kidney issues due to the elevated protein and fat intake. I fired my quack, by the way.
How are your kidneys now? Are you back to full health?
 

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As with all diets do your research. Keto can have great benefits by getting you off processed foods and junk in general. But do it properly and keep in touch with your doctor. Being healthy is the goal.

xxoo
 

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As with all diets do your research. Keto can have great benefits by getting you off processed foods and junk in general. But do it properly and keep in touch with your doctor. Being healthy is the goal.

xxoo
In my case, it was a spcialist who got me on the keto diet.
 

Belle De Jour

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Didn't knock Keto diet, just stated some FACTS.

Frankfooter and whoever's intrested I'll leave this YouTube debate between 2 very knowledgeable people:
https://youtu.be/u93oh9kC-rU

Belle, you just want people to say you're right?
Have a great day. LOL
Right about what? I'm not here saying go do Keto, I'm here asking about experiences with it. I can't be right unless I'm trying to prove a point.
 

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This is exactly correct. No matter what diet you do, it is calories in calories out. The advantage with Keto is that your body learns to use the access fat as fuel but if the calories surpass your maintenance caloric intake, the lbs. start to come back and yes I've done them all.

Eating small clean meals 6 times a day and staying within a caloric deficit also works great but it's hard to eat every 2 or 3 hours with a busy work schedule.

The best two things one can do is eliminate sugars and alcohol from your diet and stay in a caloric deficit 5 days a week.
When I lost my weight last year, I reduced sugar. That was my start. I was not interested in losing weight fast, I wanted to lose it for good and in a way that would work for me in the long run. I started with no pop and reducing the amount of sugar in my coffee. I went from two teaspoons to one for all last year. This year I cut that in half now as well. My goal is to get to no sugar.

I figured this was better for me personally overall. No point in reducing caloric intake if you will just go back later and will still be eating the same bad food.

I also did small meal sizes. Portion control was big. Now I can maintain a weight with the regular eating I do now. So this year, I will work out to help build my strength in the areas I want and I know that will work in reducing weight this year.

My goal was a better me in long run so if it takes me longer, cool.

But sugar was clearly my main killer. Losing the weight I did from simply removing sugar showed me that.
 

shakenbake

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When I lost my weight last year, I reduced sugar. That was my start. I was not interested in losing weight fast, I wanted to lose it for good and in a way that would work for me in the long run. I started with no pop and reducing the amount of sugar in my coffee. I went from two teaspoons to one for all last year. This year I cut that in half now as well. My goal is to get to no sugar.

I figured this was better for me personally overall. No point in reducing caloric intake if you will just go back later and will still be eating the same bad food.

I also did small meal sizes. Portion control was big. Now I can maintain a weight with the regular eating I do now. So this year, I will work out to help build my strength in the areas I want and I know that will work in reducing weight this year.

My goal was a better me in long run so if it takes me longer, cool.

But sugar was clearly my main killer. Losing the weight I did from simply removing sugar showed me that.
? kudos to you!
 

koreanjames

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Good stuff. Processed sugar is caloric dense and HORRIBLE for people’s health.

The problem is thst it’s heavily in almost all processed foods as it’s dirt cheap (next to free) for the food companies to manufacture.

Sugar is proven to be highly addictive (and legal) .... so people crave it and keep coming back for more of this addictive, nutrientless substance that costs the food companies next to nothing to make.

When I lost my weight last year, I reduced sugar. That was my start. I was not interested in losing weight fast, I wanted to lose it for good and in a way that would work for me in the long run. I started with no pop and reducing the amount of sugar in my coffee. I went from two teaspoons to one for all last year. This year I cut that in half now as well. My goal is to get to no sugar.

I figured this was better for me personally overall. No point in reducing caloric intake if you will just go back later an will still be eating the same bad food.

I also did small meal sizes. Portion control was big. Now I can maintain a weight with the regular eating I do now. So this year, I will work out to help build my strength in the areas I want and I know that will work in reducing weight this year.

My goal was a better me in long run so if it takes me longer, cool.

But sugar was clearly my main killer. Losing the weight I did from simply removing sugar showed me that.
 

Belle De Jour

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Good stuff. Processed sugar is caloric dense and HORRIBLE for people’s health.

The problem is thst it’s heavily in almost all processed foods as it’s dirt cheap (next to free) for the food companies to manufacture.

Sugar is proven to be highly addictive (and legal) .... so people crave it and keep coming back for more of this addictive, nutrientless substance that costs the food companies next to nothing to make.
Stevia is an amazing natural substitute for sugar :)
 
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