Wait a second?
Aren't responsible gun owners trained to calmly and rationally assess a situation like that?
Shooting at a Florida high school
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Aren't responsible gun owners trained to calmly and rationally assess a situation like that?
Your scenario is unlikely because by the time once I've drawn my weapon, I would point it at the intruder and tell him to get out or I'll shoot.
Unless the burglar is drunk, high on drugs or a complete moron, its more likely he'll get scared and hightail it out of there
Hold on a second...
You just said that you do not have the right to shoot an intruder if he only wants to steal your TV.
What if he refuses to leave after your warning, but does nothing to try to harm you?
You gonna shoot? Even if he still has no intention of hurting you?
You're contradicting yourself, as always.
First, that would seem to be the likely profile of a burglar.
Secondly, hasn't anybody taught you not to point a weapon at somebody if you do not intend to shoot him??
Any rational person would call 911. You can hold a gun and make a telephone call at the same time. You know that, right?? Its called multi-tasking
LOL....thats awesome. I want one now :biggrin1:You no doubt have one of these:
You can certainly point a firearm at someone who's invaded your house; it is legal to resist that. That's because you don't know what that person's going to do to you. He may want to kill you, being the criminal that he is. You have your gun drawn for self defense. You are not allowed to shoot that person until you are sure that your life is in danger: that is, if that person advances towards you despite him being warned, or pulls out a weapon and doesn't turn back. You don't have to match the other person's weapon. Even with no weapon, a person can kill you. Once that person retreats, he is not being a threat and you can't shoot.
It takes just a few seconds to call 911. So I don't see a problem calling, even while holding your handgun. You have to be really challenged and uncoordinated not to be able to holda handgun and dial a cell phone at the same time.
If you shoot in self defense, you are going to be arrested in Ontario, regardless of your explanations to the police. You will also have to spend in excess of $20,000 to defend yourself. But Canadian courts have usually acquitted people who had been charged during self defense. IF you show that you feared for your life, or the life of your loved ones., than you are justified using lethal force. What do you think the police do anyway? they will pull out their gun when threatened.
This is why in Ontario (actually in Canada and many US States) if you are concerned about home defence, you would want to think twice before reaching for a gun. If a homeowner is worried, first line would be exterior lighting (eg: motion activated). Next would be secure entry points (good locks on doors and windows). Third would be an alarm system combined with a panic button or even something as simple as smart lights with an “All On” button programmed into your phone. Most burglars would be deterred by this. If you’re still worried and you don’t think you could perform under a high stress situation, then get a non-lethal weapon. Too many gun owners believe they could safely handle their weapons in a real life, high stress situation. Given the number who can’t safely handle their weapons at a range, or in the field - this is a dangerous belief.
Yep.
I live in a condo now, so I'm not concerned, but when I had a house, and living alone, I had an alarm system with panic button beside my bed. And a steel baton under my bed if needed.
so if you beat the shit out of an intruder with a baton and killed that person, would it be the same with a gun and get your ass charged either way, one being more work
Gee, thanks for the revelation.so if you beat the shit out of an intruder with a baton and killed that person, would it be the same with a gun and get your ass charged either way, one being more work
I didn't realize that killing is killing, nor that beating someone with a baton is more work than pulling a trigger.
that's a BB phone within a BB gun - Obsolete!You no doubt have one of these:
say hello to my friend
Panic buttons are great. The problem is that police will probably not show up in time. This is especially true in rural areas.
Burglars don't normally break into a house if they know that someone is inside. They pick a house that appears to be empty as it's an easier target. So yes, outside lights coming on will deter the 'sane' burglar. The real problem is when an intruder doesn't care whether anybody is inside, because they're going to neutralize the occupants if they get in their way, and will probably leave before the cops get there. These include intruders influenced by drugs, or drug withdrawl symptoms, or the sociopath: they do not reason, and don't care about the risks: they are fixated with one goal. Do you actually think your secure doors and windows can withstand a crowbar?
If you don't think you can handle your firearm in a stressful situation, then by all means, don't equip yourself with one. But that doesn't mean that nobody else should be denied because you can't. Many people in the US practice at the range. In Canada, you HAVE to practice at the range in order to justify owning a handgun, at least in Ontario and Quebec.
Care to share your statistics on whether too many gun owners believe they could safely handle their weapons in a real life high stress situation?
What's the screen for?
Is that a suppressor. Or is that an airsoft?
Is that a suppressor. Or is that an airsoft?
that's a BB phone within a BB gun - Obsolete!
say hello to my friend
Anti-gun organisations are very few, but very vocal, get a lot of press time by a sympathetic media that in turn publishes nonsense and hysteria to the public, and have a lot of influence with uninformed politicians.
They just want to ban the most dangerous guns...... until they're all gone, since all guns are potentially lethal. They always come for more, and each event in the US is accompanied by an outcry, even though Canadian regulations are a lot more stringent, and such occurrences in Canada are exceedingly rare.
