After A Sexual Encounter You Find She's Transgender....

IM469

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Seriously?

If you're not into it walk away.

Only a crybaby is going to worry about "consent" and go legal. Only a nutbar is going to get physical.
In my mind, if you have a penis (particularly if it's larger than yours) pop up unexpectedly during a date you thought was a woman - that is assault in every selfish aspect as the act of slipping off a condom is during sex. You are putting your own selfish interests ahead of the victim and intentionally subjecting someone to an experience they do not expect nor want.

Transgenders have rights but they don't gain the privilege of trampling on other peoples rights. While I may not react violently - I wouldn't blame those that do. Under that kind of sexual assault - we all react differently.
 

james t kirk

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In my mind, if you have a penis (particularly if it's larger than yours) pop up unexpectedly during a date you thought was a woman - that is assault in every selfish aspect as the act of slipping off a condom is during sex. You are putting your own selfish interests ahead of the victim and intentionally subjecting someone to an experience they do not expect nor want.

Transgenders have rights but they don't gain the privilege of trampling on other peoples rights. While I may not react violently - I wouldn't blame those that do. Under that kind of sexual assault - we all react differently.
I'm going to speculate that anyone who gets physical over an incident such as described (hypothetically) is going to find themselves up on charges as the reaction would be considered disproportionate to the crime. Hence why I said if you're offended, best course of action is to just walk away. (That said, my advice to anyone thinking of doing such a thing that they not do it because you never know who you are fucking with.)

And I don't think it's sexual assault either.

If a tgirl asks a guy if he wants a blow job and he says OK, it's consented to. End of story.

I'd be willing to bet the farm that if you read the legislation regarding what is defined as sexual assault that there is nothing in statuate that says anything about if you were misled with respect to the gender of the person to whom you gave consent to then you have been sexually assaulted.
 

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Cue Boy George and the crying game theme song:)
Can't remember who cried in this movie?
Maybe all OP can do is cry and do his due diligence next time?
 

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Legal action? So, a guy commits an illegal act and pays to have sex with a women who was formerly a man and then wants to proceed with a legal action for false advertising and getting him all upset? Interesting. So, if a drug lord hires someone to launder money and the hired help steals some it the drug lord should have a right to legal action? In short, they have to confess to illegal activity to get their day in court. Right... I will stick with buyer beware....
 

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im pretty sure I banged a guy in the ass. He/she is a great looking Filipino or Thai provider that works out of Dixie and Matheson. Super hot no boy parts, I had a great time. Happened to be reading some reviews after my stay and it was suggested he/she was post op. I was like wow. It has nothing to do with your predisposition, only with your eyes. think about that for a moment.
will repeat
 

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This is a situation where the law is not going to provide a result that most people will be happy with.

Now if you are talking of morals or ethics the O.P. states he asked the other person, and they lied.
 

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Jim Norton was talking about his fondness for trannies. Was describing an encounter where he was getting head, and looking down thinking to himself "broad back and shoulders on this gal, but she seems to know what she's doing, so who am I to judge"
or you could have the Begbie reaction
 

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When you met her did you not think that something about her does not seem or feel right? When I happen to watch a show and there some random ladies that are introduced on that show, I can pick out right away all the ladies that were not women by birth. To me there is something about the person in question that indicates she is transgender. If I were in your shoes then I would politely decline and walk away.
 

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Awesome! lol ^^^

In reality, it's probably best that someone tells you that they used to be a man, if you think you're hooking up with a woman. But if someone identifies as a woman and they so convincingly look like a woman, that you had no idea they were born a man and all you got was a BJ, you should probably just get over it.

BTW, Charlemagne, did you enjoy the BJ?
I'm speaking hypothetically. Don't pretend like you know my stance on dating or sex with Transwomen.
 

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In my mind, if you have a penis (particularly if it's larger than yours) pop up unexpectedly during a date you thought was a woman - that is assault in every selfish aspect as the act of slipping off a condom is during sex. You are putting your own selfish interests ahead of the victim and intentionally subjecting someone to an experience they do not expect nor want.

Transgenders have rights but they don't gain the privilege of trampling on other peoples rights. While I may not react violently - I wouldn't blame those that do. Under that kind of sexual assault - we all react differently.
We are talking about prostitution here, are we not? Since buying sex is illegal, buying misrepresented sex is irrelevant, IMO.
 

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I'm going to speculate that anyone who gets physical over an incident such as described (hypothetically) is going to find themselves up on charges as the reaction would be considered disproportionate to the crime. Hence why I said if you're offended, best course of action is to just walk away. (That said, my advice to anyone thinking of doing such a thing that they not do it because you never know who you are fucking with.)

And I don't think it's sexual assault either.

If a tgirl asks a guy if he wants a blow job and he says OK, it's consented to. End of story.

I'd be willing to bet the farm that if you read the legislation regarding what is defined as sexual assault that there is nothing in statuate that says anything about if you were misled with respect to the gender of the person to whom you gave consent to then you have been sexually assaulted.
I don't deny the physical assault charges that follows as I remember years ago a trans sexual was murdered and the perpetrator argued that his reaction was normal for any homophobic male. He was still convicted.

Re: And I don't think it's sexual assault either. If a tgirl asks a guy if he wants a blow job and he says OK, it's consented to. End of story.

Interesting that a consent from a tgirl misrepresenting herself isn't assault but consensual sex where a condom is slipped off is assault. (the later of which I do agree).

So let's expand your 5 minute BJ quickie to a tgirl advertising as a female on a dating site and actively sustaining that lie into the eventual and inevitable conclusion in the bedroom. Obviously the victim of this charade is in for the same level of shock as a girl who finds out her consensual sexual encounter has a surprise she wasn't counting on. I maintain the same selfish interest of sexual gratification at the victims expense is present in both cases.

I suggest that the current laws are not a measure of right or wrong. There were laws that allowed burning witches, segregating blacks and currently (thanks Harper) make it an offense for grown adults to negotiate sexual favours.
 

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I don't deny the physical assault charges that follows as I remember years ago a trans sexual was murdered and the perpetrator argued that his reaction was normal for any homophobic male. He was still convicted.

Re: And I don't think it's sexual assault either. If a tgirl asks a guy if he wants a blow job and he says OK, it's consented to. End of story.

Interesting that a consent from a tgirl misrepresenting herself isn't assault but consensual sex where a condom is slipped off is assault. (the later of which I do agree).

So let's expand your 5 minute BJ quickie to a tgirl advertising as a female on a dating site and actively sustaining that lie into the eventual and inevitable conclusion in the bedroom. Obviously the victim of this charade is in for the same level of shock as a girl who finds out her consensual sexual encounter has a surprise she wasn't counting on. I maintain the same selfish interest of sexual gratification at the victims expense is present in both cases.

I suggest that the current laws are not a measure of right or wrong. There were laws that allowed burning witches, segregating blacks and currently (thanks Harper) make it an offense for grown adults to negotiate sexual favours.
You either consent or you don't.

The law does not make a distinction that the end result meets your expectations. I.e. if you consent to a receiving a blow job and the other person consents to giving it, but you as a heterosexual male expected that blowjob to be given by a woman. I don't think a man should be able to say, "I consented to receiving a blow job from what I thought was a woman and it turned out to be man" and be able to press charges. Get over it and move on. You asked for and received a blow job from a willing participant you came, so be it.

I understand your "yeah, but" argument about a guy slipping off a condom, or poking a hole in a condom to get a woman pregnant, or slipping a finger up an asshole when it was not desired, or cumming in a mouth unannounced. Is that sexual assault? In my opinion, no it is not. Consent was given to engage in sexual interaction. That consent carries certain risks and I believe that people need to accept the risk that comes with sexual interaction. Be that an unplanned pregnancy, a cum shot where you didn't want it, or a finger in the asshole. You'll live. There is simply not enough time and resources to deal with everyone who has regrets and feels victimized. The way things are going, you're going to need a written contract about an inch thick spelling out the terms of the sex so that all parties are liable. Sounds absurd, but....

I'm not saying that deception is cool. I don't like people who do things they were specifically told not to do. I'm saying that that's a risk you take.

Some may call this blaming the victim, but I call it taking responsibility for your own actions. But here's the funny thing, you will get over blaming yourself far easier and far quicker than you will thinking of yourself as a victim and blaming someone else.
 

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IM469

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You either consent or you don't.

Some may call this blaming the victim, but I call it taking responsibility for your own actions. But here's the funny thing, you will get over blaming yourself far easier and far quicker than you will thinking of yourself as a victim and blaming someone else.
As a judge, fraud will never find a conviction in your court. There is always consent - so the ring was made of tin, services misrepresented, etc, etc, etc. You consented -'caveat emptor'. If consent is followed by robbery, murder, etc .... is there a limit that consent absolves whatever follows ? If yes .. or yeah but ... then I submit that consent to circumstances that are misrepresented does represent victimizing and we are only arguing the appropriate penalty .. verbal abuse .. kick in the balls ... death penalty .... :confused:
 

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I fucked a few ladyboys in Thailand. The last one i had no idea til we got to the room. Got an incredible blow job and pounder that ass twice. Nice girl who really was born the wrong gender. Looking to get her junk chopped when she could afford it. Most discos don't allow lbs inside. She said even the Thai bouncers are fooled, til she exaggerates her movements once inside. None of them can resist doing it.
 

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What possible legal consequences could there be: A refund? Damages for therapy?

Not to make light of the situation - but if I just got blown by a girl who used to be a guy you're suggesting I get resolution by being fucked up the ass by a lawyer?

Lol. Luckily you can tell with most transgenders IRL. Please no internet examples
 

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Seriously?

If you're not into it walk away.

Only a crybaby is going to worry about "consent" and go legal. Only a nutbar is going to get physical.
I would expect the only time we would here about it is if someone used it claiming self-defence after beating the shit out of the trans person.


And I think there would be different answers whether this was a relationship or just a hook-up. If I was dating someone for months and found they hid something significant about themselves I would be upset, not about what they were hiding but about the lack of honesty. For a hook-up, I'd see it as any other sex that wasn't what I hoped for; just remember not to do it again.
 
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