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MattRoxx

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Look here shackie, Trump isnt the only one calling elections rigged:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/trumps-not-only-one-thinks-system-rigged/
Did you read the article you linked to? Trump is the only one calling the elections rigged. There are out-of-context quiotes from some Dems but they aren't saying the election is rigged. It's just a few instances where they used the word to talk about something else. Here is one example from your article:
“A rigged economy,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) repeated throughout the Democratic primary and continues to do so.
He said nothing at all about elections being rigged.
 

AK-47

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Did you read the article you linked to? Trump is the only one calling the elections rigged. There are out-of-context quiotes from some Dems but they aren't saying the election is rigged. It's just a few instances where they used the word to talk about something else. Here is one example from your article:

He said nothing at all about elections being rigged
Thats not true at all, Bernie Sanders (and his supporters) have said the Democratic nomination was completely rigged in Hillary's favour. The super delegate system is what they were mostly referring to.

And here we have more fuckery going on:

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...es-and-birth-dates-changed-on-forms/92365268/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...gible-dead-voters-american-voter-rolls-video/

Also when Trump said election system is rigged he was mostly referring to 90% of the media being against him, and less so to the minor election fraud that goes on in some places. Its debatable whether the latter is enough to sway an entire election
 

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In light of that I don't believe I've seen a post from you denouncing Trump for his irresponsible and dangerous proclamations of a rigged election. It is an affront to the democratic process and could potentially incite violence if/when he loses.
Offices are being firebombed, and now it appears proof of voter intimidation against Trump supporters, and you are in "what if" about Trump people when the Clinton supporter are already engaged in what you fear.

When are you going to realize that the anger being felt by both sides is due to the existing political system. That it needs to be cleaned up. And that Clinton is not the answer. Her employees and operatives actions prove she is willing to commit illegal and unethical acts to get in.

What do you think she will do once there. She will make Nixon look like a saint.
 

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Offices are being firebombed, and now it appears proof of voter intimidation against Trump supporters,
So you agree with Trump's dangerous rhetoric with your supposed justification. And if there is violence after the election you are ok with that.
 

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So you agree with Trump's dangerous rhetoric with your supposed justification. And if there is violence after the election you are ok with that
Your side doesnt need Trump's dangerous rhetoric to become violent, you've always been violent.
I followed politics for the last 30 years and every 4 years its the same shit with you sorry lot.

The only reason its more exposed now is because of the internet and social media.

Some quick examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBkRHwHXaU

I'm sure I could find a lot more though
 

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Your side doesnt need Trump's dangerous rhetoric to become violent, you've always been violent.
I followed politics for the last 30 years and every 4 years its the same shit with your sorry lot.

The only reason its more exposed now is because of the internet and social media
CSIS has mentioned the threat from right wing extremists as being as serious here as from Islamic extremists.
What they have never warned about is left wing extremists.
 

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Thats not true at all, Bernie Sanders (and his supporters) have said the Democratic nomination was completely rigged in Hillary's favour. The super delegate system is what they were mostly referring to.
News flash:

The nomination process is not the election.

Breaking news:

The media are not part of the formal election process, so implicating the media has nothing to do with a claiming a rigged election. Maybe Trump should learn that that is a completely different issue.

Funny that he had no problem using the media to his advantage during the primary process.
 

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Your side doesnt need Trump's dangerous rhetoric to become violent, you've always been violent.
I followed politics for the last 30 years and every 4 years its the same shit with you sorry lot.

The only reason its more exposed now is because of the internet and social media.

Some quick examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBkRHwHXaU

I'm sure I could find a lot more though
The little old lady in the wheelchair that the media claimed was punched by Trump fans was actually a paid ACTOR from the left side to make Trump supporters seem violent to the unknowing sheep. This just keeps on getting better and better.
 

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News flash:

The nomination process is not the election.

Breaking news:

The media are not part of the formal election process, so implicating the media has nothing to do with a claiming a rigged election. Maybe Trump should learn that that is a completely different issue.

Funny that he had no problem using the media to his advantage during the primary process.
Newsflash: The media has a huge influence on how people think, especially Liberal sheeple.
Newsflash: Democratic nomination is a form of election itself, and Sanders said it was rigged.

Newsflash: Trump now leads Florida early voting by 10,000+ votes:

https://countyballotfiles.elections...eports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
 

Butler1000

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So you agree with Trump's dangerous rhetoric with your supposed justification. And if there is violence after the election you are ok with that.
Again with the ifs.

The fact is that it's paid actors for the Democrats who have engaged in violent acts, incitement of violent acts, attempted suppression of free speech at Trump rallies, and other dirty tactics.

Trying to claim Trump is worse, because of the possibility when Clinton Supporters are have already done what you fear is just so naive, partisan or just plain dumb.

Seriously. The deflection is so weak, just acknowledge the dirty tactics by Democrats and move on.
 

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CSIS has mentioned the threat from right wing extremists as being as serious here as from Islamic extremists.
What they have never warned about is left wing extremists.
I remember the G20 riots. Instigated by left wing types, many from Montreal. As well as several other G20 events.

The right wing extremists are bad and should be monitored. And disrupted. But don't think lefties are innocent. The BLM disruption of Pride could have gotten ugly. And it was unwarranted as well.
 

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Unfortunately you wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you right in the face. You guys have more angles than a protractor with all your blatant excuses for obvious truths. What you are seeing is illegal, and I don't care who does it, right or left. The problem with you is that you cannot or will not admit this is a huge problem. You just want to say, it happens, so what? Pathetic...
So how huge is it? Three or four vague videos? Of what?

You made the charge of "…a lot of voting fraud": Give us numbers. I'll willingly admit what you provide evidence for. But you've offered none yet. Not of fraud, not of voting fraud, nor of a lot of anything but Trumpian biases.
 

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So how huge is it? Three or four vague videos? Of what?

You made the charge of "…a lot of voting fraud": Give us numbers. I'll willingly admit what you provide evidence for. But you've offered none yet. Not of fraud, not of voting fraud, nor of a lot of anything but Trumpian biases.
This argument is misleading, and trotted out far too often.

In any allegation of misconduct, you never start out with all the proof. You start out with enough proof to give credence to the allegation to justify full investigation. Calling for concerns to be silenced because a full investigation has yet to be conducted that fully proves the allegation just denies this reality.

There are some historically proven cases of voting fraud. There are other cases where there was strong evidence to suspect voting fraud, but those cases were not pursued as they were not material to the result of the election (e.g. Romney getting 0 votes in certain Philadelphia precincts). There is evidence of weaknesses in the voter registration system and in certain voting machines that could be exploited (deceased voter registrations that have not been updated, weak voter identification requirements, voting systems in some states that don't incorporate paper backups). Now, there is some evidence that contractors of the DNC have at least said (whether fairly edited or not) things that indicate people are planning to exploit weaknesses of the system to defraud the election results.

None of this is unequivocal proof that there has ever been widespread election fraud which was material to the result of an election, or that such widespread fraud will occur in this election. However, a reasonable person would consider this information seriously, and would be attentive to whether any of this occurs during this election, because many people feel that the vote may be close enough for voting fraud to materially impact the result.

The call of the Trump camp is to be watchful of the election process. I can't think why that would ever be an inappropriate or unfounded message.

Now, if either camp tries to make something out of nothing after the election, then you'll find me on board with the notion that you should put the integrity of the democratic process ahead of poor loser excuse making.
 
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I also wanna add, the news media isnt in the business of reporting the news anymore, they are in the business of telling us what to think, who we should vote for and whether our speech and actions are politically correct or not.

And if you dont toe their line, it could get you fired or end your career (see Billy Bush).

It Trump does win we could possibly see the decline of MSM.
Especially now that everyone has a cellphone camera and can just upload their "news" reports to Liveleak
 

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I also wanna add, the news media isnt in the business of reporting the news anymore, they are in the business of telling us what to think, who we should vote for and whether our speech and actions are politically correct or not.
They are in the business of selling ads.

Period.
 

AK-47

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They are in the business of selling ads
You obviously missed the point again. But I dont think that surprises anyone
 

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You obviously missed the point again. But I dont think that surprises anyone
No, you missed the point: they are in the business of selling ads. They run the stories and the opinions that appeal to their audience so that people stay tuned in and watch the ads. They exist to make money. They make money by running content people want to watch so that people will watch the ads they show.

That's their business model.
 

AK-47

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No, you missed the point: they are in the business of selling ads. They run the stories and the opinions that appeal to their audience so that people stay tuned in and watch the ads. They exist to make money. They make money by running content people want to watch so that people will watch the ads they show.

That's their business model
No kidding fuji, is that how things work??

You fail to understand their ads would sell just as well if they bombarded the airwaves with all of Hillary's scandals instead of Trump's scandals. But because most MSM is corporate owned, who dont want Trump as POTUS, they chose to run with the Trump "scandals" and turned a blind eye to Hillary's emails, her wikileaks....etc...etc
 
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