Im lightning quick to criticize BLM, don't even have to be quick when im already there. How does this justify the crimes committed by other police officers? The equivalent of this action would be police shooting the first innocent black person they saw when a crime has been committed by a black thug. Police don't go around shooting random people, the blm protests are all defending thugs that were having a physical confrontation with the cops. Revenge killing is a stupid gang mentality thats not justice.
Three Dallas police officers deceased along with seven wounded tonight during protest
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Well I live in the USA. Was born in Canada and moved to the US a while back. Sadly this is a result of a much deeper problem. It really all started hundred of years ago when slavery was permitted. The black population was imported as slaves and of course these peoples got the crappy end of the stick. Black peoples have suffer for century and were considered animals. As a result, they were left with no chance to get an education. Apply this to generations onto generations of peoples prevented from decency and respect and you get racial segregation that's perpetuated from father to son. This racial BS gets caught in an infinite loop. You then confined these peoples to live in low housing conditions and you create ghettos. It's not until the mid 60's that laws are finally pass to afford the black communities the rights to ride a bus or to go pee in the same toilet as the white people do! In short white people have created this problem from scratch longtime ago and now it's coming to a head and it's about to get uglier. Ask yourselves why you're afraid when you encounter a big black guy late at night? Because you were told from growing-up that they were bad peoples, uneducated and not to be trusted and they were most likely criminals. If a white kid wear a hoody, he's cool. If a black kid wear a hoody, he's hiding something or he's a criminal. Well guess what? Cops in the USA are just like any other white guy. They have pre conceived notions that all black peoples are bad guys. Hence, shoot first ask questions later. I'm not even sure it's possible to eradicate racism on this planet sadly
at this point it is a race war and both sides are basically killing anyone from the other side with little provocation. It is like the Israelis after a suicide bombing... they get revenge and it bears no relation to the suicide bomber.
To be fair, statistics show Black people have lower education and higher crime rates and prison rates. So there is some truth to it. Of course that's not to say every white person is an angel or a black person is bad.Well I live in the USA. Was born in Canada and moved to the US a while back. Sadly this is a result of a much deeper problem. It really all started hundred of years ago when slavery was permitted. The black population was imported as slaves and of course these peoples got the crappy end of the stick. Black peoples have suffer for century and were considered animals. As a result, they were left with no chance to get an education. Apply this to generations onto generations of peoples prevented from decency and respect and you get racial segregation that's perpetuated from father to son. This racial BS gets caught in an infinite loop. You then confined these peoples to live in low housing conditions and you create ghettos. It's not until the mid 60's that laws are finally pass to afford the black communities the rights to ride a bus or to go pee in the same toilet as the white people do! In short white people have created this problem from scratch longtime ago and now it's coming to a head and it's about to get uglier. Ask yourselves why you're afraid when you encounter a big black guy late at night? Because you were told from growing-up that they were bad peoples, uneducated and not to be trusted and they were most likely criminals. If a white kid wear a hoody, he's cool. If a black kid wear a hoody, he's hiding something or he's a criminal. Well guess what? Cops in the USA are just like any other white guy. They have pre conceived notions that all black peoples are bad guys. Hence, shoot first ask questions later. I'm not even sure it's possible to eradicate racism on this planet sadly
For example, if someone was walking down a dark alley and had a choice between bumping into:
1. An 80 year old lady with a hoodie
2. A black guy with a hoodie
3. A white guy with a hoodie
4. An 8 year old boy with a hoodie
Guess what? Based on what I've seen, read, and taking into account demographics, I'd put the 8 and 80 year olds as no threats.... although if I really had to choose one as more of a potential threat, I'd probably choose the kid. The white guy as a possible threat, and the black guy as potentially the biggest threat. Chances are 99% nothing bad will happen..... BUT if something did happen, I'd place my betting dollar the black guy has the biggest probability of something bad happening.
Not all demographics are created equal. You are fooling yourself if you think every combination of demographics has an equal chance of threat.
As for your opinion about slavery and how it is a longstanding issue that has lead to what is today, perhaps so. But maybe not.
Although nothing will ever be perfect, I firmly believe that if people act cool and don't cause trouble that wounds heal and people can get along a lot better. I'll give you a good example...... Germany was the root cause of WW1 and WW2. Taking over the world, killing millions, Nazis, concentration camps, fire bombing cities you name it they did it.
They lost. WWII ended in the 1940s.
Yet, even just decades later, Germany smartened up. The governments improved, people acted better and didn't go with the Nazi BS so much anymore. After a while, Germany is back to being part of the global economy. Does anyone treat Germany like assheads like during WW1 and WW2? I don't see it. It's not like people have an ingrained mindset that all Germans are bad. Maybe shortly after that time, people still hated them for doing so much killing and such, but if enough time passes, things improve and the mindset of the past generations are gone as they die off.
It depends on the jurisdiction. In many places police in the US are horribly underpaid and in those places you get some pretty awful police.
The issue is that the force budget is drawn from the local community so in poor black areas there's no budget and so you get low paid police. In richer areas there's budget for the police and you get good quality policing.
But things are escalating. Americans are reaping what they've sown over the last couple hundred years
Poverty,cultures of violence, discrimination, a drugged and medicated nation of disgruntled automotons with nothing left to lose. Great Hollywood script for the final thriller........what should we title it???? Pass the popcorn
Dallas Police Chief just now: "The suspect said he wanted to kill white police officers. He stood with #BLM. He hated Cops."
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/751396398273363969
why i am not surpised?
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/751396398273363969
why i am not surpised?
http://archive.is/ShoHQ
BLM reaching out to ISIS terror cells?
Measuray Franklin
If you want to stop this. Word needs to get to Isis. When you protest, protest with signs asking Isis to help you. Do this every TIME they kill our people, I bet you you will get the attention and support you so dearly need. Protest for Isis to help us! Isis don't hate black people, but the whites want you to think they do. Call on Isis, cuz you damn president won't help you. Your damn hip hop rappers, Oprah, Tyler Perry, Beyonce, none of them, but Isis. Call up Isis in your protest on social media. Call!
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Judy Katherine Bayless
Facebook Official's, take this account down now, this guy is calling out to Isis !!!!! They are Terrorist !!! Why is he still on Facebook ????
BLM reaching out to ISIS terror cells?
Measuray Franklin
If you want to stop this. Word needs to get to Isis. When you protest, protest with signs asking Isis to help you. Do this every TIME they kill our people, I bet you you will get the attention and support you so dearly need. Protest for Isis to help us! Isis don't hate black people, but the whites want you to think they do. Call on Isis, cuz you damn president won't help you. Your damn hip hop rappers, Oprah, Tyler Perry, Beyonce, none of them, but Isis. Call up Isis in your protest on social media. Call!
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Judy Katherine Bayless
Facebook Official's, take this account down now, this guy is calling out to Isis !!!!! They are Terrorist !!! Why is he still on Facebook ????
Sad, but true.Well I live in the USA. Was born in Canada and moved to the US a while back. Sadly this is a result of a much deeper problem. It really all started hundred of years ago when slavery was permitted. The black population was imported as slaves and of course these peoples got the crappy end of the stick. Black peoples have suffer for century and were considered animals. As a result, they were left with no chance to get an education. Apply this to generations onto generations of peoples prevented from decency and respect and you get racial segregation that's perpetuated from father to son. This racial BS gets caught in an infinite loop. You then confined these peoples to live in low housing conditions and you create ghettos. It's not until the mid 60's that laws are finally pass to afford the black communities the rights to ride a bus or to go pee in the same toilet as the white people do! In short white people have created this problem from scratch longtime ago and now it's coming to a head and it's about to get uglier. Ask yourselves why you're afraid when you encounter a big black guy late at night? Because you were told from growing-up that they were bad peoples, uneducated and not to be trusted and they were most likely criminals. If a white kid wear a hoody, he's cool. If a black kid wear a hoody, he's hiding something or he's a criminal. Well guess what? Cops in the USA are just like any other white guy. They have pre conceived notions that all black peoples are bad guys. Hence, shoot first ask questions later. I'm not even sure it's possible to eradicate racism on this planet sadly
I don't think that this shooting will be or should be tied to the BLM.
This was probably just a handful of very angry and screwed up people who used the BLM march for their own goals.
There is probably zero chance that the BLM would set up their own march and protesters as decoys and the BLM movement have already said they do not support these murderers.
Its a horrible and tragic escalation of events that we thought came to a head last summer, but just started repeating.
The big question is how do you fix this?
The only real way is to give the black community some hope for change, however that can happen.
Depending on which police officer you ask even the 8 year old is a threat. Check out the story where a city in the states paid millions to a family because a cop within seconds of arriving on the scene shot a black kid in a park with a toy gun.
The education gap is real. Unlike in Canada pay for teachers varies greatly and there isn't a lot of incentive to work in an inner city school.
It's systemic racism that causes these problems. In some cases it's black but depending on the part of the US you are in it could just as easily be latino or aboriginal or white. I say it is systemic because a person with a black sounding name has a harder time getting a job (see experiment where identical resumes except for name were submitted).
As for the effects of slavery. I would say it a huge scar on the black community's psyche. Not to mention the civil rights movement was only 50 years ago. Not experiencing an upbringing like that I don't think we can really grasp it. But put quite simply, I think we can all agree that an abused child or animal is going to display irregular behavior. So it stands to reason that the effects of a negative environment would have an adverse effect on people.
But I will say that black people do share some of the responsibility..... for example helping police with crime and not fathering children and leaving. Now I'm not saying all blacks do this but some certainly need to step up.
Also, in you scenario of the hoodie a big factor is how the person approaches the person. I don't know how many of you deal with conflicts but have you ever noticed that if you approach someone calmly and respectfully it usually goes well. But if you start screaming and yelling it doesn't? So there is also that part about police training and conduct that needs to be looked at as well.
I would start with
1) more black cops in black neighbourhoods
2) better inner city education
3) more support..... after school programs, tutoring/homework help, job skill preparation
4) involve black community leaders in the process
5) better training for police with regards to conflict management
6) support with food.... it is difficult to get a healthy meal in some of these rough neighbourhoods. This has a much bigger effect than you think. Let's say you are a single parent just barely hanging on. What happens to your family when you get heart disease, diabetes etc?
All of this depends on the parents/families being responsible to raise their children properly. If families (black white hispanic asian etc.) don't instill the importance of education, responsibility and respect for others and society in their children, every other point is moot imho.
100% agree. It's ridiculous how the media has covered shootings of black men by white police officers. In an attempt to look "progressive" they completely crank up racial tensions.
The BLM movement should be absolutely condemned as a hate group, same as the KKK. Yet see how everyone treats them different? Don't support BLM? You must be a racist bigot. Every high-profile individual is afraid to speak out against them because it goes against the flow of the tide.
Hopefully now we can get past that.
WTF? Glad this guy is a former congressman. Fucking moron!Former congressman Joe Walsh chimes in
On the other side of the coin, here is the opinion of a white, former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts:
July 7, 2016
There Is No Excuse For The American Police
If unaccountalbe police brutality continues, will American citizens come to the conclusion that cops are criminal thugs of great danger to the public and must be shot down on sight before they murder again? Is the report of police shot by snipers in Dallas an indication that the wanton murders by police are bringing retribution down on the police? An eye for an eye.
The goon thugs have done a good job of generating hatred of police and proving that Amerians would be far safer in the absence of police who during 8 years of the iraqi War killed more Americans than we lost troops in combat.
Here are today’s citizen casualties:
http://sputniknews.com/us/20160707/1042611700/utah-woman-police-bodycam-assault.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-crowd-gathers-scene-minnesota-police-shooting-40396832
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/6/12105380/alton-sterling-police-shooting-baton-rouge-louisiana
The Amerian police are a disgrace. They are far more brutal than the Nazi Gestapo, who when they asked for your papers said “please.” The American police shoot first and demand your papers after you are dead.
How did an allegedly free democratic country get a police force that consists of unaccountable psychopaths?
How sick is American society to tolerate routine and everyday murder by police? What pathology afflicts Americans that they tolerate routine brutal murder of their fellow citizens?
What goes around comes around. Now that the police are grieving perhaps they will finally come to grips with the grief and sorrow they have inflicted on the friends and relatives of those murdered by police.
July 7, 2016
There Is No Excuse For The American Police
If unaccountalbe police brutality continues, will American citizens come to the conclusion that cops are criminal thugs of great danger to the public and must be shot down on sight before they murder again? Is the report of police shot by snipers in Dallas an indication that the wanton murders by police are bringing retribution down on the police? An eye for an eye.
The goon thugs have done a good job of generating hatred of police and proving that Amerians would be far safer in the absence of police who during 8 years of the iraqi War killed more Americans than we lost troops in combat.
Here are today’s citizen casualties:
http://sputniknews.com/us/20160707/1042611700/utah-woman-police-bodycam-assault.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-crowd-gathers-scene-minnesota-police-shooting-40396832
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/6/12105380/alton-sterling-police-shooting-baton-rouge-louisiana
The Amerian police are a disgrace. They are far more brutal than the Nazi Gestapo, who when they asked for your papers said “please.” The American police shoot first and demand your papers after you are dead.
How did an allegedly free democratic country get a police force that consists of unaccountable psychopaths?
How sick is American society to tolerate routine and everyday murder by police? What pathology afflicts Americans that they tolerate routine brutal murder of their fellow citizens?
What goes around comes around. Now that the police are grieving perhaps they will finally come to grips with the grief and sorrow they have inflicted on the friends and relatives of those murdered by police.
