Blue Jays: 2016 Edition

[ultistar]

well I was doubly mad at Gibbons tonight because I did not know why EE was out of line up....he should have left Dickey in during the 7th..he is a veteran, generally pitching well and was better than our bullpen options.....the Phillies pitcher put on a clinic in mixing pitches.....felt sorry for diamond....combination of slow and wild. Zeke contributes again...

Zeke is pretty awesome this year, ride the hot hand, I say give the man a chance.
they CLAIM EE had a jammed finger, then he comes back today and gets right back to hitting like a monster.
Of course they will claim the rest is what helped him heal, so we can never disprove it.
In a game when Thole is catching Dickey, we could have used EE's hot bat instead of Smoak to give us a better chance to win.

 

[AK-47]

They optioned Loup and Scott Diamond

I'm not sure what they ever saw in Scott Diamond, the guy's fastball topped out at 88MPH, his breaking stuff was so-so.

Dont even get me going on Fruity Loops

 

[AK-47]

Hey shackie, this is you: https://media.giphy.com/media/o6SQRR0Etm90Y/giphy.gif

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

HHhmmmm......I'm not sure I trust Loopy with an 11-2 lead.

A 15-2 lead maybe, but not an 11-2 lead

ROFLMAO.......come on, he's not THAT bad!!







Okay, maybe he is :blue:

 

[shack]

Dont even get me going on Fruity Loops

You need to get with the times. It is now LGBT Loops.

 

[black booty lover]

so NOW gibby has said Sanchez is going to the bullpen at somepoint. Jeez....

 

[Toronto Passions]

Poor overworked Russ Martin. Division 2 college ball equivalent Thole (or whatever his name is) is not the proper backup answer. I consider that backup role a serious trade deadline (or sooner) concern.

Just saying....

Philip

 

[shack]

so NOW gibby has said Sanchez is going to the bullpen at somepoint. Jeez....

What was his reasoning?

Gibby drawl "Well ya' know Shapeero doesn't want to spend on a big contract for a proven reliever so we have to figure out something internal. I hate losing a stud starter but we also hate losing late leads even more.

 

[Toronto Passions]

What was his reasoning?

Gibby drawl "Well ya' know Shapeero doesn't want to spend on a big contract for a proven reliever so we have to figure out something internal. I hate losing a stud starter but we also hate losing late leads even more.

Something tells me Storen will be just fine.

Philip

 

[ultistar]

I wrote a few weeks back, I think they will let Sanchez start until the AS break and then evaluate. That should be about 125 innings. Then he may rack up another 35IP from the bullpen for a total of 160IP.
There's some theory that says pitchers should increase by no more than 20% of their previous high. Sanchez's high was 133 a few years back. So 20% more is almost exactly 160IP.

Stroman's career high is 166 IP, so his 20% increased limit is 200 IP.
Happ's career high is 172 IP, so his number is 208 IP.
Dickey and Estrada should get to 200+ IP easily.

DHutch and/or Chavez should give us enough decent starts from the 5 spot to keep us going in the 2nd half.
I can see Jays giving Sanchez the day off before DHutch/Chavez starts in prep for a longer-ish outing if they struggle.

An interesting scenario: what if Stroman or Happ struggle or any get injured in the 2nd half. Do we pull Sanchez in for spot starts? Of course we want to preserve the golden arm for the future, but there's 24 other guys in the clubhouse that want to win THIS year!

 

[ultistar]

Poor overworked Russ Martin. Division 2 college ball equivalent Thole (or whatever his name is) is not the proper backup answer. I consider that backup role a serious trade deadline (or sooner) concern.

Just saying....

Philip

Martin is projected to play 120 games. It's a decent number for the 1st string catcher making $15mil this year and $20 next 3.

But he is 33 yo with a lot of mileage in those legs. At least Thole is cheap.

 

[AK-47]

LOL @ Scott Diamond.

He throws an 88 mph fastball. Major League hitters take batting practice off that. I wasn't really sure what I was watching.

He might wanna work on a knuckleball or something

 

[busterhut]

LOL @ Scott Diamond.

He throws an 88 mph fastball. Major League hitters take batting practice off that. I wasn't really sure what I was watching.

He might wanna work on a knuckleball or something

From the guy who you say knows nothing.

How hard does Estrada usually throw? How hard did Buehrle throw? I guess now we know why Buehrle had such a short, ineffective career. Just sayin'

 

[busterhut]

True story: I called in drunk once and they put me on the air

I believe. Now, tell me you called in sober once and I would never believe it.

 

[Dawgger]

From the guy who you says knows nothing.

How hard does Estrada usually throw? How hard did Buehrle throw? I guess now we know why Buehrle had such a short, ineffective career. Just sayin'

Busterne would hope there is a lot of sarcasm in your post! Diamond should not be included any thing referencing the other two gentlemen. One of them is currently one of the best pitchers in the game and the other was an excellent pitcher a great team mate and all around great person. I would love to see the Jays offer him a position, that would permit him to be with the team from time to time and counsel the pitching staff.

 

[black booty lover]

I wrote a few weeks back, I think they will let Sanchez start until the AS break and then evaluate. That should be about 125 innings. Then he may rack up another 35IP from the bullpen for a total of 160IP.
There's some theory that says pitchers should increase by no more than 20% of their previous high. Sanchez's high was 133 a few years back. So 20% more is almost exactly 160IP.

Stroman's career high is 166 IP, so his 20% increased limit is 200 IP.
Happ's career high is 172 IP, so his number is 208 IP.
Dickey and Estrada should get to 200+ IP easily.

DHutch and/or Chavez should give us enough decent starts from the 5 spot to keep us going in the 2nd half.
I can see Jays giving Sanchez the day off before DHutch/Chavez starts in prep for a longer-ish outing if they struggle.

An interesting scenario: what if Stroman or Happ struggle or any get injured in the 2nd half. Do we pull Sanchez in for spot starts? Of course we want to preserve the golden arm for the future, but there's 24 other guys in the clubhouse that want to win THIS year!

hard to say seeing as a few weeks ago, they all (Shaprio, Atkins and Gibby) were saying things like, "there's no pitch limit, were just going to wait and see. They even basically said, everyone's body is different. Some rookie's can pitch a whole season, while others need to be shut down. We're just wait and see". So who knows what there plan is.

 

[AK-47]

From the guy who you say knows nothing.

How hard does Estrada usually throw? How hard did Buehrle throw? I guess now we know why Buehrle had such a short, ineffective career. Just sayin'

Like Dawgger basically said, if you're gonna be an 88 mph finesse pitcher you had better have pinpoint control, and a good mix of pitches. Diamond unfortunately has neither

I believe. Now, tell me you called in sober once and I would never believe it

I LOL'ed :happy:

 

[Nad Smith]

Diamond's call up was basically for a Canadian cup of coffee. His AAA record was below average. There was a relatively meaningless inning for him to work on Monday, and he started with 2 straight strikes and then couldn't throw one..and then they had him timed. It reminded me a bit of Boyd last year...and he is still a ? mark.

Soft throwing lefties can find a niche, but he has a long way to go. Whatever happened to Jeff Francis? or how about Denis boucher?

I expect Hutch to be called up and start Friday in Baltimore.....any bets?

 

[Dawgger]

former Jay, Jose Reyes, designated for assignment. He is owed approximately 34 million U.S. dollars. Rockies look to be on the hook for his salary.

 

[Dawgger]

Diamond's call up was basically for a Canadian cup of coffee. His AAA record was below average. There was a relatively meaningless inning for him to work on Monday, and he started with 2 straight strikes and then couldn't throw one..and then they had him timed.

so you are saying he was called up because he is Canadian, that doesn't make much sense. I would hope someone on the brain trust saw something that made them think he could get the job done. Having watched his effort I have no idea what that something may have been. If you are Gibbons you have to wonder why they send you guys that aren't close to major league quality.