Blue Jays: 2016 Edition

Insidious Von

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It happens to the best of teams, they ripped a huge one in Detroit.

You could almost see it coming, they've played the majority of their away games in American League East parks, they weren't ready for Comerica. Now lets hope it's just a one off, I have faith in Sancho.
 

Butler1000

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mandrill

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Was reading that article. Seem to remember a few saying it was a mistake trading Hendricks and letting Lowe go. As well Revere.

About the only trade that doesn't work at this time is the Dickey one. Even then Dickey has eaten a lot of innings for us. Something we wouldn't have had the last few years.
I would have kept Lowe as well. Mea Culpa.

Just goes to show that baseball is the least predictable sport.
 

Dartman

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I would trade Storen back for Revere, After saying that has there ever been a trade where you trade the same players back to there former team, I know team have traded for the same player back but I mean the same trade to the team back same players. Would be interested know ing that
 

smitherz

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I would trade Storen back for Revere, After saying that has there ever been a trade where you trade the same players back to there former team, I know team have traded for the same player back but I mean the same trade to the team back same players. Would be interested know ing that
I don't think it's ever happened before.

The Jays once traded Johnny Mac to the Tigers for a player to be named later .
that player turned out to be Johnny Mac , he was sent back to the Jays at the end of the season.

Dave Winfield was once traded for a steak dinner. True story LOL
 

AK-47

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What a stinker tonight. Nothing working.
I'll focus most of my distain for Martin. 3 passed balls (actually 4 PB but the scorer was generous with a wild pitch). Hasn't thrown out a base runner in a month (after leading the league in putouts last year).
More than his slumping offence, the deterioration on defence is more concerning. Many ageing catchers convert to DH or 1B if they hit well enough but the Jays have a surplus of players who may play these positions as they age; JB, EE, Smoak, and whenever JD or Tulo get injured.
And he is due $75 mil over the next 4 years. What a mess.
And another baserunning mistake by Martin costing us a possible run
 

mandrill

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Given how dominant the pitchers are tonight, you have to wonder if the strike zone is screwy or very large.
 

SkyRider

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Our lack of hitting with men on base is embarrassing. Good thing Sanchez pitching shutout.

Update: We just wasted a great 8 innings by Sanchez. Useless offense with men on base.
 

saxon

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What a waste, 11 men left on base thru 9 innings. We'll probably blow this one in extra innings.
 

AK-47

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I blame the offense more than I blame the pen.

This game shouldve been at least 6 or 7-0 win for Jays
 

AK-47

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This absolutely was on our so called big bats tonight. Runners on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out, JB strikes out, JD's walks to make them full, EE strikes out, and Martin flies out
I'm sorry but at the very least our hitting coach Brook Jacoby needs to go, and I have to say Gibby as well.
We're never gonna win a world series so long as he's in charge.

Firing Gibby was brought up on a radio call-in show, and Mike Wilner said he didnt think it was a good idea because Gibby was well liked in the clubhouse. Really, this is how we judge managers now, by how well he's liked??!! I always though W/L results was the first decider (or ought to be anyways) :rolleyes:
 

black booty lover

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JB, EE on the decline. Their best years are behind them. Ahead only decay. Sorry to be so blunt but that is a clinical analysis.
I don't think either of these boys are going to get the big contracts they seek. I think they'll get decent ones, but probably not what they're looking for.
 

shack

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I'm sorry but at the very least our hitting coach Brook Jacoby needs to go,
What is he doing differently than last year, when the offense was amazing?

Jays win 5 series in a row and get to within about 3 games, down from about 8 games out and it seems the team is starting to find itself.

Now there are two losses in a row :fear: and heads must roll.

You guys are something else.:frusty:
 

AK-47

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What is he doing differently than last year, when the offense was amazing?

Jays win 5 series in a row and get to within about 3 games, down from about 8 games out and it seems the team is starting to find itself.

Now there are two losses in a row :fear: and heads must roll.

You guys are something else.:frusty:
Take a valium, shacky.

I have never been big on Gibby. We're not gonna win a world series with him.
AFA Jacoby is concerned its a case of what have you done for me lately??
A good batting coach should be able to pull his team out of a batting slump.

All I see Jays doing is not executing bunts or moving runners up.
They are constantly swinging for the fences when they should be looking to just poke the ball opposite field or up the middle for a single.

This is on Gibby and also on Jacoby.
They need to be stronger and give their players shit when they dont play fundamental baseball

1 o'clock start today BTW
 

busterhut

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Take a valium, shacky.

This is on Gibby and also on Jacoby.
1 o'clock start today BTW
So if they start winning and win the division and eventually the WS than obviously that would be because of Gibby and Jacoby?

AK you should give Jacoby a call and tell him to stop telling JB and EE and others to have poor at bats trying to hit balls out of the park when all they need is a solid at bat. Maybe he doesn't know. Or maybe the players aren't playing well and no amount of coaching would help. Tell me about the last time a coach pulled a team out of a batting slump? I can't recall although I'm sure it happens often because most teams have slumps.
It's not the coaches it's the players. Period. Do you think the Detroit hitting coach should get credit because Cabrera did what we all were pretty sure he would do? Yeah, probably.
 
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