Men who haggle about price ...

[doggystyle99]

I won't mention any names, because that would not be fair, but I just finished a series of pm's with a member who thinks I should adjust my prices to fit his budget because .... "that's my budget". This is an ongoing issue that I thought I would voice.

This member and I have joked and flirted on the board before, and after after looking on my website, he pm'd me and asked me if I would see him for $40. less than my hh rate. Fair enough to ask, but I politely told him I was fairly busy with the rates as they were and declined his offer. He wrote back a few more times saying "... so, you won't see me?" I finally said, if you truly can't afford it, that is okay, but if you just don't think I'm worth it and want a discount - that is just cheap and insulting. I gave him a chance to rephrase his request in a respectful way - but he just wrote back "...that's my budget."

Thoughts Ladies, members??

I personally set a limit on what I would pay for services to SP's a while back, I can pay more than the set amount I have set for myself but I figured this is a good way for me to not hobby too much and to not spend too much time in the hobbying world. I would never message any SP and ask them to reduce the rate they were charging if I already know what their rate was. Even if I didn't know what her rate was and she had informed me and it was over what I felt comfortable spending I would politely say it was higher than what I expected and move on to the next SP.

Even if an SP tells me she would reduce her rate so I can see her I would politely decline as well (and have done so in the past), because I would never want to see an SP who provides me services that they thought should be valued at a higher amount, because somehow it would affect the session.

Now if this is for a longer session more than 2 hours then I always have a number in mind that I let SP's know what it is, and majority of the time I would say 90-95% of the time we would reach an agreement.

 

[Top Drawer]

The intimacy of a woman is a priceless gift in our industry that is bought and sold
But its value is far greater than a mountain made of gold
For gold is cold and lifeless it can neither see nor hear
In times of loneliness is powerless to be there, it has no arms to hold you, no heart to understand
It cannot bring you comfort or make you feel like a man,
And so when you seek intimacy, be thankful at the days end if you ended up with a woman and not your right hand… LOL

I initially wanted to change the word “woman” to “Top Drawer Lady” but I thought naa… I’ll dedicate this to all the ladies…

I’m sure there are many places we spend our money and we don’t bargain… why shouldn’t a good service provider be one of them?

Don
TDL

 

[Scarey]

$300.00 seems to be the "norm" here.Correct?.Subconsciously, I break down girls into two sections.Avenue or Agency.Take away the internet....no more internet.Would this girl get picked up by an agency like back in the day or would she be hitting the streets? I've noticed a lot more "Avenue" girls asking 3 bills and getting it then ever before.Guys are paying for a fantasy.I'm astounded by what some guys will pay 3 bills for and call the session their fantasy girl.Different strokes for different folks I guess.....the internet has definitely leveled the playing field.

 

[doggystyle99]

People haggling about prices are not just exclusive to this industry I have noticed that my sales staff are asked for discounts quite often these days, and a lot of the new business that we acquire as a company (about 90-95%) who are looking for our professional services are haggling over our prices. Some of these clients are a part of large corporations, I usually assess these situations on a case by case and rate the potential of their loyalty as a customer if I feel they are going to be a long time customer and would also refer my services to others I give them a deal that I feel comfortable with and we are still turning a profit just not as much of a profit margin, if I don't feel that they would be a long time customer then I politely tell them that those are our company prices, some are willing to pay our prices even after haggling and some are not which I am fine with as I already have a large base of clients that I have to accommodate.

So it's not just in this industry.

BTW not haggling about price with SP's has only happened to me in Canada. Other places where its normal to haggle about prices that I have hobbied are Las Vegas, Miami, Cuba, Mexico, Morocco, pretty much all of Europe even the brothels. Some of those places you'd be stupid not to haggle as majority of SP's know its the norm and over value their services so by the time they haggle its down to what their expectations are.

 

[JakeGrvn]

Speaking of budget.... I recall a thread where it was mentioned by another PAID advertiser here that you should be paying Fred for all this advertising your getting with a red handle!

Ziri, there are always 'haters' - like Sal on every board. Disregard them.
I have never seen you post your website (which is easy for anyone to find on Google) or phone #, or blatantly promoted your services here - so, that is not advertising - it's participating with threads that people like to read. If this was going on for months and months, it would be a different story. Welcome to the board, my dear and keep posting!

xo

Jake

 

[asuran]

LOL Some guys fail to see that. The SP is already going into the date with the feeling that you don't think she's worth her rate. It's not necessarily intentional but on a subconscious level, it can affect the SP and the 'chemistry'.

While on the other hand, if guy bring a little something extra as a surprise, the chemistry may get a little spike upwards. :wink:

 

[Titalian]

I won't mention any names, because that would not be fair, but I just finished a series of pm's with a member who thinks I should adjust my prices to fit his budget because .... "that's my budget". This is an ongoing issue that I thought I would voice.

This member and I have joked and flirted on the board before, and after after looking on my website, he pm'd me and asked me if I would see him for $40. less than my hh rate. Fair enough to ask, but I politely told him I was fairly busy with the rates as they were and declined his offer. He wrote back a few more times saying "... so, you won't see me?" I finally said, if you truly can't afford it, that is okay, but if you just don't think I'm worth it and want a discount - that is just cheap and insulting. I gave him a chance to rephrase his request in a respectful way - but he just wrote back "...that's my budget."

Thoughts Ladies, members??

Nice ad Ziri. And on the other board too.

 

[Sal1979]

Ziri, there are always 'haters' - like Sal on every board. Disregard them.
I have never seen you post your website (which is easy for anyone to find on Google) or phone #, or blatantly promoted your services here - so, that is not advertising - it's participating with threads that people like to read. If this was going on for months and months, it would be a different story. Welcome to the board, my dear and keep posting!

xo

Jake

Okay there Jake or should I call you.....Sara or Ziri ... Hmmmm 9 comments of your 22 post history is about either Oriental Sara or Oriental Ziri with links attached to either her website or you've added "valuable" comments to thread she's has started and helped promote her.....

Smells like a second account SHILL handle to me, I'll be back shortly to compare note and see if you're also helping SHILL her over on the other blue board too, which I'm sure you have multiple handles there also.

I've noticed a few other ladies recently without the Blue Handle on here and personally I think it's wrong. The reason is because when they chime in on a thread I now know that I can automatically PM them and schedule a appointment with them and they've all recently replied back to me via PM, as where I could do the exact same with the SP's in Blue.

It's not fair to the PAID advertisers, and most importantly it's not fair to FRED who runs this site and makes a living off of the PAID advertiser and takes all the risk so we terbies can make sure we're not getting ripped off.

Moral of the story, you are an escort and are here on this board you should be a PAID member, no excuses regardless of how well your reviews are, and this goes for all the SP's and MPA's period!

 

[ultistar]

.Different strokes for different folks I guess.....the internet has definitely leveled the playing field.

This has definitely created a very efficient market. Before the industry went on the interweb, I paid ridiculous amounts for crappy, hit and miss experiences.
Girls can charge whatever they want. Guys can choose to whomever they want based on their finances. That's the market.
Haggling is dumb.

EDIT: and I also think O Ziri should become paid advertiser. Complaining about hagglers while not paying for ads is hypocrisy.

 

[LisbethNova]

This has definitely created a very efficient market. Before the industry went on the interweb, I paid ridiculous amounts for crappy, hit and miss experiences.
Girls can charge whatever they want. Guys can choose to whomever they want based on their finances. That's the market.
Haggling is dumb.

Thank you! I totally agree! I will always go the extra mile for those who don't bother me about the price.. I received an email lately from a guy who told me my prices were steep and maybe we can negotiate... Uhhh... talk about ruining my mojo.. I didn't even respond!

 

[rhuarc29]

Its like going to supper with any lady and in the end asking her if she can split the bill with you.

Haha, it's the modern age; she should split the bill with you.

But it's relationship suicide to ask her to pay her share because of outdated norms. So any guy in their right mind just keeps his mouth shut and pays up. In all my first dates, whether I've asked her out or she's asked me out, I've rarely heard her offer to pay half the bill. Most just quietly accept that I'll cover it (which I do). But the few who do offer are always the ones I want to get to know better. It shows they don't ride other people's coattails and are responsible for themselves; that I can respect. Relationships need respect, no?

 

[Buick Mackane]

Imagine before heading to the office each morning you got a call from the boss. He asks if you'll come to work for a lower rate in pay, just a few dollars less because that's all they feel you're worth or all they can afford.
You got this call every day.
Would you say it's reasonable, part of being in a free capitalist system?

 

[rhuarc29]

Imagine before heading to the office each morning you got a call from the boss. He asks if you'll come to work for a lower rate in pay, just a few dollars less because that's all they feel you're worth or all they can afford.
You got this call every day.
Would you say it's reasonable, part of being in a free capitalist system?

That's a piss poor analogy. A better one would be negotiating your wage prior to being hired.

 

[Titalian]

Haha, it's the modern age; she should split the bill with you.

But it's relationship suicide to ask her to pay her share because of outdated norms. So any guy in their right mind just keeps his mouth shut and pays up. In all my first dates, whether I've asked her out or she's asked me out, I've rarely heard her offer to pay half the bill. Most just quietly accept that I'll cover it (which I do). But the few who do offer are always the ones I want to get to know better. It shows they don't ride other people's coattails and are responsible for themselves; that I can respect. Relationships need respect, no?

Yes your right, it does say a lot, when they offer.

 

[fuji]

Haggling is stupid, what sort of experience are you going to get after trying to bargain?

It is a competitive market, an SP who overcharges will face pressure to lower her prices just from competition, no need to argue with her. See somebody else until she figures it out on her own. If she is getting adequate bookings at her rate, more power to her.

 

[Titalian]

Haggling is stupid, what sort of experience are you going to get after trying to bargain?

Yes, it is ignorant, When you do this, you set the Bar.

 

[Buick Mackane]

That's a piss poor analogy. A better one would be negotiating your wage prior to being hired.

No, it's a good analogy.
Escort prices are determined beforehand on their sites, some feel they can get a lower rate.

Your wage is finalized beforehand as well, it's just as disrespectful if your boss phoned you in the morning and asked if you'll take a reduction in pay for that day.

 

[rhuarc29]

No, it's a good analogy.
Escort prices are determined beforehand, some feel they can get a lower rate.

Your wage is finalized beforehand as well, it's just as disrespectful if your boss phoned you in the morning and asked if you'll take a reduction in pay for that day.

Still a flawed analogy. At one point or several you've negotiated your rate with your boss. Your boss may post a position with what he feels is an appropriate wage, yet if you're better qualified you can rationalize a higher one. On the flip side, you may be under-qualified and willing to take a lower salary simply for the opportunity. It will also depend on other factors, like the importance of the job, the employer's budget for the position, etc. It's never just an issue of your own worth.

There hasn't been a single instance where I've gotten a job without negotiating salary. I suppose you could say the rate was finalized beforehand by the employer because he/she had some figure in their head, but I'm not sure "finalized" would be the appropriate word there. Even once a salary is determined, it is revisited throughout the years.

Not only that, but in the case of an employer/employee relationship, the employer is hiring your skills to make himself money. That's a completely different scenario from a client hiring an escort's services for personal enjoyment.

 

[Titalian]

Its pretty normal think for some guys from different cultures to try to negotiate
prices,its part of their DNA,generally from BP.

Yes and that's because they look at you as a commodity.

 

[andydude]

thats pretty pathetic. every now and then i try and get a better rate on longer sessions (1.5+hr dates) and generally i believe in the motto that if you dont ask you dont get, but $40/hh seems ridiculous (and im not sure what your hh rate is but) i dont think theres alot of room for negotiation. hit ignore!