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rhuarc29

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Haggling sounds like nickel and diming.

I prefer the word, negotiating, especially when ask rates are unreasonably high.
Haggling, negotiating, bartering...it doesn't really matter what you call it. It's the same thing. I still don't get why people are so hung up on it.

Why do people view it as a one-sided issue? Remember, the person seeking services earned that money in the first place. They have to balance their own worth against the worth of those services. It's not just about the worth of the provider. I've never personally asked a provider for cheaper rates; I usually go with someone where the value seems right...where the hours I put in to make X amount of money equals the quality of her service. But even though I don't haggle, I don't particularly see an issue with it, so long as it is done politely and the answer is accepted with grace. Being insulted by negotiating a price is ridiculous IMO, because it doesn't necessarily say anything about you're own worth or the quality of your service.

In the OP's case, nothing was wrong with the equation until the person in question persisted after receiving a "no".
 

Meister

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Haggling, negotiating, bartering...it doesn't really matter what you call it. It's the same thing. I still don't get why people are so hung up on it.

Why do people view it as a one-sided issue? Remember, the person seeking services earned that money in the first place. They have to balance their own worth against the worth of those services. It's not just about the worth of the provider. I've never personally asked a provider for cheaper rates; I usually go with someone where the value seems right...where the hours I put in to make X amount of money equals the quality of her service. But even though I don't haggle, I don't particularly see an issue with it, so long as it is done politely and the answer is accepted with grace. Being insulted by negotiating a price is ridiculous IMO, because it doesn't necessarily say anything about you're own worth or the quality of your service.

In the OP's case, nothing was wrong with the equation until the person in question persisted after receiving a "no".
Good view.

I would also add that sometimes we are looking for certain things. For example just a BJ or just 15 minutes or just whatever.
If the SP doesn't offer that then so be it, just say so.
Many SPs don't have a problem charging extra for Greek or for DFK or for cim.... so at the same time it should not be an issue to ask how much less it is without FS and just a bj. Again you can just accept or decline.

Come on girls, don't be such princesses. You are running a business without taxes making a ton of cash that on a per hour basis only high priced lawyers make. It's normal to expect some people trying to get a better rate.
 

DB123

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I thought that too until I started. I charge 300/hr and see 1-3 people and my expenses are from 300+ a day, and then there's photos, monthly paid ads, cell phone, taxis, intimate supplies, toiletries for clients, expensive makeup (the cheaper stuff runs), the alcohol for the mini-bar I bring to my incall, a constant rotation of lingerie, my website(wasn't cheap as I made it myself), google SEO, the time you take out of your day to work on communicating with clients and potential clients even when not "on the clock"....

And I only have time to work a day or two a week due to school. So it looks like a lot but isn't really; at least for me. I mean, it does rent, and bills. And allows me to save up waaay more for tuition then it did when I was working 40 hrs a week at a coffee shop and a cashier at a grocery store...but it ain't easy. Just different. But the rates girls charge are premium for a reason.

I mean; I could charge less and see more men and stay in crappy hotels and motels but then I would not be happy nor healthy. I chose to see less clients that I adore spending time with and that respect my body and make far less cash; but feel mentally and physically stable.

I get a ton of phone calls but I reject the majourity in order to focus on quality clients that I connect with and it allows me to give them quality service.

But; that is just me; some women can handle and excel with tons of visits a day - everyone is different!:)
And that is good; if every SP and every client were the same then there wouldn't be any business for anyone.

Kudos to diversity xxo
Excellent post. :)

Something a lot of us as guys rarely think about.
 

GPIDEAL

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Haggling, negotiating, bartering...it doesn't really matter what you call it. It's the same thing. I still don't get why people are so hung up on it.

Why do people view it as a one-sided issue? Remember, the person seeking services earned that money in the first place. They have to balance their own worth against the worth of those services. It's not just about the worth of the provider. I've never personally asked a provider for cheaper rates; I usually go with someone where the value seems right...where the hours I put in to make X amount of money equals the quality of her service. But even though I don't haggle, I don't particularly see an issue with it, so long as it is done politely and the answer is accepted with grace. Being insulted by negotiating a price is ridiculous IMO, because it doesn't necessarily say anything about you're own worth or the quality of your service.

In the OP's case, nothing was wrong with the equation until the person in question persisted after receiving a "no".
Haggle is what a guy like George Costanza does, lol.


hag·gle
ˈhaɡəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: haggling
dispute or bargain persistently, especially over the cost of something.
"the two sides are haggling over television rights"


Nothing wrong with discussing terms though.
 

Titalian

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If she doesn't stipulate a hhr rate on her website and you can't afford her hour rate. You might want to ask her if she does offer a hhr session. You'd be surprised to know, that many do.
 

GPIDEAL

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To be fair, haggle is in the thread title. :D

Next time my SO asks where I'm going I'll tell her I'm going out to haggle.
Okay but it sounds 'cheap' lol.

Like Titalian says, it can ruin the mood, especially if an SP's website says that they do their rates are non-negotiable (although if an overnight rate is not listed, it's fair to ask or negotiate about that).
 

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I have never haggled about price on seeing anyone, they tell me how much they charge and I pay or don't see them. I don't think that there is anything wrong with it but I don't feel comfortable with doing it. There are many who have quoted me a price and I say yeah or nay, some even rebut with a new price but that is up to them. I would rather have someone feeling better about it so there is no lack of service or be a dead fish due to having their feelings hurt.
 

VIPhunter

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Haggle is what a guy like George Costanza does, lol.


hag·gle
ˈhaɡəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: haggling
dispute or bargain persistently, especially over the cost of something.
"the two sides are haggling over television rights"


Nothing wrong with discussing terms though.
Terms, huh?


like net 60 days?


:)

We all get asked for our best price. If your posted rate is that, then suggest to the dude he move on. But taking offence? Nonsense.

BTW SPs are not the only ones with expenses. Such is life. When we're super busy, I have no reason to discount. If we're slow, it might make sense. Simple.
 

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We live in a different world, these days. If I could predict my free time, I'd be starting threads like " John available Sunday 4-8, submit offers"-followed by short list of preferences. I don't see why this transaction needs to be one way only.
 

VIPhunter

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We live in a different world, these days. If I could predict my free time, I'd be starting threads like " John available Sunday 4-8, submit offers"-followed by short list of preferences. I don't see why this transaction needs to be one way only.
^^ Right. Bid for my business!!! Just like every other industry...........If you don't want to bid, that's fine.

Actually quite brilliant jcpro. Quite brilliant indeed!
 

Mrbluntx

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here's the thing though, it seems that here at least on this board the prices seem fixed, granted that some (sps) are open to negotiating and most are not. But when you go to say a place like Las Vegas, it's all about haggling/negotiating a price for specific items on the menu. IMO, if SPs wanted to haggle about price their adds should stay $xxx (whatever their rate is) OBO (or best offer), otherwise just pay them their set amount or find another SP in your price range.
 

MissCroft

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Haggling makes my vagina dry.... THE END

LOL Some guys fail to see that. The SP is already going into the date with the feeling that you don't think she's worth her rate. It's not necessarily intentional but on a subconscious level, it can affect the SP and the 'chemistry'.
 

Olivia Gracexo

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Do you post a higher price because you expect to be haggled down, Olivia?
Believe it or not almost 50% of haggles aren't guys trying to get the price down,they are attempts at upgrading services
by offering more(sometimes a lot more) for very unsafe services.
 

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Most services and non-tangle product pricing has elasticity to it (so many joke opportunities here), you set your price, if you get a counter offer its not an insult. If you have to say no multiple times that's a clueless guy.
 

Titalian

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LOL Some guys fail to see that. The SP is already going into the date with the feeling that you don't think she's worth her rate. It's not necessarily intentional but on a subconscious level, it can affect the SP and the 'chemistry'.
Its like going to supper with any lady and in the end asking her if she can split the bill with you.
 
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