Of course it does. You don't think wanting your loved ones to immigrate to your country is not an immigration issue? You think the furor over immigration in the US indicated it has nothing to do with citizens, ...also, what special needs program are you in?
Amnesty International - Gaza Strikes a war crime
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Is the war the reason for the ethnic cleansing or is the ethic cleansing the reason for the war. Show me some evidence that Israel encourages arab citizenship. I have not heard of such a thing, but I am open to being proved wrong. Israel has refused an serious discussion on compensation or right or return in any peace negotiations. THAT is a fact.Yes we know. The reason is many major Palestinian parties don't want Jews in the Middle East (at least with any rights)
Again, you describe the Palestinians being at war with Israel. The reason why West Bank or Gaza Palestinians can't easily immigrate is that conflict, not race.
You also have no idea what apartheid means. The fact that Israel actively encourages some Arabs to become citizens blows your racial theory out of the water.
The attempted ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region since before 1920 is the reason for the war. I know you'd prefer it if the Jews allowed it and groups like ISIS took over but instead they have developed the most open and rights respecting country in the region and don't plan to leave. As soon as the hate driven Palestinian factions give up on their genocide, Israel will become even better and the Palestinians will have the choice to create their own state as they wish (with whatever immigration policy they want).Is the war the reason for the ethnic cleansing or is the ethic cleansing the reason for the war. Show me some evidence that Israel encourages arab citizenship. I have not heard of such a thing, but I am open to being proved wrong. Israel has refused an serious discussion on compensation or right or return in any peace negotiations. THAT is a fact.
As for Israel's policies encouraging Arab citizenship, if you are truly interested in facts you can STFU (but we know you won't)
http://972mag.com/quietly-east-jerusalem-palestinians-are-becoming-israeli-citizens/46298/
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3407/palestinians-israeli-citizenship
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/palestinians_applying_for_israeli_citizenship_in_droves/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4418234,00.html
The Arabs waged war on the Jews and lost.
I guess it sucks to wage war and then lose. But I'm afraid that's not the definition of "ethnic cleansing."
I guess it sucks to wage war and then lose. But I'm afraid that's not the definition of "ethnic cleansing."
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Sorry but there is no country on earth that bases their immigration policy on who a specific citizen wants to bring in, especially when they are coming from a country they are at war with.Of course it does. You don't think wanting your loved ones to immigrate to your country is not an immigration issue? ...
The attempted ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region since before 1920 is the reason for the war. I know you'd prefer it if the Jews allowed it and groups like ISIS took over but instead they have developed the most open and rights respecting country in the region and don't plan to leave. As soon as the hate driven Palestinian factions give up on their genocide, Israel will become even better and the Palestinians will have the choice to create their own state as they wish (with whatever immigration policy they want).
As for Israel's policies encouraging Arab citizenship, if you are truly interested in facts you can STFU (but we know you won't)
http://972mag.com/quietly-east-jerusalem-palestinians-are-becoming-israeli-citizens/46298/
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3407/palestinians-israeli-citizenship
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/palestinians_applying_for_israeli_citizenship_in_droves/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4418234,00.html
Well the first link you included says they were pressured into applying for Israeli citizenship and are under constant threat if they do not take it. But still it is only 10,000. While I don't like the pressure tactics Israel is using to get people to apply, I think in the longer run it does both sides well and could lead to the 1 state solution I feel is the only durable peace option for this land. I still do not see equality of rights for arab citizens though.
Many countries have family reunification policies in their immigration law. You are full of shit. I came to Canada sponsored by a family member.Sorry but there is no country on earth that bases their immigration policy on who a specific citizen wants to bring in, especially when they are coming from a country they are at war with.
Do you understand the meaning of the first word in your post?Many....
Add to the fact that many Palestinians see themselves as at war with Israel...
So once again, you are proven wrong yet that does not dissuade you from your idiocy.Well the first link....
As for your desire for a one state peace, considering both the Palestinians and Israelis are overwhelmingly opposed...
If I was pushed of my land and robbed of my birthright, I would be at war as well. I am sure most Jews were not too fond of Germany during the holocaust.....but now see it in a more positive light since Germany has made many gestures to acknowledge and atone for its crimes. By allowing Palestinians who WANT peace, and don't want to be Israeli citizens to immigrate, Israel would gradually diffuse tensions and hatred. But of course most Israelis are like you and too stupid to understand this.Do you understand the meaning of the first word in your post?
Add to the fact that many Palestinians see themselves as at war with Israel...
If you read history...If I was pushed of my land and robbed of my birthright, I would be at war as well. I am sure most Jews were not too fond of Germany during the holocaust.....but now see it in a more positive light since Germany has made many gestures to acknowledge and atone for its crimes.
All you do is make excuses. (I'm sure the Jews chased off their land in the 1920's, '30's, and 40's and suffering frequent attacks for 100 years because they are Jews could feel the same way but they have focused instead on building a productive society).
Israel is well within it's rights to deny immigration to people bent on Israel's destruction.
And if the Palestinians ever want their own state (that they could have had in 1949 if they were willing to accept it) all they have to do is stop trying to destroy Israel.
I am sure the first people on the land were agnostics.I'm just curious, which religion and people were in the region first?
I think this article probably provides a fair overview of events in the Palestine Mandate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine and as usual it shows you are spreading lies. It was the Jews who were pushing Palestinians of the land and not the other way around. After all, you admit there was Jewish immigration, was there any arab immigration? So then.. what was more likely to have happened?If you read history...
All you do is make excuses. (I'm sure the Jews chased off their land in the 1920's, '30's, and 40's and suffering frequent attacks for 100 years because they are Jews could feel the same way but they have focused instead on building a productive society).
Israel is well within it's rights to deny immigration to people bent on Israel's destruction.
And if the Palestinians ever want their own state (that they could have had in 1949 if they were willing to accept it) all they have to do is stop trying to destroy Israel.
Judaism is older by far, older than Christianity which happens to be older than Islam. If you go that route, Jews have a much older claim to the area than anyone.
Well then, let's see who can educate who here. Tell us, our little religious fanatic, when was the birth of Judaism?Judaism is older by far, older than Christianity which happens to be older than Islam. If you go that route, Jews have a much older claim to the area than anyone.
And if you want more fun facts, judaism originates from the area of Palestine and Islam from around Mecca, current day Saudi Arabia.
You should really try reading your own link as well as looking at the attacks on the ancient Jewish (non-zionist) communities in Hebron and Jerusalem in the early 20th century and you can actually get close to the truth instead of trying to pick a sentence out you think you like. Early in the page it talks about Jews trying to work with Arab leaders towards self government but instead the Arab leadership promoted violence.I think this article probably provides a fair overview of events in the Palestine Mandate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine and as usual it shows you are spreading lies. It was the Jews who were pushing Palestinians of the land and not the other way around. After all, you admit there was Jewish immigration, was there any arab immigration? So then.. what was more likely to have happened?
It then goes on to discuss the Arab revolt.wikipedia said:Samuel tried to establish self-governing institutions in Palestine, as required by the mandate, but was frustrated by the refusal of the Arab leadership to co-operate with any institution which included Jewish participation.[10] When Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Kamil al-Husayni died in March 1921, High Commissioner Samuel appointed his half-brother Mohammad Amin al-Husayni to the position. Amin al-Husayni, a member of the al-Husayni clan of Jerusalem, was an Arab nationalist and Muslim leader. As Grand Mufti, as well as the other influential positions that he held during this period, al-Husayni played a key role in violent opposition to Zionism.
I know you say having farmland and property destroyed and being chased from your land are justification for attacking civilians so what do you say about this little bit from your link?
I guess you now support the actions of the Jewish terrorist groups of that period.wikipedia said:During the summer of that year, thousands of Jewish-farmed acres and orchards were destroyed, Jewish civilians were attacked and killed, and some Jewish communities, such as those in Beisan and Acre, fled to safer areas.(Gilbert 1998, p. 80)
And of course when Jews legally bought land from the legal Arab owner, the previous tenants were usually told to leave.
And yes, there was massive Arab immigration as well during the Mandate period. The Arab population more than doubled during those 25 years which would be impossible from natural growth. Not too long ago I was reading about how the PA's lead negotiator's family moved from Saudi Arabia to Jordan and Palestine around the start of the 20th century. Seems he has no more right there than the Jewish immigrants.
In Saudi control, it is illegal for anyone but Muslims to go to Mecca. Under Israeli control, people of all religions visit Jerusalem and Israel has even ceded control over Judaism's holiest site in order to encourage peace with Arab nations.And if you want more fun facts, judaism originates from the area of Palestine and Islam from around Mecca, current day Saudi Arabia.
