Amnesty International - Gaza Strikes a war crime

gryfin

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Who the fuck cares if Israel (as a sovereign nation) chooses to have that as part of it's immigration policy?
Canada requires medical tests as part of it's immigration policy... again, who the fuck cares?
Ohh... right... the Jew-haters do.
If it doesn't make any difference then why don't you answer the question:

Can you find any other country on this planet that gives out automatic citizenship to members of one religion?
 

nottyboi

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Who the fuck cares if Israel (as a sovereign nation) chooses to have that as part of it's immigration policy?
Canada requires medical tests as part of it's immigration policy... again, who the fuck cares?
Ohh... right... the Jew-haters do.
You know who might care? Arab citizens of Israel who have relatives in Gaza and the West Bank who were driven out of Israel by Zionists.....also people who were fled Israel during war and had the door slammed behind them and their property confiscated....
 

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If it doesn't make any difference then why don't you answer the question:

Can you find any other country on this planet that gives out automatic citizenship to members of one religion?
If no one fucking cares, it does not matter if no other countries have the same policy.
How stupid can you be to not realize the fact that they have the absolute right to do that. If they wanted to ban redheads, that is their right... Canada doesn't admit terminally ill people as part of it's immigration policy. I don't answer my front door unless I am expecting a visitor. BIG FUCKING DEAL.
 

destillat

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You know who might care? Arab citizens of Israel who have relatives in Gaza and the West Bank who were driven out of Israel by Zionists.....also people who were fled Israel during war and had the door slammed behind them and their property confiscated....
Then THEY can follow Israel's immigration polices and if they qualify, they too can be granted citizenship. Easy Peasy, right?
 

nottyboi

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If no one fucking cares, it does not matter if no other countries have the same policy.
How stupid can you be to not realize the fact that they have the absolute right to do that. If they wanted to ban redheads, that is their right... Canada doesn't admit terminally ill people as part of it's immigration policy. I don't answer my front door unless I am expecting a visitor. BIG FUCKING DEAL.
Yeah no one cares that why Israel has such an idyllic and peaceful existence..... la la laaaaaa
 

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Yeah no one cares that why Israel has such an idyllic and peaceful existence..... la la laaaaaa
Ahhh... so the root of all problems Israel is because they grant automatic citizenship to Jews.
THAT is the answer right there to peace in the middle east.
You're a tool.
 

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I am not sure how the Israeli system works, but with Likud and home party still having more seats, can't they form the govt if they decide to form a coalition?
Do you know how reading works? The Labour/Hatuna Joint list having the largest number of seats means they would have first chance at forming the government.

Also pretty sad that you intentionally ignore Israeli support for pro-peace parties in your desire to portray Israel as evil.
 

basketcase

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Sure Jewish people can get automatic citizenship but Israel allows immigration of non-jews as well. Also a little over 20% of the population are Arabs.
Actually not automatic. Jews have been turned down.

And for Gryf, Israel actively encourages Arab residents of East Jerusalem and the Golan to become citizens.
 

basketcase

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You know who might care? Arab citizens of Israel who have relatives in Gaza and the West Bank who were driven out of Israel by Zionists.....also people who were fled Israel during war and had the door slammed behind them and their property confiscated....
You describe it as a war (when it suits you). Why the hell would any country allow immigration from countries they are at war with?
 

Moviefan-2

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Oops...we caught you being dishonest again.
Really? Here is what you said in post #3:

I bet the KKK would like to have Israel's immigration policy where they give automatic citizenship to some and not to others. That ranking of human value is shared between the KKK and Zionism.
Do you see what it says? You claimed that selective policies for citizenship were unique to Israel and akin to the values of the KKK. Nowhere in that post did you say that you were specifically referring to Israel's criteria.

When I pointed out the idiocy of post #3 and the fact that every democracy on the planet has selective citizenship policies, you tried to change the subject by pretending you were talking specifically about citizenship policies based on religion.

Every person who knows world history (and that clearly doesn't include you) understands the citizenship criteria used by Israel. Even if you don't agree with it, rational people would agree that the criteria are understandable and are not racist.

Your use of the phrase "supremacist leanings" is further proof that you are completely ignorant about world history.
 

basketcase

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Your use of the phrase "supremacist leanings" is further proof that you are completely ignorant about world history.
Not ignorant, just hateful. You can tell that every one of his posts here is Israel related. Nothing about escorts, strip clubs, or massage parlours. Judging by his posting history the only reason he ius hear is to get a hate on about Israel.
 

nottyboi

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You describe it as a war (when it suits you). Why the hell would any country allow immigration from countries they are at war with?
If you want peace, you discuss it as part if the post war peace agreement. If you are not serious about peace, then you make up rubbish statements like the one above.
 

nottyboi

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Ahhh... so the root of all problems Israel is because they grant automatic citizenship to Jews.
THAT is the answer right there to peace in the middle east.
You're a tool.
No that is not the reason. I know you are trying to be deliberately stupid on top of your god given natural talent. The problem is, Jews get automatic citizenship, while Arabs with relatives and verifiable ties to the land are denied and are not compensated for their losses. This is apartheid.
 

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Well considering Judaism is the older of the religions then they've been there longer, therefore have more of a historical tie to the land.
 

Moviefan-2

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...while Arabs with relatives and verifiable ties to the land are denied and are not compensated for their losses. This is apartheid.
I guess it sucks to be on the losing end of military battles. But I'm afraid that's not the definition of "apartheid."
 

nottyboi

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I guess it sucks to be on the losing end of military battles. But I'm afraid that's not the definition of "apartheid."
It is when you are treating your own citizens that way. I see you are finally coming to terms with the fact that ethnic cleansing has occurred here. Yes it always sucks to lose battles. But you know what, losing wars suck even more..... and the war will never be over for Israel until they lose...as long as they stay on this path.
 

Moviefan-2

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I see you are finally coming to terms with the fact that ethnic cleansing has occurred here.
Not quite.

What I have come to terms with is that some people set standards for Israel that don't apply anywhere else.

You think Israel should have to recognize the so-called "right of return" -- a "right" that has never been and would never be applied in any other country.

Similarly, Gryfin trash talks Israel for having citizenship policies that grant automatic citizenship "to some and not to others." Apparently, Gryfin believes every person who wants to be a citizen of Israel should automatically qualify -- a standard that exists nowhere else in the world.

By contrast, people who hold Israel to internationally accepted and realistic standards soon realize there is very little to criticize.
 

basketcase

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If you want peace, you discuss it as part if the post war peace agreement. If you are not serious about peace, then you make up rubbish statements like the one above.
holy complete lack of logic batman. You were complaining about CURRENT immigration policies and when busted jump to possibilities in FUTURE peace talks. Of course those future talks would involve Hamas actually accepting the concept of peace and attending those talks.
 

basketcase

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No that is not the reason.
Yes we know. The reason is many major Palestinian parties don't want Jews in the Middle East (at least with any rights)

The problem is, Jews get automatic citizenship, while Arabs with relatives and verifiable ties to the land are denied and are not compensated for their losses. This is apartheid.
Again, you describe the Palestinians being at war with Israel. The reason why West Bank or Gaza Palestinians can't easily immigrate is that conflict, not race.

You also have no idea what apartheid means. The fact that Israel actively encourages some Arabs to become citizens blows your racial theory out of the water.
 
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