Toronto Maple Leafs 2013/14 Season
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They are unhealthy for you.the Leafs, they are "like a box of chocolates ..."
Exactly what they said during the 2nd intermission. Much shorter leash on Reimer.For sure Carlyle would have pulled Reimer if he'd let in a stinker like Bernier just did.
For sure Carlyle would have pulled Reimer if he'd let in a stinker like Bernier just did.
No way Bernier has clearly distinguished himself as the number one goalie but that's the way they are treating him.
He pretty much laid an egg tonight. They should give him an assist on the second Islander goal. The way he cleared the puck tonight was house league!
Carlyle wants to establish Bernier as the no. 1 goalie and that's his prerogative being the coach. However, the disappointing part of it is that Bernier fails to grab the bull by its horns and continues to let in soft goals. This has opened the door for second guessing of the coach's decision. Puck handling is supposed to be his strength but he looked bad even in that part of his game. Nonis better makes darn sure Bernier has what it takes to be a No. 1 before he trades Reimer.For sure Carlyle would have pulled Reimer if he'd let in a stinker like Bernier just did.
No way Bernier has clearly distinguished himself as the number one goalie but that's the way they are treating him.
The positives of the game were the plays of Bozak and Kadri. I like the line of Lupul/Kadri/Raymond. Kessel and JVR better show up in the next Carolina game or they'll find themselves become the chasers of a playoff spot.
The Leafs are missing more grit. I wish that they resigned Komarov. He was one player that completed all his checks and didn't mind the physical play.I agree the game positives were Bozak and Kadri. Kessel also played with good jump. Bernier was certainly off tonight. JVR is still on Xmas holidays, thus killing the Kessel/JVR attack
The first period was wall played, the second was still a game. It was the third which the wheels fell apart.
After the phantom performance by JVR, I'd think to restore the line of Kessel/Bozak/Lupul . Atleast all three of those guys show up. That, or put Holland back with Lupul and Raymond.
Though Bernier had an outstanding first half, I'm one of the few who thought Toronto was already set with the duo of Reimer and Scrivens. I do wish Toronto still had Scrivens, Komarov and Mike Kostka in the roster. The club would be way under the cap, and much deeper IMO.
I sure would like to see the team play with more urgency and fast.
Komarov the Euro proved his grit & tenacity last year. But no, they had to pay more for Clarkson who is doing shit all. Go figure....
I am not ready to take a look at Carlyle, but it is on the 'to do' list if things do not improve.
When it comes to professional, well paid athletes I find it disgusting that they cannot play under any coach. If that is even the problem, I am not there yet.
Of course today you have to coddle these well paid pups further by making sure they have everything done for them and that they approve of the coach. BS, when you(pro athletes) cash that check at the bank every month that should be motivation enough to play under anybody.
NHL league minimum is $500,000 ... how do you compare ? I do not make a fifth of that, nor do I get summers off period, never mind the ability ($$) to go and do whatever I want in my spare time/ during summer.
It was frustrating watching the Isles take over in the third, as if they wanted it more, something that has been repeated during this skid.
Bernier has lost that early season shine. It is time to give Reimer another shot, more then one game in a row.
The injuries may have taken a toll earlier, that and to send a message/give a guy extra time maybe it is time to make one or two of, per game, JVR, Clarkson, Kadri, Raymond, etc, healthy scratches.
All that said ... after last season along with playing in the fish bowl that is Toronto some players may be trying too hard, trying to do more then the player is capable of during the injury plague earlier in the season.
I do not have any answers, not intending to point out the incredible obvious, I am not the coach or management but just a fan with an opinion.
When it comes to professional, well paid athletes I find it disgusting that they cannot play under any coach. If that is even the problem, I am not there yet.
Of course today you have to coddle these well paid pups further by making sure they have everything done for them and that they approve of the coach. BS, when you(pro athletes) cash that check at the bank every month that should be motivation enough to play under anybody.
NHL league minimum is $500,000 ... how do you compare ? I do not make a fifth of that, nor do I get summers off period, never mind the ability ($$) to go and do whatever I want in my spare time/ during summer.
It was frustrating watching the Isles take over in the third, as if they wanted it more, something that has been repeated during this skid.
Bernier has lost that early season shine. It is time to give Reimer another shot, more then one game in a row.
The injuries may have taken a toll earlier, that and to send a message/give a guy extra time maybe it is time to make one or two of, per game, JVR, Clarkson, Kadri, Raymond, etc, healthy scratches.
All that said ... after last season along with playing in the fish bowl that is Toronto some players may be trying too hard, trying to do more then the player is capable of during the injury plague earlier in the season.
I do not have any answers, not intending to point out the incredible obvious, I am not the coach or management but just a fan with an opinion.
For what they get paid, there is absolutely no excuse to take a night off (which means not trying your hardest).the tired one with a legit excuse to take the night off,?
This brings me to a related pet peeve where the players admit (though they don't realize it) that they just mail it in on many nights of the regular season.
When they start talking about how the playoffs games are more intense, and played at a higher speed and level, etc they are admitting that they play harder in the playoffs i.e. they do not try their hardest all season.
I understand more importance and hence more tension and excitement in the playoffs but it should not mean more effort. When we pay triple digit prices for tickets and they get an average of $2M/yr they should feel obligated to bust their butts on every shift, instead of waiting for the playoffs to turn it on. In original 6 days if they took nights off there were lots of good players waiting on the farm to take their place. Those regular season games were comparable to playoff games in terms of player intensity. And that's when they got paid peanuts.
I understood that. You may not play your best but it is not because you aren't trying your hardest under the circumstance.When I said taking a 'justified' night off, I was referring to more along the lines of having nothing in the tank at all.
I'm sure when making the line the bookies have already taken that into account.I'm betting the Leafs again tonight. The Canes aren't the same without Eric Staal in the lineup.
Canes are still favored -120. I like the Leafs as the underdogs.I'm sure when making the line the bookies have already taken that into account.
The key to a Leafs win is simple. If they get great goaltending they'll win. First start for Riemer (reportedly) since the cold stare he gave Carlyle after he was pulled 6 games ago. Was there a pay back from Carlyle ?They shouldn't be. On top of no Staal, I just read Toronto once again will face a backup.
I'm shocked Holland was sent down too. He was really looking good, and playing well on the 2nd. Maybe the team is trying to shop Kadri, maybe I have no clue and Holland wasn't worthy of staying up...
Either way, here's hoping for a solid 60min.
Holland is young and has some offensive skills, but he's s soft as marsh mellow and the Leafs have too many of those players. There's a reason why guys like him and Raymond were available to the Leafs without giving up much. Just wondering what's the scope with Fraser. Haven't seen him for a while, is he still injured or in Carlyle's dog house ? Now that we have Gleason, his future with the Leafs may be in jeopardy.
he,s useless plain and simple.The key to a Leafs win is simple. If they get great goaltending they'll win. First start for Riemer (reportedly) since the cold stare he gave Carlyle after he was pulled 6 games ago. Was there a pay back from Carlyle ?
Holland is young and has some offensive skills, but he's s soft as marsh mellow and the Leafs have too many of those players. There's a reason why guys like him and Raymond were available to the Leafs without giving up much. Just wondering what's the scope with Fraser. Haven't seen him for a while, is he still injured or in Carlyle's dog house ? Now that we have Gleason, his future with the Leafs may be in jeopardy.
Wow, 6-1. I forgot about the other Staal. 4 points for him tonight I believe. I've bet on the buds the last 3 games and have come up empty. I was going to pick them tomorrow night against the Caps in a parlay with the Broncos and the Patriots but I will have to think about that after tonight's performance.
