No but they talked about how it can make you aggressive and paranoid. If that's true, did TM have a propensity to be the antagonizer here?Having been high on lean in the past does not make one guilty of being on lean now.
No but they talked about how it can make you aggressive and paranoid. If that's true, did TM have a propensity to be the antagonizer here?Having been high on lean in the past does not make one guilty of being on lean now.
He was charged with assaulting a police officer but got the charges withdrawn by agreeing to enter an alcohol abuse program.The autopsy showed signs of liver damage in TM. They also said that use of lean can cause one to be paranoid and aggressive.
You mentioned hearsay against Zimmerman but that's also inadmissible. Do they have physical evidence supporting GZ's violent or drunk past?
This statement here proves who you have issued the blame for the assault to. The flip side to this is that TM attacked GZ. Didn't you just write that it's not known who started the fight?Zimmerman doesn't self-identify as white. He's Latino. An equal minority to black. No one is saying a "white" guy is exempt. We're saying a guy was attacked while doing nothing illegal and defended himself. Turn the tables: have Zimmerman followed by Martin, Zimmerman turn and attack Martin, Martin defend himself. Should Martin go to jail? No.
Latino is not a raceZimmerman doesn't self-identify as white. He's Latino. An equal minority to black. No one is saying a "white" guy is exempt. We're saying a guy was attacked while doing nothing illegal and defended himself. Turn the tables: have Zimmerman followed by Martin, Zimmerman turn and attack Martin, Martin defend himself. Should Martin go to jail? No.
That is the dumbest thing I have heard in this whole case I think. Zimmerman is as white as Obama is in that case.He is white Latino.......
He was charged with assaulting a police officer but got the charges withdrawn by agreeing to enter an alcohol abuse program.
I think that stands up pretty well against ramblings on social media.
It is a double standard to cite this stuff about Martin while objecting to it for Zimmerman. They are both equally (ir)relevant.
He did seem to have issues but pretty normal ones. Minor drug involvement, not a great attendance record at school, but not bad either. Sprayed some minor graffiti. All around a pretty ordinary kid (the real ordinary, that is, not from the Cleaver family).Yes Fuji BUT the report above criticizes how the narrative printed a picture of a racist Zimmerman vs. a happy and good boy, when that good boy also had character flaws if not issues.
(P.S. I tend to think that TM was more a good person than bad though).
So what? Did you or anyone ever watch him take lean? Maybe he was just boasting on an online forum (like I'm sure many people do)?They have his social media snapshots talking about lean.
Verstatile, I doubt he would be boasting online about it, but frankly, I don't care about the lean part. They said the autopsy report found liver damage which could be associated with ingestion of lean.So what? Did you or anyone ever watch him take lean? Maybe he was just boasting on an online forum (like I'm sure many people do)?
He did seem to have issues but pretty normal ones. Minor drug involvement, not a great attendance record at school, but not bad either. Sprayed some minor graffiti. All around a pretty ordinary kid (the real ordinary, that is, not from the Cleaver family).
No evidence of any gang involvement.
By the way, MMA is a very popular sport that lots of people get involved in.
I think people who are trying to make Zimmerman look like some kind of hero are stupid.
I remember a survey of highschool students where 70% of them claimed to have tried heroin. Kids brag about a lot of stuff they never did.Verstatile, I doubt he would be boasting online about it, but frankly, I don't care about the lean part. They said the autopsy report found liver damage which could be associated with ingestion of lean.
In any event, a sad thing.
The liver damage could have been associated with, well, liver disease. What's sad is people feel the need to shit all over this kid while trying to make GZ look like he's a saint.Verstatile, I doubt he would be boasting online about it, but frankly, I don't care about the lean part. They said the autopsy report found liver damage which could be associated with ingestion of lean.
In any event, a sad thing.
Why is it that people arguing about this case insist on leaving their own common sense out of it... eh Fuji?
The evidence at a trial is always like a bunch of dots in a puzzle... the dots are usually clear enough to see and understand, but "the trick" is to link them together to see the picture that they reveal... and you have to link all the dots, not just the ones that you like or prefer while leaving the others out.
In the linking of those dots a person is supposed to use reason, common sense, reasonable possibilities and probabilities, life experience as to how things happen, logic, etc.... unless, of course, s/he was present and actually witnessed the events.
What do you think is the most probable and/or most likely explanation, for example, of the dots "Arizona Watermelon drink," "Skittles," and his Internet posts about lean?
I am not saying that this is conclusive of what we can infer about this case, but if your common sense, experience and knowledge leads you to the conclusion (that is, linking the dots) that all that is mere coincidence, then I want to offer to sell you the George Washington Bridge: how much are you willing to pay?
Does any one think that TM's character is irrelevant to what may have been going on in his mind at the time? If he were a brilliant Harvard prodigy with an unblemished record and a history as a pacifist, would that mean anything to you in trying to figure out (link the dots) what may or most likely have happened?
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If there was a pre-existing disease, I think they would know as opposed to an external cause.The liver damage could have been associated with, well, liver disease. What's sad is people feel the need to shit all over this kid while trying to make GZ look like he's a saint.