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Nothing like a well read moron with a few words in his vocabulary to show how stupid he really is.
Pistorius, the blade runner, shot his girlfriend?
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My auto-babble translator is working today!
Nothing like a well read moron with a few words in his vocabulary to show how stupid he really is.
in the bail hearing the prosecution has to give disclosure, pre trial shit. I heard the detective was black in a news story...
Shoot, why must I state always state "tongue in cheek" or "kidding" or "sarcasm" for those slow on the uptake? Some people can't see a bit of dark humour when it hits them in the face.
In fairness the charges against Botha and the two others were initially dropped, but had been reinstated by the Director of Public Prosecutions but a week or so ago (but before the Steenkamp shooting). In North America of course you would have known and the police would have put him on either paid leave or desk duty - in South Africa, I don't know.Prosecutors said they were unaware of the 7 attempted murder charges against veteran detective Hilton Botha when they put him on the stand in court to explain why Pistorius should not be given bail in the Valentine’s Day shooting death of his girlfriend.
But not 300 yards away in a city. Maybe in the country. In the city, too much residual noise and intervening buildings.
All Pistorius has to do is raise a reasonable doubt. Even if you're suspicious, you still have to acquit. Even if you don't really believe he's telling the truth, if you think he just MIGHT be, you have to acquit. That's the law.
Yes, but many wealthy suburbs in South Africa are so sparsely populated it's just like being out in the country and due to the hot weather people leave windows open at night.
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My understanding was there was a hallway - I meant - he went down the hallway. I found a copy of the floor plans which is a little confusing - was she sot inside the toilet ? the space is so small - how could anyone make a mistake that stupid ?
I'm in a residential area and it is very quiet at 3 AM and I can hear things at a much greater distance. E.g.: There are busy train tracks ~ 1 mile (5 x this distance) and although I never hear it during the day - late at night and here the clicking sound of the railroad cars on the rails at night. The buildings could have caused echos which masked the number of shots witnesses heard.
Hang him !
I understand inside. That is one of the things that has been mentioned that he had to fire at a fairly sharp angle through the door. If he had fired straight on - he wouldn't have hit her at all.My understanding was there was a hallway - I meant - he went down the hallway. I found a copy of the floor plans which is a little confusing - was she sot outside the toilet door or inside ?
I thought from my experience of bathrooms - he shot through the door to the bathroom area but this layout has an open concept with the two doors - one to the shower and the other to the toilet cubical.
- If he was petrified with fear, why would he not station himself at the entrance to the hallway to the bathroom ?
- Why would you walk into the bathroom area where the armed assailant could ambush you by standing/ sitting adjacent to the double sinks ?
- If you were a dangerous felon, why would you closet yourself in a tight confined area where you have no chance of escape or seeing your opponent ?
- If Pistorius was yelling outside the door before he shot (I'm guessing that part is true) - why wouldn't the armed felon just unload on him first ?
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Steenkamp had fled into the toilet closet when an enraged Pistorius prevented her exit. It was the only place she could go for safety. Pistorius unable to get access to the toilet - retrieves his gun and further frustrated at Steenkamp's resolve to stay put - shoots her through the door.
This layout makes Pistorius's version just completely ridiculous.
Hang him !
We know that's the law. We got a great glimpse at how fucked the law can be sometimes during the O.J. trial where a murderer got off scott free.
This is now a game between lawyers. We all know Pisto is guilty but his lawyer is trying to win against the prosecutor by demonstrating reasonable doubt to the judge. Even Pisto's lawyer probably thinks he's guilty, but it's now a game to outsmart the other lawyer to get Pisto off free knowing full well his client is guilty. And we call that justice in a democratic society, how fucked is that?
Domestic murders are very difficult to prosecute as usually only two people are involved -- one is dead and can't talk, the other is alive and spins his (or her story) any which way.
Pistorius is telling a very simple story. He thought he heard a noise from the balcony, he assumed it was a burglar, he grabbed his gun and fired 4 shots into the bathroom because he feared for his miserable life.
Remember that RCMP officer whose his wife fell off their 20th storey balcony? He claims she willingly jumped in a successful suicide attempt. The police said he threw her off the balcony. Who do you believe? Then there is the Natalie Wood case. Did Robert Wagner throw her into the ocean?
If the defence's aggressive tactics are anything to go by, defence counsel probably thinks his client could well be telling the truth. Counsel never REALLY knows. Believe me, I've been there.
I wasn't in the jury room but based on media reports and circumstantial evidence seems like the right decision but he continues to protest his innocence. There has been too many wrongful murder convictions in Canada to have complete faith in the system (Truscott, Marshall, Milgaard, Morin and the list goes on).
I don't think that the RCMP guy - his name has slipped my semi-senile mind - was 1 of the possible wrongful convictions. I have some inside knowledge on that case which I cannot share.
I can appreciate in some cases defense lawyer's truly believe their client is innocent, but not in this case. Pisto's story about thinking it was a burglar and not noticing Reeva wasn't in bed and she not responding to his yelling for help, plus all this stupidity believing that a burglar in SA locks himself up in a toilet room because he was scared, lol, is utter nonsense. I got to get me the defense lawyer's as I have ocean front property for sale in Kansas.
"I" don't have to represent you, but you are entitled to a defence, regardless of whether "I" believe personally believe you "did it" or not.
